My grow season log - first bulk in years

[Livinlean]

Current cycle:
1000mg test blend
250mg tren ace
15mg MK677, might be time to up it to 30mg all taken pre bed.

Peptides eventually I will add:
Humalog 5-7iu pre workout but I don't want to do this too soon and will aim for a 4 week break off insulin (I have a long year ahead and need to be strict with my time off)
HGH 4iu. I will add this when I add my insulin back or slightly after and run it for majority of the year.
Lantus. Only if I want to pack on more size. Makes no sense adding this unless I am in a significant caloric surplus as I do feel I stay leaner with it included.

The next addition I am looking at currently is injectable superdrol 10-20mg pre workout. I have heard that it does not blunt appetite as much as the oral version and I will likely be adding this in the next week or two once the tren ace is kicking in fully. I should also add here that I have blood work in the next couple weeks here (doc said he will call me 8 weeks after my last one to schedule another) so I will only add the SD if everything comes back fine.

[Livinlean]

So I realized something, I am 22 weeks and 5 days out from my next possible show. If I start prep at 16 weeks out which I intend do, that leaves me 6 weeks and 5 days until the start of prep. I will need a break from the gear for at least 2-3 weeks and I may just take a week or two off from the gym. I say this because although my shoulders/traps feel a lot better, there are some positions that trigger a pain and I'd hate to prep while not 100%.

I'd still love to try out superdrol but Im not sure that's realistic considering I have about 3 weeks and 5 days left before I need to take some sort of a break and somewhere in between this time I need to get bloodwork to make sure everything is running fine.

I'll take it day by day and see how things go and will run my tren for another 3 weeks or so. I'd like to be at least 225lbs after this run with tren so I can sit at a decent spot to start prep. In previous years I have started in the 205-210 range and been considerably fatter.

[Livinlean]

I ended up dropping the Lantus last Wednesday so my last shot was last Tuesday. Also took a diet break and have been eating less food to give my body a bit of a break. After looking over my notes I realized that I have been blasting NPP for 9 weeks as of Monday and it seems like i've hit a plateau so it's time to make some changes. Monday was the start of tren ace with a lower cal diet (about 5000). The goal will be to tighten and harden up and become more athletic at this new size. Im not going for a "cut" as I feel like this will just result in a smaller structure so instead I will incorporate about 15 mins of cardio as well as higher intensity training with a 5k calorie diet.

Yesterday was my first day back on the diet at 100% and I haven't bothered to weigh myself in between, I will post an updated weight tomorrow. For now I'm in the gym logging my lifts so I can set up my log book and aim to beat it each week but this time its with higher intensity so my break time is strict at 90-120s as opposed to waiting much longer in an attempt to smash 1 - 3rep PRs. I will still attempt PRs but for the most part 3 rep minimum besides maybe deadlifts.

So far I have logged the following:
Chest: DB press 120x8, 130x4 (the low rest times really hit me hard)
Back: Deadlifts 405x4 465x2 (405 felt easy, 465 not so much). I started off with deadlifts and the 465 gave me an insane lower back pump. I was unable to lift heavy on my other standing movements so I had to resort to machines. Next time, I will either be dropping deadlifts or moving them to the end of my workout.

Today will be leg day and it looks like this:
Leg ext (warm up & stretch)
Leg curls (warm up & stretch)
Angled Hack squat (legs at bottom of platform and feet together for quad emphasis)
Upright hack squat facing front SS facing back (Standard squat foot placement)
Leg exts SS sissy squat
Leg press calf raises

[Livinlean]

AM weight: 221.6.

Expected weight to drop since its now almost been 2 weeks since I dropped my insulin and on Monday it will be 1 week since dropping NPP. Have not noticed anything on the strength side drop but that shouldn't last long if it happens anyways since I have tren A in me and it should kick in soon.

Today was chest and lats. The only lift I logged was DB flat bench 130 x 6. Everything else was accessory or machine on this day but of course it was still done heavy.

