3 guys 1 hammer

[Flagg]

fk i do, ,someone send me that thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs

Read that article first, THEN tell me if they deserve to have that sort of shit viewed.

This is too much. These evil little cvnts even admit on their videos how they went to the funerals of some of the victims. They need to die. Simple as that.

[chuckt12345]

yea i watched it and wished i didnt,, truly disturbing to think that a human is capable of that

[jccnewbie]

The greatest punishment for people like this is to kill them in the manner that they killed their victims. There would be a lot less crime in the world.

[chuckt12345]

im thnkn theyll get theres in a ukraine prison,, you have half the fkn country wanting there blood and im sure the prisoners will get the message from outside

[MASTER]

I wont watch it, because that is what they want, and they don't even deserve to be acknowledged at all. There are some truly sick people out there, and I really cant understand why.

[Monster87]

WTF... This shit makes those Muslim beheading videos look like disney...
For these sick fvcks, theres really no punishment thats good enough.

[xnotoriousx]

I will not be watching that bullshit... It does nothing for me to see the scum of the earth at work.

[Deltasaurus]

delete this thread admin plz

[DSM4Life]

wow.

[Bojangles69]

I would also like to note that it becomes hypocritical when people start posting crap like "omg what kind of evil could commit such an act" and those same people go watch the fvckn video.

I hate to break it to you, but that morbid obsession that drove you to watch the video, is very closely related to the forces that led to the creation of that video. Think about it, the SAME way you're watching it and thinking "thats some messed up shit" people are watching you watch the videos and thinking "thats some messed up shit".

I'll admit I still am extremely tempted to watch the video, but I've also been tempted to do many other things in my life that I haven't done. And out of respect for the man on that video that noone most likely really knows or gives a shit about, HE is the reason I still haven't seen it. Cause there is no greater way to spit on the graves of the dead, then to have their death broadcasted and played for the world to see over and over and over.

Then WE have the nerve to call these guys sickos? Are you serious? We're no better then them cause look how all you eat this shit up. I'm not saying I'm better then anyone cause I haven't watched it yet, I'm saying sometimes its hard to resist temptation but you WILL feel better overall not giving into that human desire to see what true evil looks like.

[Deltasaurus]

I would also like to note that it becomes hypocritical when people start posting crap like "omg what kind of evil could commit such an act" and those same people go watch the fvckn video.

I hate to break it to you, but that morbid obsession that drove you to watch the video, is very closely related to the forces that led to the creation of that video. Think about it, the SAME way you're watching it and thinking "thats some messed up shit" people are watching you watch the videos and thinking "thats some messed up shit".

I'll admit I still am extremely tempted to watch the video, but I've also been tempted to do many other things in my life that I haven't done. And out of respect for the man on that video that noone most likely really knows or gives a shit about, HE is the reason I still haven't seen it. Cause there is no greater way to spit on the graves of the dead, then to have their death broadcasted and played for the world to see over and over and over.

Then WE have the nerve to call these guys sickos? Are you serious? We're no better then them cause look how all you eat this shit up. I'm not saying I'm better then anyone cause I haven't watched it yet, I'm saying sometimes its hard to resist temptation but you WILL feel better overall not giving into that human desire to see what true evil looks like.

x2 agreed 100%

[chuckt12345]

I would also like to note that it becomes hypocritical when people start posting crap like "omg what kind of evil could commit such an act" and those same people go watch the fvckn video.

I hate to break it to you, but that morbid obsession that drove you to watch the video, is very closely related to the forces that led to the creation of that video. Think about it, the SAME way you're watching it and thinking "thats some messed up shit" people are watching you watch the videos and thinking "thats some messed up shit".

I'll admit I still am extremely tempted to watch the video, but I've also been tempted to do many other things in my life that I haven't done. And out of respect for the man on that video that noone most likely really knows or gives a shit about, HE is the reason I still haven't seen it. Cause there is no greater way to spit on the graves of the dead, then to have their death broadcasted and played for the world to see over and over and over.

Then WE have the nerve to call these guys sickos? Are you serious? We're no better then them cause look how all you eat this shit up. I'm not saying I'm better then anyone cause I haven't watched it yet, I'm saying sometimes its hard to resist temptation but you WILL feel better overall not giving into that human desire to see what true evil looks like.

