You'll want to read this!

[skeletal pump]

when imjecting were told to withdraw the needle to make sure you havnt got a vein, then what do you draw into the syringe?

[Juicedupmonkey]

when imjecting were told to withdraw the needle to make sure you havnt got a vein, then what do you draw into the syringe?

OMG please don't start sticking anything into your body with statements like that you shouldn't even be thinking about steroids. Dear lord!

[skeletal pump]

well im not starting my first cycle for a month or two so i havnt given that any thought, trying to get my gear and diet down first. so how bout you stop being an asshole and instead help me by telling what to do

[DocBman]

well im not starting my first cycle for a month or two so i havnt given that any thought, trying to get my gear and diet down first. so how bout you stop being an asshole and instead help me by telling what to do

You will get an air bubble that enters the syringe...

And he is not being an asshole, he is just merely commenting on the fact of your lack of research and inexperience...

[Juicedupmonkey]

well im not starting my first cycle for a month or two so i havnt given that any thought, trying to get my gear and diet down first. so how bout you stop being an asshole and instead help me by telling what to do

When Ronnie comes back he should be able to help you. Like I've heard him say he isn't condoning people your age doing steroids but if you are set on doing them then he will help. I'm just gonna stay out
of it

[Archangel.]

well im not starting my first cycle for a month or two so i havnt given that any thought, trying to get my gear and diet down first. so how bout you stop being an asshole and instead help me by telling what to do

So you're gonna do it anyways eh bud. I wouldn't, and think you will regret it in the future, BUT if you are, be careful and be smart about everything.

[MercuryEvo]

He IS being an asshole. When everyone is an asshole to people who ask questions like this, no one else can research and find answers. Crazy as it may seem, not everyone thinks to research actual injecting.

Skeletal Pump, Google injection aspiration, or just click this http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/stero...134257749.html

[skeletal pump]

thanks mercury evo, thats all i needed to hear. what size of needles and syringes am i gunna want to get as well? i dont know if you need to know what gear ill be using but im gunna use test and possibly deca.

[Ronnie Rowland]

thanks mercury evo, thats all i needed to hear. What size of needles and syringes am i gunna want to get as well? I dont know if you need to know what gear ill be using but im gunna use test and possibly deca.

the best all around size to get are 3ml/syringes and 1 inch/needles in 22 gauge, if gear is thin go with 23! Heat syringe up with hair dryer some before injecting to make injecting easier..

[50+]

currently reposted

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie,
i was supposed to start my reload this past wednesday but had to stay on my deload dose because my buddy didn't come through with what i needed to start my reload. Am i taking the correct approach by staying with the deload program until (hopefully) next wednesday when my buddy comes through. yes, i think so! if i have to extend the deload another week after that would that still be the correct approach. you can do it either way but at age 50 i would stay with the deload my results have been so good, needless to say, i'm pretty bummed out. hang in there..it will all work out in the end.
edit: I have an idea but not sure if it's a good one. My 2nd reload was going to be slightly more sustanon 250 than the 1st 8 week cycle stacked with deca durabolin 200 mg/ml for the 1st 4 weeks of the 8 week reload. I presently have dianabol 50 mg/ml (drops). Can i substitute the sust. 250 with the d-bol until i get what i need to remain on my original program. yes! Start reload with d-bol and deca!
as always, thanks
steve

above

[50+]

above

Thanks Ronnie, you've put my mind at ease now that I know there's a way to work around it.

[JuliusPleaser]

hey ronnie, i think u missed my questions i posted...i know u have so many so i dont blame you...i appreciate ur wisdom thank u...post # 1296

[Archangel.]

Hey Ron, I'm also not sure if you missed my post. It was #1294

Thank you

[hard trainer]

i train very hard 5 days a week i have been taking gear recently i have been taking monsta pack and oxybol50 and its comleatly draining me and now have little interest and am always tired could you recomend a decent hardcore cycle for me to start for size and strengh cheers your post is a great read

[Ronnie Rowland]

i train very hard 5 days a week i have been taking gear recently i have been taking monsta pack and oxybol50 and its comleatly draining me and now have little interest and am always tired could you recomend a decent hardcore cycle for me to start for size and strengh cheers your post is a great read

i'm not sure what a monsta pack consist of!? How many real cycles are under your belt? I think you need to reduce your training to 4 days per week! How many sets per body part are you utilizing?