[Charlie67]

May I ask how much TrenA you're using per week? Just curious about the sides, if any.

I've only ran TrenE, because long esters just help my life out with far fewer injections. I get terrible insomnia on Tren, so I started TrenA in the cycle I'm starting today hoping that injecting less Tren every other day will help the insomnia some.

You're killing it man, I appreciate you sharing this log.

Best,
C-

[charger69]

May I ask how much TrenA you're using per week? Just curious about the sides, if any.

I've only ran TrenE, because long esters just help my life out with far fewer injections. I get terrible insomnia on Tren, so I started TrenA in the cycle I'm starting today hoping that injecting less Tren every other day will help the insomnia some.

You're killing it man, I appreciate you sharing this log.

Best,
C-

Don’t listen to Chucky..... he’s a pussy. Inject daily. LOL
Sorry Charlie, I couldn’t resist.


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[Livinlean]

Don’t listen to Chucky..... he’s a pussy. Inject daily. LOL
Sorry Charlie, I couldn’t resist.


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Haha well i'm definitely a believer in daily injections. In my experience I can get a better "effect" from a lower dose with virtually no side effects or I've yet to feel them anyways.

[charger69]

Haha well i'm definitely a believer in daily injections. In my experience I can get a better "effect" from a lower dose with virtually no side effects or I've yet to feel them anyways.

Finally, someone who understands me. LOL


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[Livinlean]

May I ask how much TrenA you're using per week? Just curious about the sides, if any.

I've only ran TrenE, because long esters just help my life out with far fewer injections. I get terrible insomnia on Tren, so I started TrenA in the cycle I'm starting today hoping that injecting less Tren every other day will help the insomnia some.

You're killing it man, I appreciate you sharing this log.

Best,
C-

I started shooting Tren A pre workout last year sometime and fell in love with it. Currently I use it 5 x a week at 50mg pre workout so 250mg per week.
I don't get any insomnia anymore nor did I get any last contest prep when my doses were slightly higher. I really notice no side effect other than a bit of increased aggression but this is exactly why I take it preworkout.

I also shoot all my gear out of 29g 1/2inch slin pins. Its a bit more time consuming but I get no muscle irritation this way and much prefer daily insulin pins to twice weekly with a 25g. Ever since switching from a 25g to 29g, I am able to hit more muscles without pain. For example, I would not touch my front or rear head of my delt before or any part of my quad but now I have no issues with any of them and actual prefer those areas because there is no scar tissue.

[Charlie67]

Don’t listen to Chucky..... he’s a pussy. Inject daily. LOL
Sorry Charlie, I couldn’t resist.

Just striving to be like you man, lol.

I also shoot all my gear out of 29g 1/2inch slin pins. Its a bit more time consuming but I get no muscle irritation this way and much prefer daily insulin pins to twice weekly with a 25g. Ever since switching from a 25g to 29g, I am able to hit more muscles without pain.

Thanks for that, I was going to go every other day, but now I'm thinking maybe every day too.... Are you back loading the slin pins? or can you actually draw it and shoot it? for whatever reason, every time I try to backload a syringe I end up shooting some of it across the room when putting back in the plunger.

[Livinlean]

Just striving to be like you man, lol.



Thanks for that, I was going to go every other day, but now I'm thinking maybe every day too.... Are you back loading the slin pins? or can you actually draw it and shoot it? for whatever reason, every time I try to backload a syringe I end up shooting some of it across the room when putting back in the plunger.