So my curiosity to watch a video gives you the right to compare me to these people? yes these guys are fkn sickos and abominations of what we call humans and you comparing the curious nature of a man to watch this video to the people who actually made this as the same is down right retarded.

[dangerous dan]

yea i watched but, know where your coming from, this shouldnt have been posted up for us in the 1st place, i wondered if it was fake. And believe it could very well be fake, you will find that was so easy to find via the net, real vids arent usually broadcasted so easily. And to be honest i hope it is fake. i heard the face was latex and flashed about years ago. Anyhow i dont want to sound ignorant on the matter, so ill leave it at that

[Bojangles69]

yea i watched but, know where your coming from, this shouldnt have been posted up for us in the 1st place, i wondered if it was fake. And believe it could very well be fake, you will find that was so easy to find via the net, real vids arent usually broadcasted so easily. And to be honest i hope it is fake. i heard the face was latex and flashed about years ago. Anyhow i dont want to sound ignorant on the matter, so ill leave it at that

Maybe you haven't read the fact that this video was used as evidence in their trial? It was okd by the judge as evidence against them. So I guarantee theres nothing fake about it.

Some vids are taken off the net, like that one guy who did a back flip on his bike and snapped his neck, but it has to be done quick and you need money, not to mention theres international factors at play. Like the fact this vid was first leaked out of Ukraine and into the states, makes it much harder to control when its done what way.

[jccnewbie]

I think that everyone should watch it. There are way to many people out there that are sheltered from the morbid realities of life and human nature. People need to have a wake up call to realize that life isnt all about what society has pulled over our eyes about what is and is not what we should or shouldn't do.

I make sure to watch shit like this so I can refresh myself with the reality that the next person I look at work, on the bus, in the store or wherever has the potential of being just like these freaks or maybe already is.

If anything would ever happen where someone I know or myself could end up in a situatuation that could be life threataning, it may not be our life that is lost.

These people are victims because they have been blinded by the reality that these things don't happen when obviously, they do.

Yes it made me sick to watch it, yes I watched as much as I could tollerate, not in direspect to the dead by any means. Every person should feel that same sickness from time to time. Maybe if we all made sure of that there would be less bullshit out there in the world with people letting there kids get away with whatever they want.

Maybe people will actually realize how important parenting and dicipline is. Maybe people would realize that calling child protective services when they see someone spank their child is really just empowering that child to become a selfish person who feels their own life is more valuble than anyone elses.

watch it, get sick, get pissed, most of all.... learn from it.

[dangerous dan]

just cant understand why its on the net if it really has been used as evidence

[Bojangles69]

just cant understand why its on the net if it really has been used as evidence

Well if the kids who did it leaked it then that would explain it.
Cause the video didnt show up in court till about a year after it was made.

This would mean it was released to the net, maybe noone had any idea what it really was, and then the connection was made by the prosecutors (who were the ones to originally shock the courts with it). But however it happened, if it went public before trial, this vid could be saved on the harddrives of thousands of peoples computers. And everytime it gets taken down its just put up again.

So perhaps they stopped fighting it after a while. Just a guess.

[dangerous dan]

Well if the kids who did it leaked it then that would explain it.
Cause the video didnt show up in court till about a year after it was made.

This would mean it was released to the net, maybe noone had any idea what it really was, and then the connection was made by the prosecutors (who were the ones to originally shock the courts with it). But however it happened, if it went public before trial, this vid could be saved on the harddrives of thousands of peoples computers. And everytime it gets taken down its just put up again.

So perhaps they stopped fighting it after a while. Just a guess.

yea maybe your right, i think i just wanted to believe it wasnt real.
I wouldnt dream of posting this up on an open board, but then again we were stupid for showing so much interest in watching.

my thoughts go out to the families to the inocent. the read of it makes it disgusting how they ''singled out people that wouldnt fight back''.

[Flagg]

The title of this thread is a bit misleading, and to be honest it should be renamed: Dnepropetrovsk maniacs, and moved to the News Thread.

