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[Ronnie Rowland]

At what level of experience would you suggest someone use this style of training and cycling? Would this be benificial for all? or would it more or less be more usefull for experienced pros?

By the looks of it your basically always "ON" and bridging your cycles as opposed to cycling and then PCT. Is that correct?

This approach works for all levels of experience and it's beneficial to all.

You have the option of doing do either a pct during deloads or a bridge.

Slingshot Training is set up to accomodate everyone!!!

[aldemoro]

make this a sticky

[starkiller]

Very good knowledge.

Thanks

[BennyLom]

Is this a product? If not, at least the terminology used is not just "productified", but also somewhat confusing. At least for a non native English speaker.

I'd appreciate if the information was a bit more concise and to the point but also if it would consider that, most people do not spend 365 days a year (minus the "Deloads") on AAS. For example, if only one cycle is intended per year, how does the STS apply? Do you run it the exact same way or is it a constant "Reload"?

Can you clarify your terminology:
Reload = During AAS cycle?
Deload = Off cycle or during PCT?
Blast = I'm guessing this infers the full program (Reload/Deload) but I'm not sure...

[Ronnie Rowland]

is this a product? If not, at least the terminology used is not just "productified", but also somewhat confusing. At least for a non native english speaker.

I'd appreciate if the information was a bit more concise and to the point but also if it would consider that, most people do not spend 365 days a year (minus the "deloads") on aas. For example, if only one cycle is intended per year, how does the sts apply? Do you run it the exact same way or is it a constant "reload"? you would run it the same way minus the anabolics. Simply cut back training volume and protein intake during deloads!

can you clarify your terminology:
reload = during aas cycle? yes
deload = off cycle or during pct? can be off cycle, pct or during a bridge (using much lower amounts of steroids)[
b]blast[/b] = i'm guessing this infers the full program (reload/deload) but i'm not sure...yes! The blast consist of reloading and deloading

answers above in caps.

[marcus300]

Ronnie, make this a stickie in this section, some excellent information for everyone to learn from.

Stickie approved.......

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie, make this a stickie in this section, some excellent information for everyone to learn from.

Stickie approved.......

Will do Marcus..Thank you!

[elpropiotorvic]

Hey thanks for the clarification... But only pros do this 365 right? ( on aas)

[Chev]

Great read!! This site and people have so much good info.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey thanks for the clarification... But only pros do this 365 right? ( on aas)

A lot of recreational and lower level competitive bodybuilders that stay on pretty much year round. Especially those on HRT.

[Critical Mass]

Myostatin increases after 8 weeks. Thats why you stop gaining.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Myostatin increases after 8 weeks. Thats why you stop gaining.

This is certainly a possibility. Here's an article off of pubmed explaining why gains stop after 8 weeks!


The following may be the answer as this article on myostatin (a powerful muscle growth inhibitor) shows that after 8 weeks on Testoterone, myostatin levels rise significantly. When you stop the testosterone, myostatin levels go back to normal.

Measurement of myostatin concentrations in human serum: Circulating concentrations in young and older men and effects of testosterone administration.