I backload my syringe, no patience to draw using a 29g lol. Theres not more than a drop of liquid that leaks out. I don't know if this will help but what I do is flip the syringe so the needle faces up right after i've gotten the plunger close enough to make sure nothing spills out. I hope I explained that well enough

[Livinlean]

Am weight: 222.6lb

Seems like the lower bodyweight got to me today, on chest anyways. Hamstrings went pretty well... I pretty much got a sweet mind muscle connection after my first warm up and had to limp out of the gym

Flat BB 315x8 ... was aiming for 10-12
Incline DB 100x9 ... Was aiming for top set of 120lbs but the 100s
Pec dec 3 sets of 10-15
Lying leg curls 3 sets, last 1 drop set to failure
Romanian deadlifts 225x10, 315x7
Leg press 4x20 5x20 6x20 7x15 ... On this one I wanted to see what weight I would need to do to fail a 20 rep set

Im alot more flexible and mobile. Stretches and foam rolling feels a lot better when you can actually move side to side. Not that I think I got "huge" by any means but I did get 10lbs heavier than I've ever been and Im currently sitting 15lbs heavier than I did last off-season yet I'm leaner. It was also nice to be able to touch my toes today after weeks LOLL

[charger69]

16 week prep? Why so long? I usually go 12 weeks and that seems long to most.


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[Livinlean]

16 week prep? Why so long? I usually go 12 weeks and that seems long to most.


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The first portion would be a bulk done a bit cleaner than usual. High calorie diet with 1 cheat meal a week and cardio. I definitely wouldn't be in a caloric deficit for those 16 weeks.

I find it easier to stay on track when i'm on prep. I know I won't skip any cardio days or ab workouts and adding these two will help me expend more energy thus allowing me to eat more food.

[Windex]

Are you still looking for injectable Superdrol? Gard Labs had a decent amount of "exotic" things. I don't know if he specifically carried that or if he's still in business.

[Livinlean]

Are you still looking for injectable Superdrol? Gard Labs had a decent amount of "exotic" things. I don't know if he specifically carried that or if he's still in business.

I've never used gard and don't have access to it but my innovagen guy has injectable sdrol. I decided to hold off for now. My body isn't cooperating and I'm leaning towards taking a break.

I have just over 6 weeks until I need to get serious (marks 16 weeks out) and I think I need to prioritize my injuries here and get my shoulder to 100%. Likely I will save the sdrol for later on and switch to TRT dose test microdosed daily with HGH. I had intended on taking a break before prep but now i'm starting to think I need to leave more time to let my body recover just to be safe.

[Windex]

I've never used gard and don't have access to it but my innovagen guy has injectable sdrol. I decided to hold off for now. My body isn't cooperating and I'm leaning towards taking a break.

I have just over 6 weeks until I need to get serious (marks 16 weeks out) and I think I need to prioritize my injuries here and get my shoulder to 100%. Likely I will save the sdrol for later on and switch to TRT dose test microdosed daily with HGH. I had intended on taking a break before prep but now i'm starting to think I need to leave more time to let my body recover just to be safe.

I like Inno for the more exotic stuff. He also carries Cardarine, MK, Udoxyl, and Injectable glutathione among a few other cool products.

Don't the 5mL vials drive you bananas though?

[Livinlean]

I like Inno for the more exotic stuff. He also carries Cardarine, MK, Udoxyl, and Injectable glutathione among a few other cool products.

Don't the 5mL vials drive you bananas though?

5ml bottles is the main reason I stick to syn over inno tbh. Inno is great for things like helios and MK. Inno has the best MK I have ever used. I was just using syn's MK and I didn't feel a thing other than better sleep.

[Windex]

5ml bottles is the main reason I stick to syn over inno tbh. Inno is great for things like helios and MK. Inno has the best MK I have ever used. I was just using syn's MK and I didn't feel a thing other than better sleep.

Interesting - I've been using Syn's MK from Day 1 for the last several months and been quite happy - 15mg pills. Are you doing before bed only or splitting the dose between AM and PM?

Ironically I am trying out Innovagen MK starting next week. My rep doesn't carry Syn - I was just buying it through CMS (Chad). Wanted to avoid buying one single item from someone else and pay shipping twice. Interested to see the difference if any.