The whole motive of these acts was a perverse sense of power. Again I say dump them in the middle of the jungle with nothing to their name and reintroduce them to the food chain. It's not murder, its true survival of the fittest, and you're helping a carnivore survive for a few days longer.

Sounds like win win to me.

[Monster87]

The title of this thread is a bit misleading, and to be honest it should be renamed: Dnepropetrovsk maniacs, and moved to the News Thread.

The whole motive of these acts was a perverse sense of power. Again I say dump them in the middle of the jungle with nothing to their name and reintroduce them to the food chain. It's not murder, its true survival of the fittest, and you're helping a carnivore survive for a few days longer.

Sounds like win win to me.

Agreed. So ****ing unsatisfying they only got life in prison. One of them got away with just nine years

[Deltasaurus]

so is the erin andrews tape and that is evidence

[Monster87]

Also, whats up with the casual, innocuous title; "3 guys 1 hammer"? Makes it sound like it's just another depraved 2 girls 1 cup spin-off. In my opinion, unbelievably disrespectful.

[Deltasaurus]

Also, whats up with the casual, innocuous title; "3 guys 1 hammer"? Makes it sound like it's just another depraved 2 girls 1 cup spin-off. In my opinion, unbelievably disrespectful.

thats what i though it was when i clicked it

[higherdesire]

Also, whats up with the casual, innocuous title; "3 guys 1 hammer"? Makes it sound like it's just another depraved 2 girls 1 cup spin-off. In my opinion, unbelievably disrespectful.

That is the name that the video comes under on google is most likely why it was named that. I do not think that by the ops posts that he is trying to make light of this but rather came here to get help with what he saw. It is a very disturbing video and it is something that some people mat need to talk about to get past. It could definitely lead to nightmares and phobias.

Just my .02

[higherdesire]

Bo it is not possible for the law to change once oyu have been convicted and the law affect you unless you are sentenced to death and they do away with the death penalty after you have been sentenced. So I dont know what you are talking about here. If you were sentenced under a certain legistlative session then you are bound by that. An example, I was sentenced under the 70th legislature which meant that since a weapon was involved, an aggravating circumstance, my parole eligibility was based of off doing 25% of my sentence flat (no good time earned). The law changed several times while I was in prison for the 9 years and 7 months, to where you had to do 50% but it had no bearing on me because of the law my crime was committed under and I was sentenced under.

Furthermore, I personally know people who had their death sentence commuted and now have life and are in population, and are some of the happiest people I know. Death row fvcks with your head like nothing else. Ernest Hemmingways "For Whom The Bell Tolls" syndrome so to speak. No way in hell I know anyone who would prefer death over life in prison. I was locked up with some famous people like David Brooks and Elmer Wayne Henley who I was on the same block with. Dennis Watson, Gregory Knighten, and many many more. No way they want death over life.

I dont know what kiddie park you were at brother but any seasoned vic doesnt fear time he embraces it and makes a life for himself. I got caught fvcking a guard in there, and yes it was a female smart ass! These guys need to be on death row with bare essentials. Johnnie sacks for all three meals, shower every three days and rec in a small room with only a pull up bar. Solid doors with only those sulfur yellow lamps they have in the hole. While they wait for their turn in the fvcking chair champ.

[Bojangles69]

I'm not gonna sit here and try to interpret the law cause I think even a lawyer might say "its not as simple" as you and me think.
But I do know we had this conversation several times and the 1 guy who had 14 years (for murder) was a paralegal and authority on the subject always spoke about changing laws.

The last thing I would ever suspect him to be was an idiot. And if inmates are released due to something as miminal as overpopulation, (even murderers are set free) I'm sure changes in law are often fought in court on an inmates behalf. Evenso, it was always on the topic of murder and whether you'd prefer life or death. Not lesser convictions like drugs.

And as far as "kiddie parks" it was a medium security prison, in leesburg NJ. Guys were commonly transfered there from Trenton State and Rahway, so yeh we could go microwave our food when we wanted, but you were still surrounded by murders/rapists, and as any "seasoned vic" would know, "kiddie camps" have reputations for being worse then most max facilities in terms of frequency of violence.