Lakshman KM, Bhasin S, Corcoran C, Collins-Racie LA, Tchistiakova L, Forlow SB, St Ledger K, Burczynski ME, Dorner AJ, Lavallie ER.
Section of Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Nutrition, Boston University School of Medicine, Boston Medical Center, 670 Albany Street, Boston, MA 02118, United States.
Methodological problems, including binding of myostatin to plasma proteins and cross-reactivity of assay reagents with other proteins, have confounded myostatin measurements. Here we describe development of an accurate assay for measuring myostatin concentrations in humans. Monoclonal antibodies that bind to distinct regions of myostatin served as capture and detector antibodies in a sandwich ELISA that used acid treatment to dissociate myostatin from binding proteins. Serum from myostatin-deficient Belgian Blue cattle was used as matrix and recombinant human myostatin as standard. The quantitative range was 0.15-37.50 ng/mL. Intra- and inter-assay CVs in low, mid, and high range were 4.1%, 4.7%, and 7.2%, and 3.9%, 1.6%, and 5.2%, respectively. Myostatin protein was undetectable in sera of Belgian Blue cattle and myostatin knockout mice. Recovery in spiked sera approximated 100%. ActRIIB-Fc or anti-myostatin antibody MYO-029 had no effect on myostatin measurements when assayed at pH 2.5. Myostatin levels were higher in young than older men (mean+/-S.E.M. 8.0+/-0.3 ng/mL vs. 7.0+/-0.4 ng/mL, P=0.03). In men treated with graded doses of testosterone, myostatin levels were significantly higher on day 56 than baseline in both young and older men; changes in myostatin levels were significantly correlated with changes in total and free testosterone in young men. Myostatin levels were not significantly associated with lean body mass in either young or older men. CONCLUSION: Myostatin ELISA has the characteristics of a valid assay: nearly 100% recovery, excellent precision, accuracy, and sufficient sensitivity to enable measurement of myostatin concentrations in men and women.
PMID: 19356623 [PubMed - in process]
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[NJones]

This article was very informative and made me realize that im way off. This is slightly off topic but I am very new and uninformed on steroids and how to stack them with other supplements. Can you recommend something to me based on your 8 week and 2 week theory? Also I am concerned about my diet. I am trying to balance losing body fat and at the same time not sacrifice gains and muscle mass. Im 210 lbs and Im not sure what my carb, fat, and calorie intake should be daily approx.

[Ronnie Rowland]

This article was very informative and made me realize that im way off. This is slightly off topic but I am very new and uninformed on steroids and how to stack them with other supplements. Can you recommend something to me based on your 8 week and 2 week theory? Also I am concerned about my diet. I am trying to balance losing body fat and at the same time not sacrifice gains and muscle mass. Im 210 lbs and Im not sure what my carb, fat, and calorie intake should be daily approx.

I would do a beginners 20 week cycle if it's your first time using.

Weeks 1-8 (500 mgs of test per week)
Weeks 9-10 (250 mgs of test per week)
Weeks 11-18 (750 mgs of test per week)
Weeks 19-20 (250 mgs of test per week)
Week 21 begin PCT

No one can tell you how many calories to take in daily as it's different for diffeernt people. Keep carb intake around 200, Protein around 350 and fats around 75 and see how that works..

[zunair]

Hey i started my cycle two weeks ago using 500 mg testovrion and 200 mg deca per week...im feelng kidney pain on the right...my kidney test was alright ...the creatinine level the uric acid and the urea level n the test was alright...doctor says steroid cause can incraese the creatinine level but its fine...he said ur urea is 33 and its maximum level shud be 45 so drink more water and awl.can anyone plz tellme how to get rid of this pain...im alread drinking 6 litres water per day

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey i started my cycle two weeks ago using 500 mg testovrion and 200 mg deca per week...im feelng kidney pain on the right...my kidney test was alright ...the creatinine level the uric acid and the urea level n the test was alright...doctor says steroid cause can incraese the creatinine level but its fine...he said ur urea is 33 and its maximum level shud be 45 so drink more water and awl.can anyone plz tellme how to get rid of this pain...im alread drinking 6 litres water per day

Are you dieting down or taking anti-es or any other meds/supplements with the test/deca? How much protein are you taking in per day?

Test/deca should not cause kidney pain. It almost sounds like a possible kidney stone but probably just muscle pain!

[VASCULAR VINCE]

Ronnie....you say to not change exercises during a reload.....yet continue pounding the same exercises over and over again....do anabolics work better when you do this????