[hard trainer]

i train very hard 5 days a week i have been taking gear recently i have been taking monsta pack and oxybol50 and its comleatly draining me and now have little interest and am always tired could you recomend a decent hardcore cycle for me to start for size and strengh cheers your post is a great read

[delta1111]

Hi Ronnie,
This is a repeat of a question I asked a few pages ago. You may have missed it.

I really love using tren and test. My question is, if I were using your STS and during the first load was using tren at 75mg eod, then the second reload was 100mg eod, and the third 150mg eod. Would this be to much tren? and would you think I was using it for too long? Obviously i'm using test with the tren aswell. I'm just a bit concerned with the things i've read regarding the use of tren and liver damage. As for other sides like sleeplesness and mood, I have no problem there. Hope you don't mind me posting this again.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=delta1111;5273866]Hi Ronnie,
This is a repeat of a question I asked a few pages ago. You may have missed it.

I really love using tren and test. My question is, if I were using your STS and during the first load was using tren at 75mg eod, then the second reload was 100mg eod, and the third 150mg eod. Would this be to much tren? and would you think I was using it for too long? YOU WILL BE FINE WITH 150 MGS EOD AND USING IT FOR 3 RELOADS IN A ROW! YOU MAY NEED CABERGOLINE TO KEEP PROLACTIN LEVELS DOWN. Obviously i'm using test with the tren aswell. I'm just a bit concerned with the things i've read regarding the use of tren and liver damage. TREN DOES NOT DAMAGE THE LIVER IMO. IT'S NEVER ELEVATED MY LIVER ENZYMES. BUT, ANADROL CAN BE HARD ON THE LIVER! As for other sides like sleeplesness and mood, I have no problem there. Hope you don't mind me posting this again. SORRY, I MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME![/QUOTE]ABOVE

[delta1111]

Thanks Ronnie,

I have another question. You have advised me before that Winstrol can cause hair loss. How does Tren compare in terms of hair loss?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks Ronnie,

I have another question. You have advised me before that Winstrol can cause hair loss. How does Tren compare in terms of hair loss? I RECALL YOU STATED TREN DID NOT GIVE YOU ANY PROBLEM UNTIL YOU ADDED THE WINSTROL. CORRECT? It really does vary amongst each individual. It's impossible to say with 100% accuracy but tren in general causes more hair loss due to it's androgenicity.

above

[delta1111]

above Originally Posted by delta1111
Thanks Ronnie,

I have another question. You have advised me before that Winstrol can cause hair loss. How does Tren compare in terms of hair loss? I RECALL YOU STATED TREN DID NOT GIVE YOU ANY PROBLEM UNTIL YOU ADDED THE WINSTROL. CORRECT? It really does vary amongst each individual. It's impossible to say with 100% accuracy but tren in general causes more hair loss due to it's androgenicity.

What about deca and hair loss.

Thanks.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

big ron... we know you are a busy man right now with training booming...would you suggest lateral raises or presses over-head....for building larger caps on side of shoulders???

[Ronnie Rowland]

big ron... we know you are a busy man right now with training booming...would you suggest lateral raises or presses over-head....for building larger caps on side of shoulders???presses are the number one exercise for building capped deltoids! Lateral raises help and should be added as well. And yes I have been extremely busy at work. I'm having to turn people away which is both good and bad.

above

[BJJ]

Ciao Ronnie, I am preparing my 3rd cycle and decided to run it using your reload/deload sample.
I have direct experience on all the drugs reported, except Masteron, NPP and rEPO.

Thank you very much for your expertise.

Current Stats: 187 cm (6'2 feet), 95.5 kg (210 lbs), 10% bf

Target: To reach 102 Kg (225 lbs) keeping the same fat percentage and hold that weight after the PCT.

Note: I will have several garage fights during those months, this is the reason for rEPO.