[charger69]

Is that place in the US?


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[Livinlean]

Is that place in the US?


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I believe it is in Canada only (gard)

[Livinlean]

Am weigh in: 218lbs.

Bloat is completely gone and im seeing way more of my abs than I expected on a 5000 cal diet. I have a full 6 pack from front view, not so much from side but I'm not trying to be ripped by any means. My mobility and flexibility is just about the same as when I am in the 205 range other than my right chest. I believe my right shoulder/rotator cuff injury is causing a severe lack of ROM in my chest. I have physio scheduled for next Monday to help things get resolved and in the meantime I am sticking to machine presses for the most part for chest (can't do flyes without pain) until this injury subsides.

I have now started my cruise. I will be using pharm grade test alongside pharm grade HGH. I was given both for free and I have enough on hand for my cruise portion. Not running anything crazy and am starting my HGH at 2iu but will increase to 3iu after a week or so.

Current cruise dosages:
Pharm Test E 50mg pre workout 5x week = 250mg weekly
Pharm HGH 2iu AM

After my cruise I will do a mass gaining/strength phase to kick off my contest prep as I try to pack on some more size before starting the cutting portion. In the meantime the goal is to maintain somewhere near my current weight (hopefully gain) while continuing with cardio and getting leaner/tighter to help with insulin resistance as I do intend to dose my slin quite high to start my blast in 4-6 weeks here.

[charger69]

Am weigh in: 218lbs.

Bloat is completely gone and im seeing way more of my abs than I expected on a 5000 cal diet. I have a full 6 pack from front view, not so much from side but I'm not trying to be ripped by any means. My mobility and flexibility is just about the same as when I am in the 205 range other than my right chest. I believe my right shoulder/rotator cuff injury is causing a severe lack of ROM in my chest. I have physio scheduled for next Monday to help things get resolved and in the meantime I am sticking to machine presses for the most part for chest (can't do flyes without pain) until this injury subsides.

I have now started my cruise. I will be using pharm grade test alongside pharm grade HGH. I was given both for free and I have enough on hand for my cruise portion. Not running anything crazy and am starting my HGH at 2iu but will increase to 3iu after a week or so.

Current cruise dosages:
Pharm Test E 50mg pre workout 5x week = 250mg weekly
Pharm HGH 2iu AM

After my cruise I will do a mass gaining/strength phase to kick off my contest prep as I try to pack on some more size before starting the cutting portion. In the meantime the goal is to maintain somewhere near my current weight (hopefully gain) while continuing with cardio and getting leaner/tighter to help with insulin resistance as I do intend to dose my slin quite high to start my blast in 4-6 weeks here.

What is quite high?


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[Livinlean]

What is quite high?


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Well, I'll be ramping up so its hard to say what number I will end up at but lantus will be at 30-50iu with 10-15iu humalog at least twice a day maybe more. I will essentially run it as high as my diet allows but remember, this is pre contest so the goal is to stay lean through this process. Typically I do stay pretty lean with high doses of insulin and this time around I will be adding T3 to the mix as well.

If I had to choose one over the other, I would run lantus higher and take humalog 5iu or whatever is needed with my meals. I will be logging all of this when the time comes.

I don't recommend anyone try these doses listed above unless you are advanced in the realm of insulin. I have ran insulin 6-8 times and only experimented with these doses this off season. It is VERY easy to go hypo and I can not stress this enough. I keep dex tabs as well as bags of candy and gatorade in my gym bag just incase.

[charger69]

Well, I'll be ramping up so its hard to say what number I will end up at but lantus will be at 30-50iu with 10-15iu humalog at least twice a day maybe more. I will essentially run it as high as my diet allows but remember, this is pre contest so the goal is to stay lean through this process. Typically I do stay pretty lean with high doses of insulin and this time around I will be adding T3 to the mix as well.

If I had to choose one over the other, I would run lantus higher and take humalog 5iu or whatever is needed with my meals. I will be logging all of this when the time comes.

