My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[Ericdock]

Awsome info thanks

[P0RK CH0P]

Excuse me if I missed this part but...

Why Clomid and Nolva both for PCT?

[austinite]

Excuse me if I missed this part but...

Why Clomid and Nolva both for PCT?

Nolva boosts the effects of clomid because it puts clomid into "competition" mode where they both fight for a receptor to bind to. This competitiveness will ONLY happen with the presence of BOTH compounds and will inevitably resolve the issue of excess estrogen in the Hypothalamus, so that GnRH is released properly and the pituitary responds by releasing gonadotropins. This will trigger both LH and FSH to crank UP, as the high estrogen in this cluster is suppressive.

Can you recover with just one, yes. Possible. But chances are much better with both.

[aestheticsLove]

A good read with a lot of useful information.. Thx!

[Dolly]

And u wouldn't believe it. I just read the post about clomid and nolvadex

Haha.

[sammyc]

Hey I'm new to the site and I'm here doing research because I've been thinking about taking some anabolics to help me lose some weight and get cut and stronger. Yes I read the part about age but I've had x-rays done and my doctors has told me that I'm pretty much down growing. I'm 18 6'3 in February 2013 I tipped the scale at 290lbs and have been dieting and exercising and changing things up every few weeks and now I'm at 250lbs and I can't seem to go any down anymore. I'm currently taking supplements (all natural stuff like coffee bean extract etc.), multivitamins, and hydroxycut extreme. What do you guys suggest I do and do you think it'll be a good choice to start a cycle or should I stick to dieting and exercising. BTW I'm not all fat, besides the man boobs lol, I'm an athletic big guy. I played football in high school and i run 1.5m in 14 mins flat.

[austinite]

Hey I'm new to the site and I'm here doing research because I've been thinking about taking some anabolics to help me lose some weight and get cut and stronger. Yes I read the part about age but I've had x-rays done and my doctors has told me that I'm pretty much down growing. I'm 18 6'3 in February 2013 I tipped the scale at 290lbs and have been dieting and exercising and changing things up every few weeks and now I'm at 250lbs and I can't seem to go any down anymore. I'm currently taking supplements (all natural stuff like coffee bean extract etc.), multivitamins, and hydroxycut extreme. What do you guys suggest I do and do you think it'll be a good choice to start a cycle or should I stick to dieting and exercising. BTW I'm not all fat, besides the man boobs lol, I'm an athletic big guy. I played football in high school and i run 1.5m in 14 mins flat.

Hit the nutrition section 1st brother. They can help you. Even if your xrays indicate you've grown, your endocrine system is not completely matured. I do not recommend steroids at all.

[sagittarius]

Austinite, I tried to estimate the TDEE using your method and the result is different compared with other methods.

My stats:
Height: 5 ft 10 in
Weight: 173 lbs
Age: 31
Body fat: around 10-12%

If I calculate using your formula I get: TDEE = (174 - 174 x 0.12) x 15 = 2297

If I use the Harris Benedict Equation I get:

BMR (Basal metabolic rate) = 1822
TDEE = 1822 x 1.725 (very active) = 3142

TDEE calculator:
Harris Benedict Equation

It seems that your method does not take into account the activity factor. I think I'm very active, I do weight training 1.5h x 6 days, biking/hiking/running/walking 15-20 hours a week (at least during the summer). How can I include these factors into your method for calculating the TDEE?

Thanks!

[Rahjah]

Hi Austinite, I am a female and my first use I am considering beginning with clen, I do workout regularly.
my question is does this work for fat loss and building muscle? how much of a dosage should be used for a woman 5'9 185lbs.

[Docd187123]

Hi Austinite, I am a female and my first use I am considering beginning with clen, I do workout regularly.
my question is does this work for fat loss and building muscle? how much of a dosage should be used for a woman 5'9 185lbs.

