my test cypionate log

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

whoops

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

well i pretty much subscribe to dorian yates philosophy on how he does it, where its all about intensity, i use maybe a bit more volume. you should work up to a max set where you give it all you got, and the sets before that one are doing work but you dont need to go to complete failure. and its all about perfect form all the time. i could try and explain it but just watch the first part of this vid someone just posted in gen chat

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000120608...cbebf7d11c0900

note his first exercise. he puts 155 on the bar, does it 8 or 10 times, perfect form warming up his muscles. then he goes 245, still warming up (obviously we are not as strong as these guys), perfect form but he only does like 8 reps. then on to 335, i think he does 6 reps on this. none of these sets are all out to failure, but the muscle is still getting work done and reinforcing the perfect form so when he gets to that all or nothing set, 415 i believe, he pushes it to the point where he is failing, where you cant even feel your muscles anymore, but he stays in form as he conditions himself that way all the time so its pretty much automatic. also note that a spotter is crucial for that last set. i think he gets 5 reps pretty much by himself and another with a spot. also note how he is always in control of the weight, not necessarily going super slow but always owning the bar.

for us mere mortals the intervals are much tighter. for instance, take a barbell flat press. for me, i start with 135, do it about 10-12 times. i actually do this twice because i like a lot of warm up on my shoulders before i really get started. then i go 225x8, 275x6, then i either put 295 or 315 on there (depends where i am at at the time) and shoot for 5-7 reps. this is when i am not on gear, when i was on test i was getting up to 365 for 5-7.

so its all about learning where your weights are and how to set yourself up to prime up to that last set. your sets may go 135, 185, 205, 225 or something like that. its not about how much weight you are lifting, its about how you are lifting that weight. over time you get a feel for it.

and then do the same thing for your next exercise (low incline dumbell press for me). then a few flys maybe and your done!

well i guess im gonna have to try this then, cant hurt any... ive always done more sets then that for chest, and i always feared i was overtraining b/c chest for me is the last to progress, so i guess its time to cut down on the sets and try this out, see what happens... thanks for the info, ill see how it goes for a few weeks and let u know when im benchin 600 haha

[Darksyde]

yea man, but again that is just how i like to do it, and there are always more than one way to skin a cat. if you look at vids of how ronnie coleman trains it is pretty much the polar opposite of yates, high volume high reps with kind of crappy form sometimes where he doesnt go all the way down or up. so whos to say what is best? but the yates method works for me and i think helps prevent over use injuries that occur over years of doing this shit.

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

very true on the injury thing, and trust me i know all too much about all the conflicting workout info out there lol, all you see is "do this", no dont do that do this, blah blah...

regardless i always change things up a bit after a while to see where itll get me, and i did just recently change up my chest routine, and the #'s are going up but who knows how much of that is because of the gear... one thing i didnt change tho is the intensity of the sets, i always go to failure especially on chest, so i think itll be a good turn around to try not to go to failure till the last set... maybe thats what ive needed *fingers crossed*

[Darksyde]

i usually get close to failure on the 2nd to last set myself, like one or two more reps would be failure. but ive done this progressive overload type thing for so long i know exactly where i am at with each set and rep, and i just save that last rep on the 2nd to last set and keep that little extra gas in the tank for the last killer set.

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

i usually get close to failure on the 2nd to last set myself, like one or two more reps would be failure. but ive done this progressive overload type thing for so long i know exactly where i am at with each set and rep, and i just save that last rep on the 2nd to last set and keep that little extra gas in the tank for the last killer set.

sounds good man, got chest comin up tomorrow so cant wait to start tryin this out

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

so i tried out the chest routine today, not bad i gotta say, to early to tell how good ill do with this routine obviously, but feelin nice and pumped.