I don't recommend anyone try these doses listed above unless you are advanced in the realm of insulin. I have ran insulin 6-8 times and only experimented with these doses this off season. It is VERY easy to go hypo and I can not stress this enough. I keep dex tabs as well as bags of candy and gatorade in my gym bag just incase.

During contest prep I went hypo on 2 iu and was like wtf. As you deplete, it changes your levels and tolerance.
Be safe!


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[Windex]

coming up on 1 week switching from Syn to Innovagen for MK. Haven't noticed any differences yet even with a 5mg dose difference (30 vs 25)

Will have to follow up in a few weeks time and see

[Livinlean]

Am Weigh in: 220.4

Hovering around the same weight but visibly getting leaner. Cardio is also a lot better now and I can sprint on the treadmill... not much of a sprint at 8.0 but ill be at 9.0 pretty soon I feel. Feels good to know I can run at this weight but maybe I need new running shoes as it doesn't feel the best on my knees... nothing to worry about now but just being careful for long term.

So my main purpose of cruising was to let my body recover. I already feel like I want to get back into heavy lifting lol... The mental part is the biggest thing, if you don't want to lift heavy, 3 plates will feel like 4. My shoulder is still a little tight but has gotten a lot better with just one treatment. The on going treatments will solve this issue in no time and I think this is where the confidence is coming from.

At this moment I am aiming to start back up in a week and a half (Monday feb 3rd). I have an appointment with my physio Saturday Jan 31 and unless he advises against it, I will be starting my bulk alongside a variation of a DC program I just finished writing the other day. Last bulk I went about 6 weeks with heavy training, this time around I am aiming for 8-10 but will have to use more safety gear. Im ordering myself a new belt and some sort of elbow equipment. I think the compression cuff by slingshot is all I really need. I also think a DC plan where I need to hit rep numbers as opposed to 1rep and 3rep maxes will be a lot more forgiving on my body (definitely not my CNS tho).

[Cuz]

Just wanted to say very impressive log and following along, you look great. Im in the same boat with my left shoulder pretty sure its the bicep tendon or subscapularus and man it is a total killer aggravated mine yesterday trying to squat fuckin sucks but hang in there you look awesome

[Livinlean]

Just wanted to say very impressive log and following along, you look great. Im in the same boat with my left shoulder pretty sure its the bicep tendon or subscapularus and man it is a total killer aggravated mine yesterday trying to squat fuckin sucks but hang in there you look awesome

Appreciate it man, thank you!

My subscap is always acting up but this is my first time with bicep tendon issues. Currently the only pain I have is the short head of my bicep tendon and hopefully thats gone soon.

[Windex]

Appreciate it man, thank you!

My subscap is always acting up but this is my first time with bicep tendon issues. Currently the only pain I have is the short head of my bicep tendon and hopefully thats gone soon.

Have you tried BPC157 / TB500

[Livinlean]

Have you tried BPC157 / TB500

I've always had my physio fix my subscap pretty easily and never had bicep tendon issues so no I honestly didn't even think about those 2.

I think I'll order some after reading up on the two and figuring out my dosing. I've heard nothing but good things. Appreciate the advice!

[Livinlean]

Am weight: 220.2

Hovering around 220 with my 5k diet and getting leaner by the day. Can't really complain. I would say my shoulder is at about 80%, Im still avoiding hitting shoulders themselves but I'm able to bench 315 for reps no problem. I just can't unrack anything heavier than 315. Since I plan to start my next bulk phase on Feb 3rd, I think I will avoid arms, chest and shoulders until then. So really just legs and back for the next week and a bit. Since I take weekends off anyways, its only a weeks worth of workouts anyways.