I'm not Austinite but I'll throw my 2cents in:

With those stats I would concentrate on diet and training first and foremost. All the clen in the world won't make you lose weight if diet isn't conducive to weight/fat loss. Diet is the single most important factor in cutting fat and using clen at this point won't help you anymore than good macros and eating a hypocaloric intake. Plus, clen will add extra stress to your heart and being overweight already stresses the heart. I suggest making a thread in the diet section with your full stats (age height, weight, TDEE/BMR) and have a sample diet proposal for critique

[Saleem.fr]

I want to know if i will do only one then do nothing no cycle or nothing is it ok or not
and what is better first gaining mass or losing body fat. Right now i have 75kg of bodyweight with about 10-12% of body fat what should i do first gaining mass or losing more fat what's better
and thankyou for posting this awesome thread

[austinite]

I want to know if i will do only one then do nothing no cycle or nothing is it ok or not

That's for you to determine, Saleem. There is no way to determine if one cycle will affect you negatively or not.

But no one does one cycle. No matter how determined you are

[Badgers]

Dear austinite,

I´m getting blood work done, i have a couple of cycles under my belt with test E 5-600 mgs with a nova only PCT. Is there any other things you would check besides these?:

1. Testosterone, Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)

[austinite]

Dear austinite,

I´m getting blood work done, i have a couple of cycles under my belt with test E 5-600 mgs with a nova only PCT. Is there any other things you would check besides these?:

1. Testosterone, Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)

Well this is the 'First Cycle' thread. Might want to start another so we stay on topic, brother. Also blood work depends on the cycle so be sure to mention what you plan to cycle, how long, list your stats, etc...

[Banan182]

Hello! I want to take this cycle first,

but i want to add one more sterod, danabol!
When and how much i can add him (danabol)?
And what else i must to add in my course, or of this enough ?

[austinite]

Hello! I want to take this cycle first,

but i want to add one more sterod, danabol!
When and how much i can add him (danabol)?
And what else i must to add in my course, or of this enough ?

I do not recommend anything other than test. If you do not wish to follow my recommendation, no problem, just start a new thread to get opinions.

[EVIN]

wow, this was my first read as a new user.
QUESTION THOUGH; where the hell do i buy this?

[barymycoginher]

whats the Liquid AR-R dosage for their nova and clomid if you dont mind?

[base4291ball]

whats the Liquid AR-R dosage for their nova and clomid if you dont mind?

It says online how many ml is in the bottle and how many mg/mL the dosage is.

[austinite]

whats the Liquid AR-R dosage for their nova and clomid if you dont mind?

Read the label. It's listed on it how much per ML.

[Scizzy]

Cool, this really answer to my questions. Great that someone has knowledge and puts on time and effort to lay out everything to us that are stupid or lazy...

-Scizzy-

[xjay1234]

it should be fine!

[Bpowell]

Wow answers alot of question sure I will read again may have more ? For you

[xraytech]

Hey Aust,

Just read ur thread on first cycle, its very informative. As a matter of fact I just ordered synephedrine. I just have question, i dont want to bulk, instead I would like to start coming down, is the protocol the same?? This would be my first time on any gear, Im 33yrs old been training for over 12yrs, and competed naturally for 4yrs, just want to go to the next level with my body. Im 6'4 245- 248lbs off season, 218-220lbs stage weight. If you have time, you can type( Ricardo Defrank DFAC heavyweight class) on youtube to see my stats. Thanks, i appreciate the help!!

[TrevHoff]

Austinite,

With reference to:

- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)

Both are being injected every 3.5 days, is this on the SAME day or off set on DIFFERENT days?

What do you recommend?

[Walkman13]

Austinite, great post. Learned a lot just by reading.

