explain Obama care

[Euroholic]

If only the DPRK had a uprising. But i think those people are all week and tired to step up.

[Java Man]

Can some one explain the bullshit that is Obama Care to me. Who does it benefit and how will it **** me?

Nobody can explain it.

it's authors don't understand it.
Congress didn't bother to read it
The vote was rushed through before the holiday recess
Its administrators don't know how to implement it

Nobody knows what is going to happen. Its a play by play unfolding in real time.

[Mike Dura]

I was reading some of the responses here. Not surprisingly, many are confused about AFA although some understand. It's not "goverment control of people" as someone above said. It's not "socialized medicine. " It's a law that provides some consumer protections. That's a good thing. Someone outlined the basics above. Much of the confusion about AFA is due to right wing public relations. Don't allow yourself to be exploited by Koch brother funded anti-Obamacare hype. U smarter than that.

[Mike Dura]

If there's anything wrong with AFA it's that it doesn't go far enough. A single payer system would be the best bet. Medicare for everyone!

[Mike Dura]

If there's anything wrong with AFA it's that it doesn't go far enough. A single payer system would be the best bet. Medicare for everyone!

[Mike Dura]

I was reading some of the responses here. Not surprisingly, many are confused about AFA although some understand. It's not "goverment control of people" as someone above said. It's not "socialized medicine. " It's a law that provides some consumer protections. That's a good thing. Someone outlined the basics above. Much of the confusion about AFA is due to right wing public relations. Don't allow yourself to be exploited by Koch brother funded anti-Obamacare hype. U smarter than that.

[Hazard]

oh christ.....



Hilary is that you?

[RaginCajun]

oh christ..... Hilary is that you?

Hahaha

[Hazard]

Hillary clinton wanted this shit years ago and no one else did. It didn't work then so why does it now? because we were lied to..... it was the only way to get the law passed. "you can keep your plan....." - then 2 years later "Now that you gullable mother fvckers lost your plans..... you have access to affordable care! Which happens to be more expensive than the plans you had. I also saved 6 tons of my own shit for you all to eat..... the line starts at the lincoln memorial"

[Hazard]

I'm not worried about obamacare.... it's imploding already. Not even nearly the amount of young people they need have signed up. Not even in person doing the paper filing. If they don't get enough young people this whole thing is going to crumble.

Maybe we can save face before we lose a whole trillion dollars

[Fcastle357]

Haz you have an Obama care argument going on two threads at the same time

[Hazard]

Haz you have an Obama care argument going on two threads at the same time

lol passion consumes me.....

I've never heard the word "Impeach" this much since clinton. it's crazy..... even democrats have thrown the term around and yet people still cup his balls and think it'll all be ok

[Fcastle357]

lol passion consumes me.....

I've never heard the word "Impeach" this much since clinton. it's crazy..... even democrats have thrown the term around and yet people still cup his balls and think it'll all be ok

Cup his balls If they can't see his true colors now I don't think they ever will. He could burn down house and say it was for the good of the people and some would throw logs on.

[lovbyts]

The problem is as you have also said, it's exactly what a lot of them want. Not for it to succeed but for it to fail so government can jump in when it's all falling apart to save the day with a one trick pony universal healthcare plan all run by the government where the prices we are seeing now will look good compared to what is going to happen. It's all part of a bigger plan/scheme. Socialist economics.

[kidrock29520]

Simple...It's written by insurance companies for insurance companies.

[Fcastle357]

Simple...It's written by insurance companies for insurance companies.

Nope.

[JD250]

Anyone who believes obamacare is a good thing is one of two things..... they are either a fvcking idiot or they are a fvcking idiot..... I mean that in the nicest way possible.

[Mike Dura]

Not quite JD. They're just a bit more informed than you are. You'll run into such people on occasion but you won't know it. They will. Law and ploitics is too complicated. Better to keep it simple and keep with the lifting and the reality tv.

[Hazard]

Not quite JD. They're just a bit more informed than you are. You'll run into such people on occasion but you won't know it. They will. Law and ploitics is too complicated. Better to keep it simple and keep with the lifting and the reality tv.

Lol okay.....

There's a reason why this shit is blowing up right now. People don't want it now more than ever.

So ur assuming I'm not informed..... I've been in medical since I was 18. I've worked side by side with a top 10 doctor in the nation, I've worked with hundreds of other doctors. Let me just tell you..... Not one...... NOT ONE wanted obamacare to pass. It was a frequent topic and was never supported.

It's a shit bill that wasn't read by a congress that was exempted from it. The total dollar amount was has doubled...... Pre-existing condition funds have run out already..... It created more IRS jobs and aimed to add 10 million more people without adding one single doctor.