BULKING 1
Week 1 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 1 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 1 Testosterone Suspension 50 mg ed
Week 1-2 Erythropoietin 1000 iu ed
Week 1-8 Testosterone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Mesterolone 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 1-8 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 2-8 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 2-8 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

BRIDGE
Week 9-10 Testosterone Propionate 50 mg ed
Week 9-10 Drostanolone Propionate 70 mg ed
Week 9-10 Somatropin 15 iu ed
Week 9-10 L-Thyroxine 150 mcg ed

BULKING 2
Week 11 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 11 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 11-18 Testosterone Propionate 150 mg ed
Week 11-18 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 75 mg ed
Week 11-18 Mesterolone 125 mg ed
Week 11-18 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 11-18 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 12-18 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 12-18 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

PCT
Week 19-22 Clomiphene Citrate 150/100/100/100 mg ed
Week 19-24 Tamoxifen Citrate 40/40/30/30/20/20 mg ed
Week 19-38 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 19-38 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 25-26 Glutathione 1200/600 mg ed

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ciao Ronnie, I am preparing my 3rd cycle and decided to run it using your reload/deload sample.
I have direct experience on all the drugs reported, except Masteron, NPP and rEPO.

Thank you very much for your expertise.

Current Stats: 187 cm (6'2 feet), 95.5 kg (210 lbs), 10% bf

Target: To reach 102 Kg (225 lbs) keeping the same fat percentage and hold that weight after the PCT.

Note: I will have several garage fights during those months, this is the reason for rEPO.

BULKING 1
Week 1 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 1 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 1 Testosterone Suspension 50 mg ed
Week 1-2 Erythropoietin 1000 iu ed
Week 1-8 Testosterone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Mesterolone 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 1-8 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 2-8 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 2-8 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

BRIDGE
Week 9-10 Testosterone Propionate 50 mg ed
Week 9-10 Drostanolone Propionate 70 mg ed
Week 9-10 Somatropin 15 iu ed
Week 9-10 L-Thyroxine 150 mcg ed

BULKING 2
Week 11 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 11 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 11-18 Testosterone Propionate 150 mg ed
Week 11-18 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 75 mg ed
Week 11-18 Mesterolone 125 mg ed
Week 11-18 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 11-18 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 12-18 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 12-18 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

PCT
Week 19-22 Clomiphene Citrate 150/100/100/100 mg ed
Week 19-24 Tamoxifen Citrate 40/40/30/30/20/20 mg ed
Week 19-38 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 19-38 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 25-26 Glutathione 1200/600 mg ed

Let me start by asking you "why are you wanting to run 30 ius of GH each day during the reload?" Also, i would suggest winstrol along with the deca for improved performance. Test e or test c would be much better than 150 mgs of prop ed. You will feel like a pin cushion doing all those shots of prop! Remember, test is test so using the prop has no advantage for you.

[BJJ]

Ciao Ronnie, I am preparing my 3rd cycle and decided to run it using your reload/deload sample.
I have direct experience on all the drugs reported, except Masteron, NPP and rEPO.

Thank you very much for your expertise.

Current Stats: 187 cm (6'2 feet), 95.5 kg (210 lbs), 10% bf

Target: To reach 102 Kg (225 lbs) keeping the same fat percentage and hold that weight after the PCT.

Note: I will have several garage fights during those months, this is the reason for rEPO.

BULKING 1
Week 1 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 1 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 1 Testosterone Suspension 50 mg ed
Week 1-2 Erythropoietin 1000 iu ed
Week 1-8 Testosterone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Mesterolone 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 1-8 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 2-8 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 2-8 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

BRIDGE
Week 9-10 Testosterone Propionate 50 mg ed
Week 9-10 Drostanolone Propionate 70 mg ed
Week 9-10 Somatropin 15 iu ed
Week 9-10 L-Thyroxine 150 mcg ed

BULKING 2
Week 11 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 11 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 11-18 Testosterone Propionate 150 mg ed
Week 11-18 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 75 mg ed
Week 11-18 Mesterolone 125 mg ed
Week 11-18 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 11-18 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 12-18 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 12-18 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

PCT
Week 19-22 Clomiphene Citrate 150/100/100/100 mg ed
Week 19-24 Tamoxifen Citrate 40/40/30/30/20/20 mg ed
Week 19-38 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 19-38 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 25-26 Glutathione 1200/600 mg ed