Ok so I wanna do my first ever cycle, but as on right now I don't think I'm quite ready. I am 38 years old 5'11" and 225 lbs. I am about 25% bf so I would need to lose at least 10% before I would consider starting my cycle. My calculations would mean that I'd have to cut down to approx. 200 to be in the 15% range.
My TDEE is about 2500, so on my cycle I'd like to run at about a 300 cal surplus. I have been training since I was about 16 years old, but I haven't been in the gym for about a year. I just got back in about a month ago, and I can feel the muscle memory kicking in. I believe I do have a solid foundation to work on.
My cycle:
I would like to run Test 500mg/week 250mg mon and again on Thursday for 12 weeks
HCG from day 1
Arimidex 0.25mg/day from day 1
Also would run nac for liver protection.
I'm hoping this cycle works well. I do have realistic expectations and I have decent genetics so I could see some decent results.
Please let me know if all is good or are there any changes to
Consider.
Couple of questions
1. My general practitioner is where I'll go for blood work. Known the guy for years. Will he know what's up when I start asking him what to check for on blood work?
2. Can a regular doctor prescribe the test to me?
3. Would he prescribe the test even if my blood work comes back saying I have normal test? FYI he did prescribe Test to another friend of mine and he just went to pharmacy and got it. Took it back to dr and he administered the shot. Every 10 days.
4. Will DR let you do self injections at home? Or are they not willing to do that?

Thanks in advance.
Hopefully questions aren't too off base.

[austinite]

Austinite, great post. Learned a lot just by reading.

Ok so I wanna do my first ever cycle, but as on right now I don't think I'm quite ready. I am 38 years old 5'11" and 225 lbs. I am about 25% bf so I would need to lose at least 10% before I would consider starting my cycle. My calculations would mean that I'd have to cut down to approx. 200 to be in the 15% range.
My TDEE is about 2500, so on my cycle I'd like to run at about a 300 cal surplus. I have been training since I was about 16 years old, but I haven't been in the gym for about a year. I just got back in about a month ago, and I can feel the muscle memory kicking in. I believe I do have a solid foundation to work on.
My cycle:
I would like to run Test 500mg/week 250mg mon and again on Thursday for 12 weeks
HCG from day 1
Arimidex 0.25mg/day from day 1
Also would run nac for liver protection.
I'm hoping this cycle works well. I do have realistic expectations and I have decent genetics so I could see some decent results.
Please let me know if all is good or are there any changes to
Consider.
Couple of questions
1. My general practitioner is where I'll go for blood work. Known the guy for years. Will he know what's up when I start asking him what to check for on blood work?
2. Can a regular doctor prescribe the test to me?
3. Would he prescribe the test even if my blood work comes back saying I have normal test? FYI he did prescribe Test to another friend of mine and he just went to pharmacy and got it. Took it back to dr and he administered the shot. Every 10 days.
4. Will DR let you do self injections at home? Or are they not willing to do that?

Thanks in advance.
Hopefully questions aren't too off base.

1. Yes.
2. Yes, but if he/she prescribes without legitamite and documented reason, they can lose their license to practice, so likely will not risk it.
3. No.
4. Some will, some won't.

[Walkman13]

BTW, PCT would be ran 18 days after cycle was over. Because if like to run cypionate.
Pct would consist of the exact protocol you outlined in original post.

[richard k]

I STARTED TESTC 5 MONTHS ago iam at 600mg a week now iam 51 now i have added 200MG OF DANABOL AND 200 TEST PROPINATE 6 WEEKS AGO AND NOW IAM GETTING GOOD GAINS IAM DOING 6 MORE WEEKS TAKE A2MONTH BREAK THEN IAM GOING TO CYCLE TREN DECA TEST CYCLE WITH ANY ADVICE

[base4291ball]

I STARTED TESTC 5 MONTHS ago iam at 600mg a week now iam 51 now i have added 200MG OF DANABOL AND 200 TEST PROPINATE 6 WEEKS AGO AND NOW IAM GETTING GOOD GAINS IAM DOING 6 MORE WEEKS TAKE A2MONTH BREAK THEN IAM GOING TO CYCLE TREN DECA TEST CYCLE WITH ANY ADVICE

I hope the 200 mg of dBol is a typo & 8 weeks off is not nearly the break your body needs. Maybe double that break after your final administration of your pct.