[J_SHOCK89]

Hey guys over the summer I did a cycle of tren ace, test enan, eq, and in the last ten weeks for week 7-10 i threw in 100 mg of anadrol a day I am a lineman and i play football i recieved major strength and size gains especially hard bulk but i didnt gain any wieght my body fat was 22 now its 18 and i have been off for 10 weeks so i started a new one this week im running the same thing but instead at 5 weeks im goin to run anadrol 50 mgs a day for more weight gain one thing i wanna know is what i could throw into my cycle to give me more mass lean mass im 280 i would like to be 305 any suggestions guys

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey guys over the summer I did a cycle of tren ace, test enan, eq, and in the last ten weeks for week 7-10 i threw in 100 mg of anadrol a day I am a lineman and i play football i recieved major strength and size gains especially hard bulk but i didnt gain any wieght my body fat was 22 now its 18 and i have been off for 10 weeks so i started a new one this week im running the same thing but instead at 5 weeks im goin to run anadrol 50 mgs a day for more weight gain one thing i wanna know is what i could throw into my cycle to give me more mass lean mass im 280 i would like to be 305 any suggestions guys

The answer you are looking for is- consume more calories from protein and healthy fats!

[J_SHOCK89]

thanks with my wieght being 280 how many grams of protein should I consume and what would you consider healthy fats

[Rocket man]

hey guys. i just wanted to know if you guys could help me out here.
i want to go on a deca and d bol course.. must i take the deca while i am on my d bol course? how many mg do you suggest i take of the deca per day or week and when should i take it throughout the week?

i have 10mg d bol tabs but how many should i take on my off days and do you guys think taking my tabs in the pyrimid method is a good way or could you suggest me any better ways of taking them.

i am thinking of going on a 4-5 week d bol course but i just need to know if i must take my deca during those weeks aswell??

do you guys think i should do dbol and deca or would d bol and sus give me better results??

thanx guys.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

Ronnie..just want to say thanks so much..this thread contains the most usable knowledge on the net...woo hoo...~~~~

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie..just want to say thanks so much..this thread contains the most usable knowledge on the net...woo hoo...~~~~

I truly appreciate the kind words VINCE. I am glad to be of help.

[Ronnie Rowland]

i just wanted to know if you could help me out here.
I want to go on a deca and d bol course.. Must i take the deca while i am on my d bol course? no how many mg do you suggest i take of the deca per day or week and when should i take it throughout the week? 400 mgs split into two weekly injections
i have 10mg d bol tabs but how many should i
on my off days and do you guys think taking my tabs in the pyrimid method is a good way or could you suggest me any better ways of taking them. use the same dosage every day
i am thinking of going on a 4-5 week d bol course but i just need to know if i must take my deca during those weeks aswell??no

do you guys think i should do dbol and deca or would d bol and sus give me better results?? I would not recommend running d-bol or deca without test.

Thanx guys.

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[Hate Being Small]

great post ronnie very knowlegable

[bubba373]

whats better

[Ronnie Rowland]

whats better

injection

[tarzan911]

I am new to this, I am going to try Ronnie's reload and deload. I'm going to try Test Cyp. along with Dbol and was thinking of taking Nolvadex. Is this ok or a good start?

[Ronnie Rowland]

I am new to this, I am going to try Ronnie's reload and deload. I'm going to try Test Cyp. along with Dbol and was thinking of taking Nolvadex. Is this ok or a good start?

If it's only your first or second cycle you may wish to stick to only test during first 8 week reload then run d-bol along with test throughout entire 2nd 8 week reload..

NOTE: DO NOT USE NOLVADEX. I WOULD GO WITH AROMASIN IF ANTI-ES ARE IN FACT NEEDED!

[joe11]

Hi Ronnie,

I ve started 2 weeks ago a cycle , for the first time, consists of :
1-DEXXA 250 , 1ML each injection .
2-Testo depot , 1ML each injection .
3-Sustanon 250, 1ML each injection .

Please note it s my first time in this field and in my town info about cycles are really limited and perhaps primitive .

Could you please inform me how best I could use above 3 , is it Ok to use them together ( Dexxa first day, testo depot second day and sustanon 3 rd day without interruption) ?
My aim is to add some muscle mass but not to become very bulcky.
Thank you indeed for your time.
Regards,
Joe

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ronnie,

I ve started 2 weeks ago a cycle , for the first time, consists of :
1-DEXXA 250 , 1ML each injection .
2-Testo depot , 1ML each injection .
3-Sustanon 250, 1ML each injection .