[marseea1]

What week exactly did your test kick in?
and is it something that you just wake up and feel?
Do your balls always shrink up while on test?
I am 28 days in as of today. injection 9 is tomorrow for me.
and i really feel no different

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

What week exactly did your test kick in?
and is it something that you just wake up and feel?
Do your balls always shrink up while on test?
I am 28 days in as of today. injection 9 is tomorrow for me.
and i really feel no different

it's more gradual really I don't think you'll just wake up and feel it, and your about 4 weeks in so it should start up sometime very soon... I'm just sta rting week 8 and my balls don't look any smaller so I don't think that's a good indication

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

strength still the same as last week on back today, im gonna throw in another meal starting today so hopefully itll help me continue to gain

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

well i think adding in an extra meal was a pretty good idea, strength up today, not a HUGE difference, but a great workout none the less... tons of energy too. im eating prob 5000-5500 cals a day now, maybe even a little more... ah i love it. im being a lot more strict with cardio now, i was skipping it for a while in the beginning of the cycle, but keepin it steady now 3 times a week 20/30 mins. leg day tomorrow, fukking squats... dont make me think about it tomorrow 17th inject, im gonna be starting a new bottle from a different UGL, hope its legit stuff

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

ass is a little soar from my new gear... fukkin mexi crap lol.. oh well im 95% sure its legit, so f it no big deal... strength on the rise again, so glad i added in another meal, working wonders

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

today was one of those stressfull bust my ass for 8 hours at work days, and all the days that have been like that my workout has suffered from it, well, not today... strength was once again at a new high, in every single excersise i did i was up in weight or did more reps... usually its not EVERY one, and especially after a long days work, but i guess today was an exception... awsome

[Lightsout2184]

keep it up buddy looking forward to the after pics

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

keep it up buddy looking forward to the after pics

yea i wish i had some better before pics but ill be posting up some afters idk if after the cycle or after PCT (maybe after both) but im def higher in BF than before idk if i wanna post them up lol but i will for the sake of everyone following this...

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

chest/abs went well today i was a little tired when i got to the gym but blasted through everything anyway as best i could, i tried cutting the time between sets a little bit more than usual just to test out how much weight i could push with keeping rest times really short and to my suprise it didnt effect the weight i could do so i was really happy about that.

[JohnThePhoenix]

your gettin off the chain bro..keep hittin it hard.

p.s. im about a 300 lb samoan can i be your attorney? lmao (fear and loathing)

[Monstruoso]

shit now that you're saying , i can see...its johnny depp

but i always thought it was steve-o
hahah

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

your gettin off the chain bro..keep hittin it hard.

p.s. im about a 300 lb samoan can i be your attorney? lmao (fear and loathing)

lol yes, but were gonna have to arm ourselves, through the teeth... anything worth doing, is worth doing right

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

good workout today, i almost feel like the new UGL bottle of cyp that im using is better then the first one, but it might just be in my head... i did back today, couldnt go yesterday (my normal back day) but having an unexpected day of rest really payed off.

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

heres some progress pics, 9 weeks in, im holding water and i know i gained a few pounds of fat, but i dont care ill cut it out later... i gained a decent amount of muscle, and im pretty happy about it. dont be too harsh guys lol

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

and btw those are taken no pump but maybe a tiny bit of flexing but not really, im not too good at posing for pics and i tried to make them at similar stances as the before shots so ppl can get a better idea of the results, i know the before pics suck and i didnt have too many..

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

heres a few more

[Batman360]

Wow, great job man! I can definetly see changes. You are overall bigger, but the greatest improvement I see are chest, tris and traps. It's good to see your not worried about fat gain which is good because your not limiting your gains. As long as you know you can get rid of it easily I don't see a problem. Keep going!

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

Wow, great job man! I can definetly see changes. You are overall bigger, but the greatest improvement I see are chest, tris and traps. It's good to see your not worried about fat gain which is good because your not limiting your gains. As long as you know you can get rid of it easily I don't see a problem. Keep going!

thanks man yea I've been hitting chest real hard cause I needed the most improvement there.. and yea the BF is ok for now, as long as after pct I get it the fukk offmy body haha. I'm glad I didn't lose any vascularity in my arms, they've grown a decent amount but they're still pretty cut up and veiny I love it

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

so i started taking the advice of "eattrainrest" the personal trainer on this board, said to cut down my sets and that i was overtraining, so i did a total of 10 sets for shoulders, 4 for traps, and 6 for abs... good day in the gym nonetheless, but goddammit i was so tempted to do more... ill ride it out though and see if hes right that if i cut down the sets ill see better growth... time will tell

[Darksyde]

i can definately see the weight gain man, you look significantly bigger to me at least in your upper body. keep it up!