Let me start by asking you "why are you wanting to run 30 ius of GH each day during the reload?" each day of the first weeks actually. i want to create hyperplasia with those blasts and mature it with test. Also, i would suggest winstrol along with the deca for improved performance. you mean in my second reload right? Test e or test c would be much better than 150 mgs of prop ed. why? You will feel like a pin cushion doing all those shots of prop! i just finished a test susp cycle with 2 up to 3 injections daily for 80 days. pinning is no problem really. Remember, test is test so using the prop has no advantage for you. prop is a short ester, comparing different tests on a same diet base, one should has less water retention and that for me is an issue since i am a martial artist. also if something goes wrong, by using only short esters except for rEPO, i can get my system clean in no more than 3 days.

thank you for you time, bold^

[delta1111]

Hi Ronnie,
Have you ever heard of Diclofenac (an anti inflammatory) affecting gains or protien synthesis?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ronnie,
Have you ever heard of Diclofenac (an anti inflammatory) affecting gains or protien synthesis?

Any anti-inflammatory or tylenol product does in fact decrease protein synthesis to some degree (how much to be exact is not known so higher dosages of anabolics are usually needed to get the same response ). Unfortunately, I have to take both of these products on a daily basis due to chronic lower back pain.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=BJJ;5291239]Originally Posted by BJJ
Ciao Ronnie, I am preparing my 3rd cycle and decided to run it using your reload/deload sample.
I have direct experience on all the drugs reported, except Masteron, NPP and rEPO.

Thank you very much for your expertise.

Current Stats: 187 cm (6'2 feet), 95.5 kg (210 lbs), 10% bf

Target: To reach 102 Kg (225 lbs) keeping the same fat percentage and hold that weight after the PCT.

Note: I will have several garage fights during those months, this is the reason for rEPO.

BULKING 1
Week 1 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 1 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 1 Testosterone Suspension 50 mg ed
Week 1-2 Erythropoietin 1000 iu ed
Week 1-8 Testosterone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Mesterolone 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 1-8 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 2-8 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 2-8 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

BRIDGE
Week 9-10 Testosterone Propionate 50 mg ed
Week 9-10 Drostanolone Propionate 70 mg ed
Week 9-10 Somatropin 15 iu ed
Week 9-10 L-Thyroxine 150 mcg ed

BULKING 2
Week 11 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 11 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 11-18 Testosterone Propionate 150 mg ed
Week 11-18 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 75 mg ed
Week 11-18 Mesterolone 125 mg ed
Week 11-18 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 11-18 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 12-18 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 12-18 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

PCT
Week 19-22 Clomiphene Citrate 150/100/100/100 mg ed
Week 19-24 Tamoxifen Citrate 40/40/30/30/20/20 mg ed
Week 19-38 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 19-38 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 25-26 Glutathione 1200/600 mg ed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland
Let me start by asking you "why are you wanting to run 30 ius of GH each day during the reload?" each day of the first weeks actually. i want to create hyperplasia with those blasts and mature it with test. YOU CAN DO THAT BUT IF YOU GO THAT ROUTE YOU'LL NEED TO TAKE GH FOR A LONGER DURATION. MY SUGGESTION IS TO RUN HIGH DOSAGES EVERY DAY THROUGHOUT ENTIRE 20 WEEK SLINGSHOT CYCLE (INCLUDING DELOADS). Also, i would suggest winstrol along with the deca for improved performance. you mean in my second reload right? Test e or test c would be much better than 150 mgs of prop ed. why? You will feel like a pin cushion doing all those shots of prop! i just finished a test susp cycle with 2 up to 3 injections daily for 80 days. OUCH! WHY NOT JUST USE TEST E AND DO LESS INJECTIONS. THIS WILL DECREASE YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING AN ABCCESS AND SAVE YOU TIME AND MONEY! pinning is no problem really. Remember, test is test so using the prop has no advantage for you. prop is a short ester, comparing different tests on a same diet base, one should has less water retention and that for me is an issue since i am a martial artist. also if something goes wrong, by using only short esters except for rEPO, i can get my system clean in no more than 3 days. TEST E CLEARS OUT IN 7-8 DAYS AND PROP CAUSES JUST AS MUCH WATER RETENTION AS TEST-E IF YOU ARE SHOOTING THE PROP EVERY DAY! BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE rEPO.

thank you for you time, bold^
QUOTE]

ILL ANSWER IN RED ABOVE-

[BJJ]

Ciao Ronnie, I am preparing my 3rd cycle and decided to run it using your reload/deload sample.
I have direct experience on all the drugs reported, except Masteron, NPP and rEPO.

