Chinese HGH concerns

[lovbyts]

Damn when you first posted about being a jinx I was already feeling bad due to the powder fiasco, now I see this....I had always wondered about you screen-name. Much sympathy brotha, you (and family) have had a damn rough go of things. Hopefully you got your three strikes behind you now.

FFM

Dont forget about the 2 deceased wives now. OK the 2nd one I was already divorced when she died so that doesn't really count.

[swithuk]

Dont forget about the 2 deceased wives now. OK the 2nd one I was already divorced when she died so that doesn't really count.

a jinx or a serial killer ?

[lovbyts]

a jinx or a serial killer ?

Never charged or suspected so No on the 2nd part. Still not sure about the 1st
I like to think/say they just couldn't live without me.

[swithuk]

Davo Philippines. San Antonio province after typhoon Paulblo on Dec 11th. Thats the in-laws house. It faired better than most. 1st typhoon to hit the area in over 100 years.

ok thats bad luck im sorry for them

[lovbyts]

It's in a new thread I made.

Keep in mind blank vials, unrelated box.

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I read your other post and saw your seizure letter. I understand your reasoning but I have to agree with some of the other people that the HGH conclusion is based more on experience or conclusion then it is actual testing. As said it would be very expensive for them to send it out and have it actually tested. I'm sure after you have seen hundreds of samples come through it's easy to tell what is what just by looking at it or at least give him a best guess scenario.

Honestly I am NOT trying to be a d*ck or rain on your parade but I am trying to use a little common sense logic. Hopefully you're right and what your source is sending you is legit.

[Edwin23q]

I read your other post and saw your seizure letter. I understand your reasoning but I have to agree with some of the other people that the HGH conclusion is based more on experience or conclusion then it is actual testing. As said it would be very expensive for them to send it out and have it actually tested. I'm sure after you have seen hundreds of samples come through it's easy to tell what is what just by looking at it or at least give him a best guess scenario.

Honestly I am NOT trying to be a d*ck or rain on your parade but I am trying to use a little common sense logic. Hopefully you're right and what your source is sending you is legit.

Nah it's cool bro, I know where your coming from and I agree with your point.

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[lovbyts]

Nah it's cool bro, I know where your coming from and I agree with your point.

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Cool. I know its really easy to sound like you/I am being a d*ck or always negative online but thats not the my intention.

[marcus300]

Freddie fireman- no fishing please. Post deleted.

[Freddiefireman]

Sorry marcus... i wasnt trying to fish. I am new to this forum and dont quite know the rules... so i apologize

[ChuckEisenmench]

There is also the concern of winter shipping. Where I am it gets below freezing often during the winter.

Chuck

[Sheven]

There is also the concern of winter shipping. Where I am it gets below freezing often during the winter.

Chuck

So what? You can let gh at -5 and its top shape.

[swithuk]

yeah . isnt it the summer months that would be a problem ...?

[ChuckEisenmench]

OK-just thought I'd post a thought about below temp. destroying HGH. So it doesn't matter if it is stored below freezing?

Chuck

Hi Swithuk

[Sheven]

OK-just thought I'd post a thought about below temp. destroying HGH. So it doesn't matter if it is stored below freezing?

Chuck

Hi Swithuk

Unless its liquid gh or reconstituted, you can freeze it without any problem. summer is when you should worry about temp.

[Edwin23q]

Unless its liquid gh or reconstituted, you can freeze it without any problem. summer is when you should worry about temp.

Sheven,
Does that mean if it's in powder form and I put it in the freezer that it will add to it's shelf life? That's is it won't expire as per the expiry date or would you not risk it?

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[Sheven]

Sheven,
Does that mean if it's in powder form and I put it in the freezer that it will add to it's shelf life? That's is it won't expire as per the expiry date or would you not risk it?

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It will not add to shelf life but freezing wont destroy freeze-dryed hgh, after all has been freezed at -50 before you got it

[ChuckEisenmench]

Unless its liquid gh or reconstituted, you can freeze it without any problem. summer is when you should worry about temp.

10-4

[Far from massive]

Edwin,

Google freeze drying it will help you to understand the process.

[testluva]

I love my Ripps

[Xtralarg]

Take a look at these generic blue tops. Notice the compression of the HGH is not that tight! When you look at a quality HGH the compound are compressed with high end quality vacuum sealer. The pucks are smaller and tighter. That will give you an indication of a high end quality manufacturing lab. The lesser grade stuff have weaker vacuum sealers and are not that compressed. The tighter the puck looks the better chance of a quality manufacturer lab.

When you insert your syringe you will hear the vacuum seal release. The sound of a vacuum release gives one indication of a quality lab with expensive vacuum sealers.

This still doesn't prove it's real HGH but its a start.

They are just vials of sh1t. The colour of the tops is totally irrelevant, they are just tops that's all. If they had ran out of blue tops then they would of bought another colour, let's say green or yellow, and then they would call the crap in side green tops or yellow tops. We have had this debate 1000 times about these tops, when are people going to get the message? The chineese are laughing at whoever buys this rubbish, then they buy a range rover with your cash and laugh some more, in fact I bet they laugh all the time and so would you if you could sell your sh1t and p1ss for $1000's.

[EasyDoesIt]

They are just vials of sh1t. The colour of the tops is totally irrelevant, they are just tops that's all. If they had ran out of blue tops then they would of bought another colour, let's say green or yellow, and then they would call the crap in side green tops or yellow tops. We have had this debate 1000 times about these tops, when are people going to get the message? The chineese are laughing at whoever buys this rubbish, then they buy a range rover with your cash and laugh some more, in fact I bet they laugh all the time and so would you if you could sell your sh1t and p1ss for $1000's.