Please note it s my first time in this field and in my town info about cycles are really limited and perhaps primitive .

Could you please inform me how best I could use above 3 , is it Ok to use them together ( Dexxa first day, testo depot second day and sustanon 3 rd day without interruption) ? Sustanon needs to be injected 2-3 times weekly, test depot can be injected once and deca once. Inject 1cc of sustanon and 1 cc of deca in same syringe on monday and 1 cc of test depot and 1 cc of sustanon in same syringe on friday. Thats two shots a week with each syringe containing 2cc of anabolics. Run for 8 weeks then switch to only 1 cc of test depot per week for 2 week deload then repeat protocol (20 weeks total) then consider a full pct. Read through this thread from the beginning and it will tell you most everything you need to know.
My aim is to add some muscle mass but not to become very bulcky. Diet mostly determines the outcome!Thank you indeed for your time.
Regards,
Joe

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ronnie,

I ve started 2 weeks ago a cycle , for the first time, consists of :
1-DEXXA 250 , 1ML each injection .
2-Testo depot , 1ML each injection .
3-Sustanon 250, 1ML each injection .

Please note it s my first time in this field and in my town info about cycles are really limited and perhaps primitive .

Could you please inform me how best I could use above 3 , is it Ok to use them together ( Dexxa first day, testo depot second day and sustanon 3 rd day without interruption) ? Sustanon needs to be injected 2-3 times weekly, test depot can be injected once and deca once. Inject 1cc of sustanon and 1 cc of deca in same syringe on monday and 1 cc of test depot and 1 cc of sustanon in same syringe on friday. Thats two shots a week with each syringe containing 2cc of anabolics. Run for 8 weeks then switch to only 1 cc of test depot per week for 2 week deload then repeat protocol (20 weeks total) then consider a full pct. Read through this thread from the beginning and it will tell you most everything you need to know.
My aim is to add some muscle mass but not to become very bulcky. Diet mostly determines the outcome!Thank you indeed for your time.
Regards,
Joe

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[songdog]

Ronnie this is a great routine.I love it.Going on 1 month now never did a BB routine only powerlifer stuff.I can feel the difference.At 51 and still gettin it on

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie this is a great routine.I love it.Going on 1 month now never did a BB routine only powerlifer stuff.I can feel the difference.At 51 and still gettin it on

Thanks for sharing. Just goes to show you us older guys can stay after it.

[bumblebee_tuna666]

what are your thoughts on Test 400 by Denkall? i have heard some good stuff about this shit. what would you suggest i stack the Test 400 with the great the best mass and muscle gains? thanks big guy

[Booz]

what are your thoughts on Test 400 by Denkall? i have heard some good stuff about this shit. what would you suggest i stack the Test 400 with the great the best mass and muscle gains? thanks big guy

worst stuff ive ever injected mate...............

stings like a bitch...............

[justntat2z]

worst stuff ive ever injected mate...............

stings like a bitch...............

I strongly agree with that statement...JUNK..!:you can get better from Denkall or super test 250 made by Tornel.

[Ronnie Rowland]

what are your thoughts on test 400 by denkall? too painful post injection imo. It can cause lumps and abcesses. I have heard some good stuff about this shit. It works but not worth the post injection pain for many. What would you suggest i stack the test 400 with the great the best mass and muscle gains? tren and d-bol or deca and d-bol works great with test for making nice gains in size/strength. thanks big guy

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[chrisx]

Hey Ronnie is it ok to take Creatine while blasting?? I'm all natural now but I seem to get good results with NO xplode and Cellmass which is why I'm asking. Sorry if you have already covered this but I have read every post up to p. 13 and have yet to run into it. Thanx bro your the damn best for helping us all out

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie is it ok to take creatine while blasting?? yes you can use creatine but it's not needed if taking steroids as cp levels are pretty much maxed out at that point i'm all natural now but i seem to get good results with no xplode and cellmass which is why i'm asking. Sorry if you have already covered this but i have read every post up to p. 13 and have yet to run into it. Thanx bro your the damn best for helping us all out

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