Thank you very much for your expertise.

Current Stats: 187 cm (6'2 feet), 95.5 kg (210 lbs), 10% bf

Target: To reach 102 Kg (225 lbs) keeping the same fat percentage and hold that weight after the PCT.

Note: I will have several garage fights during those months, this is the reason for rEPO.

BULKING 1
Week 1 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 1 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 1 Testosterone Suspension 50 mg ed
Week 1-2 Erythropoietin 1000 iu ed
Week 1-8 Testosterone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Mesterolone 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 1-8 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 2-8 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 2-8 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

BRIDGE
Week 9-10 Testosterone Propionate 50 mg ed
Week 9-10 Drostanolone Propionate 70 mg ed
Week 9-10 Somatropin 15 iu ed
Week 9-10 L-Thyroxine 150 mcg ed

BULKING 2
Week 11 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 11 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 11-18 Testosterone Propionate 150 mg ed
Week 11-18 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 75 mg ed
Week 11-18 Mesterolone 125 mg ed
Week 11-18 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 11-18 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 12-18 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 12-18 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

PCT
Week 19-22 Clomiphene Citrate 150/100/100/100 mg ed
Week 19-24 Tamoxifen Citrate 40/40/30/30/20/20 mg ed
Week 19-38 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 19-38 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 25-26 Glutathione 1200/600 mg ed

Let me start by asking you "why are you wanting to run 30 ius of GH each day during the reload?" each day of the first weeks actually. i want to create hyperplasia with those blasts and mature it with test. YOU CAN DO THAT BUT IF YOU GO THAT ROUTE YOU'LL NEED TO TAKE GH FOR A LONGER DURATION. MY SUGGESTION IS TO RUN HIGH DOSAGES EVERY DAY THROUGHOUT ENTIRE 20 WEEK SLINGSHOT CYCLE (INCLUDING DELOADS). Also, i would suggest winstrol along with the deca for improved performance. you mean in my second reload right? Test e or test c would be much better than 150 mgs of prop ed. why? You will feel like a pin cushion doing all those shots of prop! i just finished a test susp cycle with 2 up to 3 injections daily for 80 days. OUCH! WHY NOT JUST USE TEST E AND DO LESS INJECTIONS. THIS WILL DECREASE YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING AN ABCCESS AND SAVE YOU TIME AND MONEY! pinning is no problem really. Remember, test is test so using the prop has no advantage for you. prop is a short ester, comparing different tests on a same diet base, one should has less water retention and that for me is an issue since i am a martial artist. also if something goes wrong, by using only short esters except for rEPO, i can get my system clean in no more than 3 days. TEST E CLEARS OUT IN 7-8 DAYS AND PROP CAUSES JUST AS MUCH WATER RETENTION AS TEST-E IF YOU ARE SHOOTING THE PROP EVERY DAY! BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE rEPO.

thank you for you time, bold^

ILL ANSWER IN RED ABOVE-

I took some of your considerations into account and got rid of the hgh blasts.
What do you think?
Also, what should be taken into account when speaking about rEPO, that brought you to warn me about that compound?

BULKING 1
Week 1 Testosterone Suspension 50 mg ed
Week 1-2 Erythropoietin 1000 iu ed
Week 1-8 Testosterone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 75 mg ed
Week 1-8 Mesterolone 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 1-8 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 1-8 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 1-8 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d

BRIDGE
Week 9-12 Testosterone Enanthate 250 mg ew
Week 9-12 Drostanolone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 9-12 Somatropin 5 iu ed
Week 9-12 L-Thyroxine 50 mcg ed

BULKING 2
Week 13-18 Testosterone Propionate 150 mg ed
Week 13-18 Trenbolone Acetate 75 mg ed
Week 13-18 Mesterolone 125 mg ed
Week 13-18 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 13-18 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 13-18 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 13-18 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d

PCT
Week 19-22 Clomiphene Citrate 150/100/100/100 mg ed
Week 19-24 Tamoxifen Citrate 40/40/30/30/20/20 mg ed
Week 19-47 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 19-47 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 25-26 Glutathione 1200/600 mg ed

[Reed]

Ciao Ronnie, I am preparing my 3rd cycle and decided to run it using your reload/deload sample.
I have direct experience on all the drugs reported, except Masteron, NPP and rEPO.