Im pretty pumped about this bulk now after the last one mainly because I know what to change. The introduction of HGH + an oral (anadrol) alongside a proper workout plan (as opposed to heavy 1rm and 3rm) and a cleaner diet should yield some good results. Al though I still think if I try for 7k calories, I'll need ice cream in the mix to hit those cals, Im pretty sure I can get away with 6k range based off what I am currently seeing at 5k. I also think my distended stomach from the constant consumption of food got in the way of some lifts.

This is me yesterday, easily the leanest i've been at this size. I look forward to this being my "before" photo.

[Windex]

I did 1mg TB500 per day with 250mcg BPC157 in AM then another 250mcg in PM.

Next run I am going to do 8 weeks instead of 6. I'll also front load 5mg TB500 on Day 1 + Day 2

[Proximal]

Sorry for the intrusion. I am a PT and sub scap is generally never an issue.

Are you guys meaning supraspinatus? That’s the first RC muscle that becomes involved.

BTW, RC issues have a weird pain referral/radiation to the biceps region & rarely is the biceps involved as well. You’ll know you have a potential biceps issue (generally long head) when you curl and your arms aren’t supported (like on preachers). DB work in particular is a bitch.

[Livinlean]

Sorry for the intrusion. I am a PT and sub scap is generally never an issue.

Are you guys meaning supraspinatus? That’s the first RC muscle that becomes involved.

BTW, RC issues have a weird pain referral/radiation to the biceps region & rarely is the biceps involved as well. You’ll know you have a potential biceps issue (generally long head) when you curl and your arms aren’t supported (like on preachers). DB work in particular is a bitch.

Feel free to intrude my friend.

I get dry needling (IMS) done on both supraspinatus and supscap. It seems I neglected my neck stiffness that happened sometime in Dec which led to a bunch of things going wrong. Most of which have been relieved since my last visit to my PT but I still have an issue with my right forearm as of now.

My right shoulder feels a bit of tension but only on flyes so I completely avoid that movement now. Im taking Windex's advise and jumping on some BPC at least and possibly Tb500.

[Livinlean]

My diet will start off with the same 5k base diet that I have been following. My thought process here is that the introduction of insulin at 50 units and anadrol at 100mg daily alone should yield some mass gain so I will add calories from there.

Meal 1, pre workout and post workout consist of a massive shake I make and split into 3. I find it easy to digest and thats really the only reason.
2 bananas
90g oats
120g pure honey
160g cream of rice
60g natural PB
20g chia seeds
30g coconut oil
4 large raw eggs
4 scoops hydro protein
3034 cals, 377 carb, 96 fat, 175 protein. Again, this is split into 3 shakes so 1000 calories each.

Meal 2
7oz chicken thighs
150 grams rice
590 cals, 48 carb, 20 fat, 51 protein

Meal 3
6oz lean ground beef
1/2 cup kirkland organic marinara
100g organic pasta
670 cals, 59 carb, 24 fat, 53 protein

Meal 4
7oz chicken thighs
150 grams rice
590 cals, 48 carb, 20 fat, 51 protein

5038 cals, 559 carbs, 168 fat, 325 protein. This plan probably doesn't look like a lot of food and its not. I'm hungry quite a few times through the day which is a great thing as theres lots of room to increase food and total calories. The only change I will be making is adding a 100g of carb shake intra workout consisting of a combination of juice and gatorade. The second thing will be adding Alaskan wild caught salmon to my chicken thigh meals bringing the meat to 10oz range per each of those meals.

[Livinlean]

Morning weight: 218.2lbs

A few nights in a row now I've missed my last meal of beef and pasta. The decreased workout frequency means less hunger for me and I've been fine with it since its a deload anyways. Tonite was the first time I hit my last meal this week (I trained back today). I plan to take Friday, Sat and Sunday off from the gym and hit it hard on Monday with my new program and stack.

Received my BPC157 in the mail today (really quick). Starting tonite at 250mcg in my shoulder. I will be pinning my shoulder in 2 different spots alternating between one spot in the morning and the other spot before bed. Fixing my shoulder is priority and i'll worry about the other nagging stuff after this, hopefully it works as well as its supposed to. Ofcourse I will be updating my results in here.