[Mike Dura]

My comnent was directed at the guy with the jeep picture. Lol. I'm not sure about the docs you talk to but I am sure that specifics matter. Give specifics. Why do you think it's a shit bill? I think it sucks too incidentally. I do think it's a step in the right direction.

[austinite]

I'm going to break the page in about 2 minutes...

[austinite]

[Hazard]

My comnent was directed at the guy with the jeep picture. Lol. I'm not sure about the docs you talk to but I am sure that specifics matter. Give specifics. Why do you think it's a shit bill? I think it sucks too incidentally. I do think it's a step in the right direction.

My points are on 3 other threads man. I'm not typin it all on my phone again

[JD250]

Not quite JD. They're just a bit more informed than you are. You'll run into such people on occasion but you won't know it. They will. Law and ploitics is too complicated. Better to keep it simple and keep with the lifting and the reality tv.

We're all ears oh wise one, please carry on with our enlightenment. It's your turn amigo tell us all about the benefits and what is good about it.

BTW.... next time you are retaliating by insulting someones intelligence and capacity for "complicated" things...... at least try to spell "politics" correctly, it moots your entire point and nullifies any credibility you were trying for.

[Mike Dura]

Xxxxxx

[Mike Dura]

We're all ears oh wise one, please carry on with our enlightenment. It's your turn amigo tell us all about the benefits and what is good about it.

BTW.... next time you are retaliating by insulting someones intelligence and capacity for "complicated" things...... at least try to spell "politics" correctly, it moots your entire point and nullifies any credibility you were trying for.

Lol. You got me! I made a typo on the word politics. Good for you.

[Euroholic]

I was watching the american fox news channel. Obama was on there and he was saying sorry. Anyone see this?

[Armykid93]

I'm not sure if the "maternity for men" thing is actually in the mandates. But if it is, it's probably because of female to male trannys. It's probably just a "cover your ass" type thing.

I think if we're going to have state-mandated healthcare coverage, we shouldn't allow private companies to insure the public. You give an insurance company a way of raising their rates and throwing the blame on somebody else and they will. And that's what we have here. Health care administration should be ran by non-profits rather than for-profit business. But really when you get to it, it can't JUST be the administering of funding for healthcare that the government would have to run. Pharmaceuticals, hospitals and doctors would all have to be run by the government as well. Otherwise, it'd be prone to somebody fleecing the public somehow.

I know i'm late to this but trust me you don't want your health care run by the government. Anybody who's been to a military hospital will know what I mean.

[Hazard]

http://youtu.be/woBC5b3Ti0M

^ Obama voters didn't vote based on his policies ^

[austinite]

I'm going to mess up this thread soon.

[Hazard]

I'm going to mess up this thread soon.

Ill fvck up your life.....

Jk have at it Idc lol

[austinite]

Ill fvck up your life.....

Jk have at it Idc lol

lmfao, really did laugh out loud. Thanks

[Hazard]

lmfao, really did laugh out loud. Thanks

Anytime BRAH :-)

[Euroholic]

[austinite]

What flag is that?

[Euroholic]

What flag is that?

Australia!!!!!!! And that women is Miranda Kerr

[Black]

I don't appreciate being forced to do anything. Problem is, this isn't the first thing the government has pushed down our throats.

[Mike Dura]

I don't appreciate being forced to do anything. Problem is, this isn't the first thing the government has pushed down our throats.

You are forced to get insurance to drive a car. If it weren't a choice, those who wanted to act responsibly and get insured would have to pay a lot and you'd also end up paying for the uninsured (to make the analogy work.) That's absurd. Better if we were all insured because evetually we will all need the insurance.

This law is a step in the right direction but it does suck.

[Metalject]

You are forced to get insurance to drive a car. If it weren't a choice, those who wanted to act responsibly and get insured would have to pay a lot and you'd also end up paying for the uninsured (to make the analogy work.) That's absurd. Better if we were all insured because evetually we will all need the insurance.

This law is a step in the right direction but it does suck.

No one forces you to buy a car. If you want to drive one, state laws require you to have insurance. Big difference. Healthcare, the government forces you to drive the "car" buy the "car" insurance and pay for "car" insurance for those who don't have it even if they don't have a "car." And to make it more awesome, you're forced to have insurance that covers a race car, dump truck, 18 wheeler and a fleet of limos even if all you have is a 10yr old Prius.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

Well because of OC im losing my insurance this coming year because of something in the bill i guess my insurance doesnt coincide with.....so much for "You can keep your plan if you like it".

Whole thing is totally unecessary. There was already a "safety net" I've banged enough dirt poor single moms to know this, and they always have some way to see a doc when their kid gets sick. We didn't need this extra obamacare. take it from someone whose banged alota single moms, like dozens here... this thing was totally not needed.