Thank you very much for your expertise.

Current Stats: 187 cm (6'2 feet), 95.5 kg (210 lbs), 10% bf

Target: To reach 102 Kg (225 lbs) keeping the same fat percentage and hold that weight after the PCT.

Note: I will have several garage fights during those months, this is the reason for rEPO.

BULKING 1
Week 1 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 1 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 1 Testosterone Suspension 50 mg ed
Week 1-2 Erythropoietin 1000 iu ed
Week 1-8 Testosterone Propionate 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Mesterolone 100 mg ed
Week 1-8 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 1-8 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 2-8 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 2-8 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

BRIDGE
Week 9-10 Testosterone Propionate 50 mg ed
Week 9-10 Drostanolone Propionate 70 mg ed
Week 9-10 Somatropin 15 iu ed
Week 9-10 L-Thyroxine 150 mcg ed

BULKING 2
Week 11 Somatropin 30 iu ed
Week 11 L-Thyroxine 200 mcg ed
Week 11-18 Testosterone Propionate 150 mg ed
Week 11-18 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 75 mg ed
Week 11-18 Mesterolone 125 mg ed
Week 11-18 Exemestane 12.5 mg e3d
Week 11-18 Chorionic Gonadotrophin 250 iu e3d
Week 12-18 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 12-18 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed

PCT
Week 19-22 Clomiphene Citrate 150/100/100/100 mg ed
Week 19-24 Tamoxifen Citrate 40/40/30/30/20/20 mg ed
Week 19-38 Somatropin 10 iu ed
Week 19-38 L-Thyroxine 100 mcg ed
Week 25-26 Glutathione 1200/600 mg ed

why the need for so much? professional I guess?

[Ronnie Rowland]

why the need for so much? professional I guess?

I agree Reed. I can understand him running higher amounts of blue tops (which are weaker) but that's way too much somatropin IMO. It's better to run 8 ius of GH per day for 6 months straight than do 30 ius per day for only a few weeks.

[Reed]

................

[BJJ]

why the need for so much? professional I guess?

No sir, I am not a professional, my body tells.

Also, I do not think to be too much of a cycle but if you have some suggestions, please go for it and I will probably take them into account.

Thank you
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=1#post5293418

[bear89]

Im thinking of starting 1ml of tren and 1ml of super 350 every 3 days for 30 days, then 1ml of winstrol and 1ml super 350 every 3 days for 30 days. Is this a good cycle for lean muscle and what pct should I be taking?
cheers

[Ronnie Rowland]

Im thinking of starting 1ml of tren and 1ml of super 350 every 3 days for 30 days, then 1ml of winstrol and 1ml super 350 every 3 days for 30 days. Is this a good cycle for lean muscle and what pct should I be taking?
cheers

PCT has been talked about throughout this entire thread. Please go back and read.

In regards to your stack I would do tren and super test for 8 weeks (first reload) then change over to test/tren/winny for second 8 week reload.

[bear89]

sorry forgot to add:
22 years old
13stone
10% body fat
6ft 2"
Im thinking of starting 1ml of tren and 1ml of super 350 every 3 days for 30 days, then 1ml of winstrol and 1ml super 350 every 3 days for 30 days. Is this a good cycle for lean muscle and what pct should I be taking?
cheers

[Juicedupmonkey]

sorry forgot to add:
22 years old
13stone
10% body fat
6ft 2"
Im thinking of starting 1ml of tren and 1ml of super 350 every 3 days for 30 days, then 1ml of winstrol and 1ml super 350 every 3 days for 30 days. Is this a good cycle for lean muscle and what pct should I be taking?
cheers

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I second that.