I also met my source and picked up my gear for the next 10 weeks. This will be my heaviest cycle to date and to say i'm excited would be an understatement lol. I chose Deca to go alongside my test. It's hard to argue against it as a muscle builder but my joints, in particular my knees have felt dry and almost fragile walking around at 220 (keep in mind i've been 205 for years now).

Again, this is a planned 10 week run alongside a DC program I wrote for myself.
Deca 1000mg
Test 1000mg
Anadrol 700mg (100mg daily)
HGH 4iu AM
Lantus 30iu morning
Humalog pre wokout 10iu
Humalog post workout 10iu
Cialis 10mg PM
Nolva 10mg PM

Health Supps
Upon wakening
Citrus bergamot 1000mg
NAC 1200mg

before meal 1
Apple cider vinegar 2 tbsp

Meal 1
Fish oil high EPA 3grams
Astralagus 3grams
Vitamin C 5grams
Vitamin D3 5000iu
Kirkland Calcium and magnesium supplement

Bed
Melatonin 5mg
Astralagus 3g
Magnesium
Tudca 500mg

I went on amazon and purchased a pretty detailed workout log. It has space for me to input my current measurements with space for another 8 or so weeks of updates, I've never really paid attention to this so it'll just be another way for me to monitor progress. The log itself is so I can ensure progressive overload but I'm sure that was self explanatory. Last blast I didn't use safety equipment like belts and wraps other than on my heavy bench press. This time around I intend on wearing a belt when needed to yield off back pumps (don't want them interfering with my workout) and also compression cuffs by slingshot brand which will be worn on any push day.

[Charlie67]

.... 250mcg in my shoulder. I will be pinning my shoulder in 2 different spots alternating between one spot in the morning and the other spot before bed.
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Deca 1000mg
Test 1000mg
Anadrol 700mg (100mg daily)
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Out of curiosity where did you read the twice a day is more effective? I've only ever run it once a day (250mcg) so I'm curious about running 500 a day. I'm also running it now for the shoulder thing.

That's a killer cycle man, I'm not running a thousand mg of all three things I'm running combined, lol. .... And damn I love Anadrol, but never gone over 75.

How many days a week are you injecting?

[Livinlean]

Out of curiosity where did you read the twice a day is more effective? I've only ever run it once a day (250mcg) so I'm curious about running 500 a day. I'm also running it now for the shoulder thing.

That's a killer cycle man, I'm not running a thousand mg of all three things I'm running combined, lol. .... And damn I love Anadrol, but never gone over 75.

How many days a week are you injecting?

Well most of the logs I read about BPC had twice a day injections so I just assumed that was the better route but more importantly, the pain in my shoulder goes from the front delt to the medial so I thought injecting directly into both spots was the best route. Had it been solely in my front delt Im not sure I would have gone the twice a day method and would likely have just done it in the morning when I shoot my GH and be done with it.

I've ran anadrol at 100mg before but I was eating less food. My only concern is that it doesn't zap my hunger but I won't know if I don't try. I've done 50 and 75 quite regularly as it is my oral of choice. I don't get BP issues really at all and from what I can remember I don't get appetite suppression either.

As far as injection schedule goes, I shoot my oils pre workout to keep things easy. With my new routine I will be training 4 days a week and that is partly where I got my dosing from. My test and deca comes in 250mg/ml vials so I decided to do 1cc of each pre workout giving me 1000mg of each per week. I was aiming for 2g plus orals so that worked out perfectly for me.

[Charlie67]

Interesting, maybe I'll up mine to 500 and give it a try. I'm not sure it's necessary to 'site inject' either BPC or TB500, but I've read it both ways so I guess do what's most convenient. I do it a abdominally.

Best of luck with this run, I'll be reading.

C-