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

i can definately see the weight gain man, you look significantly bigger to me at least in your upper body. keep it up!

thanks man I def needed some size in the upper body region so im glad a lot of people are noticing an upper body change.. the most comments from friends/fam have been about my chest, arms and neck (from my traps growing) it's funny cause I only do 4 sets for traps and they look like they grew quite a bit, I guess the whole less is more thing holds some truth

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

19th inject just done, did it in my quad for the first time, im gonna be using prop ED at 75mgs a day for about 2 weeks after my last cyp shot so i only have to wait 3 days to start PCT, so i figured its time to try some different injection spots to get them ready for the prop.

anyway, workout today went unbelievably well.. strength incredible, huge improvement from last weeks #'s. did legs so hopefully that wont effect how sore my quad will be tomorrow from the injection.

[Lightsout2184]

keep it up. i like that prop idea. might try it myself

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

keep it up. i like that prop idea. might try it myself

yea i posted the idea in the Q&A section before i picked up the prop and a few people said theyve done it with good results so i figured id give it a go. plus im probably gonna do prop for my next cycle so i wanna see if it lives up to its reputation of being a bitch to shoot ED

[Edward88]

Damn Man.. great job on the log.. You can really see your gains.. and you detail on it all .. helps fills in the mental gaps i have of it.. thanks.. and keep it up .. you help motivate

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

Damn Man.. great job on the log.. You can really see your gains.. and you detail on it all .. helps fills in the mental gaps i have of it.. thanks.. and keep it up .. you help motivate

thanks man glad I can help motivate

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

workout fukking sucked today, not enough sleep, was out all night and had to wake up early to eat brunch with my fam for mothers day... thought there would be good food there so i could get some nutrition in me before the gym, of course there was a bunch of crap food and the closest thing to something tolerable was deviled eggs... so i ate like 10 of em and shortly after headed to the gym... ugh no energy, strength was OK but not great, and just felt overall shitty... i really wanna hit chest again i feel like i wasted my workout, but i dont wanna overtrain either... guess ill have to suck it up

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

im gonna switch up my routine again, im tired of working out chest on sunday, i always seem to not get enough sleep saturday night so maybe itll help my progress...

sun back
mon chest abs
tues off
wed legs
thurs bi's tri's
fri shoulders abs

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

workout was ok today, energy was there strength a little lacking but nothing too bad, about the same as last week. i wish i could get more than 8 hrs of sleep a night, 10 seems to be my sweetspot, i have the most energy and strength by a longshot when i get 10 hrs... i think i need a little more sleep than most people being as im extremely active with my physical job.. or maybe im just a lazy ass and love to sleep.. who knows, but its already hard enough to get 8 let alone more.

[Lightsout2184]

workout was ok today, energy was there strength a little lacking but nothing too bad, about the same as last week. i wish i could get more than 8 hrs of sleep a night, 10 seems to be my sweetspot, i have the most energy and strength by a longshot when i get 10 hrs... i think i need a little more sleep than most people being as im extremely active with my physical job.. or maybe im just a lazy ass and love to sleep.. who knows, but its already hard enough to get 8 let alone more.

yeah i have been the same way. if i get 8 i seem to still be tired

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

yeah i have been the same way. if i get 8 i seem to still be tired

yea it sucks doesn't it... I already go to sleep at 10 and have basically no life until the weekend (which is crap anyway b/c I work 6 days a week) I don't think I can make it to bed any earlier

[yotafool]

what are you weighing now?

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

what are you weighing now?

not sure, ill get on the scale tomorrow morning (whenever i weigh myself its in the morning before i eat anything) and see where im at


workout wasnt too great today, i dont think i like the whole cutting out some sets because of overtraining idea that a trainer gave me... i def lost strength doing less sets, so fukk that.. back to my norm... was working out well anyway the way i had it, "if its not broken dont fix it"....... so so so true