~Base

[sinombre]

I am 42 been working out for about 2 years and have lost 50 lbs!
I am 5'7", 154 lbs, 13% BF. My TDEE is 2000. I try to eat clean, my macros are:

P: 150 gm
C: 200 gm
F: 45 gm

Currently cutting.

I take creatin, calcium, omega 3/6, glucosamine and have recently started on austinites fat loss protocol with chromium, green tea extract and ephedrine (not in his stack) instead of Synephrine

Blood work:
E2 21 pg/ml
FSH 4.7MIU/ml
LH 8 MIU/ml
T 502 ng/dl
SHBG 49nmol/l
FT 8.1 ng/dl

I work out MWF hitting a different body part each day. Doing heavy weight reverse pyramid sytle.


I have all of the supplies needed including three 10 ml vials of 200mg/ml pharmacutical Test-C.

I plan to run 400 mg per week for 12 wks with 250 U HCG, my big question is this, is there a huge difference in the half dose biweekly vs full dose q 7 days? I prefer to pin once with 400T/500HCG in same syringe.

Other than that, I will do .25mg Arimidex every other day, n-acetyel cysteine qday and clomid/nolvidex for PCT

[austinite]

I am 42 been working out for about 2 years and have lost 50 lbs!
I am 5'7", 154 lbs, 13% BF. My TDEE is 2000. I try to eat clean, my macros are:

P: 150 gm
C: 200 gm
F: 45 gm

Currently cutting.

I take creatin, calcium, omega 3/6, glucosamine and have recently started on austinites fat loss protocol with chromium, green tea extract and ephedrine (not in his stack) instead of Synephrine

Blood work:
E2 21 pg/ml
FSH 4.7MIU/ml
LH 8 MIU/ml
T 502 ng/dl
SHBG 49nmol/l
FT 8.1 ng/dl

I work out MWF hitting a different body part each day. Doing heavy weight reverse pyramid sytle.


I have all of the supplies needed including three 10 ml vials of 200mg/ml pharmacutical Test-C.

I plan to run 400 mg per week for 12 wks with 250 U HCG, my big question is this, is there a huge difference in the half dose biweekly vs full dose q 7 days? I prefer to pin once with 400T/500HCG in same syringe.

Other than that, I will do .25mg Arimidex every other day, n-acetyel cysteine qday and clomid/nolvidex for PCT

Injecting twice weekly is more stable for your body, so yes. Regardless, hCG is short lived, needs to be twice weekly.

[Allegatormap]

I am new to this site and aas in general this is exactly what im looking for simple and detailed. I been lifting for ten+ years diet is in order i am going to spend next month reading taking notes and just absorbing as much info as possible before I start first cycle. thank-you for the info

[OmBal]

Wish i had come to this forum first - Articles by Austinite are a must read

[hustler1235]

what would you reccomend as a first cycle for a beginner 17% bf 66kg 5ft 6 to take 250mg/week test e or 500mg/week test e?
as some people are saying 250mg is enough and much safer
thank you help is much appreciated great post

[austinite]

what would you reccomend as a first cycle for a beginner 17% bf 66kg 5ft 6 to take 250mg/week test e or 500mg/week test e?
as some people are saying 250mg is enough and much safer
thank you help is much appreciated great post

250 is not enough. 17% BF, personally, I would cut down a bit first.

[ricardo69]

New to the forum and glad I happened upon this post. Great info and very in depth. Us rookies appreciate the advice!

[Jmac603]

That was very informative. Thank you. As someone who becomes OCD and tends to rush/go all in too soon, it will be of great benefit to have such a detailed resource. Thanks again.

J

[prosp09]

I have a quick question about the supplement of N-Acetyl Cysteine. I m supposed to take it first day of my cycle till the last of my pct right?
By the way this post was the best post about First cycle. Thanks a lot!!!

[austinite]

I have a quick question about the supplement of N-Acetyl Cysteine. I m supposed to take it first day of my cycle till the last of my pct right?
By the way this post was the best post about First cycle. Thanks a lot!!!

Yes, from day one till PCT ends. I never come off NAC, ever. On or off cycle.