Younger inmates are always trying to get a name for themself, and when I WAS transfered from a true "kiddie camp" to an adult prison, the adult prison although more intimidating at first, felt MUCH safer towards the end. Throw me in an adult facility any day of the week over a kiddie camp, I'm serious.

Overall you did do much more time then me, but I saw guys who did 25 years and never even got into a single brawl. (what a quality problem it must be to get a blue sheet for fvckn a guard) For some reason everytime I was transferred some new shit was going on. And if I had to do 5 more years (if I maxed out) I didnt really see me "settling" into any sort of peaceful routine. When I went in I was 5'4" 145lbs, some white "rich" kid from the burbs, so I was the main object of torment by many poor unprivelaged gang members. I had no option but to tolerate it, and I WISH I could have "embraced" that whole experience.

I realize a large topic of talk for older inmates is how stupid the younger inmates are, and Ill admit I don't know shit about the law, but I think everyones experience in prison is drastically different from one person to another. You sound like you had a somewhat decent experience. But I would def describe mine more in terms of an all out "nightmare".

Bo it is not possible for the law to change once oyu have been convicted and the law affect you unless you are sentenced to death and they do away with the death penalty after you have been sentenced. So I dont know what you are talking about here. If you were sentenced under a certain legistlative session then you are bound by that. An example, I was sentenced under the 70th legislature which meant that since a weapon was involved, an aggravating circumstance, my parole eligibility was based of off doing 25% of my sentence flat (no good time earned). The law changed several times while I was in prison for the 9 years and 7 months, to where you had to do 50% but it had no bearing on me because of the law my crime was committed under and I was sentenced under.

Furthermore, I personally know people who had their death sentence commuted and now have life and are in population, and are some of the happiest people I know. Death row fvcks with your head like nothing else. Ernest Hemmingways "For Whom The Bell Tolls" syndrome so to speak. No way in hell I know anyone who would prefer death over life in prison. I was locked up with some famous people like David Brooks and Elmer Wayne Henley who I was on the same block with. Dennis Watson, Gregory Knighten, and many many more. No way they want death over life.

I dont know what kiddie park you were at brother but any seasoned vic doesnt fear time he embraces it and makes a life for himself. I got caught fvcking a guard in there, and yes it was a female smart ass! These guys need to be on death row with bare essentials. Johnnie sacks for all three meals, shower every three days and rec in a small room with only a pull up bar. Solid doors with only those sulfur yellow lamps they have in the hole. While they wait for their turn in the fvcking chair champ.

[higherdesire]

Bo thanks for the reply. I get a lot of what you are saying. My experiences landed me in ad seg for a long stint. I had to do 4 years and 7 months longer because i got set off for violent offenses committed in my first couple of years. i did eventually get off of close custody and gain trustee status towards the end of my sentence and things were different. It is difficult for the smaller guys to make it unless they are crazy enough to and sometimes they cant turn it off after they get out so I commend you on taking the dark path, and on your candid response to my post. Peace brother.

[Bojangles69]

Bo thanks for the reply. I get a lot of what you are saying. My experiences landed me in ad seg for a long stint. I had to do 4 years and 7 months longer because i got set off for violent offenses committed in my first couple of years. i did eventually get off of close custody and gain trustee status towards the end of my sentence and things were different. It is difficult for the smaller guys to make it unless they are crazy enough to and sometimes they cant turn it off after they get out so I commend you on taking the dark path, and on your candid response to my post. Peace brother.

Absolutely.
I secretly despised most guys in prison who were bigger then me (and most of them were) for the fact that a lot of threats I had to deal with on a day to day basis just weren't real or comprehensible to them.

But ad seg is a whole nother world I've only heard horror stories about. I could barely do 9 days in lock up never mind endless months/years in ad seg. That shit would have broke me I'm sure, and I prob would have found a way to "embrace" my time after that, so I completely understand what you're saying brotha.

[chuckt12345]

"I'll admit I still am extremely tempted to watch the video, but I've also been tempted to do many other things in my life that I haven't done."

yea and thats why you havent gone to jail?

[dangerous dan]

"I'll admit I still am extremely tempted to watch the video, but I've also been tempted to do many other things in my life that I haven't done."

yea and thats why you havent gone to jail?

lol chucky that was abit of a shit post....the thread was dead and gone