Yes i agree it's all generic junk. People still talking about the color of tops. I'm guessing that the color of tops was started by accident. All generic junk! Seems like it's going to take awhile for people to start saying GENERIC JUNK! At this point, if you have been reading this forum, genrerics should be common knowledge to be junk. No disrespect to the post, but this thread has been going on a long time and i think most of the debates and interest relates to counterfeit brands discovery.As the thread is named, "Chinese hGh concerns." That to a lot of us that means all Chinese hgh, not just genereics.

[marcus300]

They are just vials of sh1t. The colour of the tops is totally irrelevant, they are just tops that's all. If they had ran out of blue tops then they would of bought another colour, let's say green or yellow, and then they would call the crap in side green tops or yellow tops. We have had this debate 1000 times about these tops, when are people going to get the message? The chineese are laughing at whoever buys this rubbish, then they buy a range rover with your cash and laugh some more, in fact I bet they laugh all the time and so would you if you could sell your sh1t and p1ss for $1000's.

Agreed ^^^

[human project]

They are just vials of sh1t. The colour of the tops is totally irrelevant, they are just tops that's all. If they had ran out of blue tops then they would of bought another colour, let's say green or yellow, and then they would call the crap in side green tops or yellow tops. We have had this debate 1000 times about these tops, when are people going to get the message? The chineese are laughing at whoever buys this rubbish, then they buy a range rover with your cash and laugh some more, in fact I bet they laugh all the time and so would you if you could sell your sh1t and p1ss for $1000's.

Well colors of tops do matter if the color is black.... Well black isn't a color is if???...

[Xtralarg]

Well colors of tops do matter if the color is black.... Well black isn't a color is if???...

Can you explain what your point is please?

[EasyDoesIt]

Well colors of tops do matter if the color is black.... Well black isn't a color is if???...

Can you explain what your point is please?

I can't figure that post out either?? What is the meaning of the black isn't a color thing????

[Edwin23q]

Well colors of tops do matter if the color is black.... Well black isn't a color is if???...

No idea what your on about but I can put rainbow colored caps on the vials, does that add to the purity and potency?
Let me know if that's what the market demands and I'll provide, lol



P.s no Pm's on source or products or you will be reported.

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[Sheven]

Take a look at these generic blue tops. Notice the compression of the HGH is not that tight! When you look at a quality HGH the compound are compressed with high end quality vacuum sealer. The pucks are smaller and tighter. That will give you an indication of a high end quality manufacturing lab. The lesser grade stuff have weaker vacuum sealers and are not that compressed. The tighter the puck looks the better chance of a quality manufacturer lab.

When you insert your syringe you will hear the vacuum seal release. The sound of a vacuum release gives one indication of a quality lab with expensive vacuum sealers.

This still doesn't prove it's real HGH but its a start.

I dont know from where you got this information but from my experience what you just said is totally non-sense. The puck thickness and vacuum negative pressure inside the vial has nothing to do with the fact that the vacuum "sealer" is expensive or not, if its junk machine or top notch. It all has to do with the time and freezing diagram that is set by the operator, you can make super-tight and super negative pressure inside a vial with the cheapest lyo. There is no vacuum sealer in the production, the vacuum is caused by the vacuum pump that sucks all the air out of the lyo (freeze-dryer) so that the water can sublimate faster during the freezing part, as well lack of air is a better for preserving the freeze-dried material. So forget it, all this visual and optical analysis is bullshit, the best looking vials and best compressed puck can be pure mannitol. Doesn't matter the vial shape, top color, stopper color, puck size and look, this is like analyzing blood just by looking and smelling it then decide the patient can go home declaring him healthy meanwhile he has AIDS.

[lld]

This has to be the longest thread I can every remember reading. Thanks for some great info and even a few laughs!

[sitries]

I dont agree that all chinese growth is rubbish. Iv had good results off hyge and currrently on ansamone on 2iu a day and getting sides!!!! Initially i didnt think the ansamone was that strong and did a week at 4iu a day but then sides kicked in and i lowered the dose - sides are still prevallent and im also feeling leaner.

[Xtralarg]

I dont agree that all chinese growth is rubbish. Iv had good results off hyge and currrently on ansamone on 2iu a day and getting sides!!!! Initially i didnt think the ansamone was that strong and did a week at 4iu a day but then sides kicked in and i lowered the dose - sides are still prevallent and im also feeling leaner.

Have you read all of this thread because it sounds like you haven't! Anyway as long as you're happy, carry on.

[cyounger100]

I dont agree that all chinese growth is rubbish. Iv had good results off hyge and currrently on ansamone on 2iu a day and getting sides!!!! Initially i didnt think the ansamone was that strong and did a week at 4iu a day but then sides kicked in and i lowered the dose - sides are still prevallent and im also feeling leaner.

well as long as you are getting sides generics must be the way too go for sure thanks lol

[Sgt. Hartman]

well as long as you are getting sides generics must be the way too go for sure thanks lol

Reminds me of some of the guys on other forums - started some new blue tops and I've gained 15lbs of water in a week and have CTS so bad I can't move my hand or wrist, this GH is strong as hell bro! Lmao.

[marcus300]

Reminds me of some of the guys on other forums - started some new blue tops and I've gained 15lbs of water in a week and have CTS so bad I can't move my hand or wrist, this GH is strong as hell bro! Lmao.

lmfao, if only they knew lol

[cyounger100]

Reminds me of some of the guys on other forums - started some new blue tops and I've gained 15lbs of water in a week and have CTS so bad I can't move my hand or wrist, this GH is strong as hell bro! Lmao.

yep i know what you mean complete fools over at PM etc it still amazes me people waste there money on generics that makes you look worse i guess these kids will never get the fact they are wasting there money untill they try real pharm gh . I have completly gave up trying too help / convince people not to use them if they cant understand that there is a reason why pharm grade cost so much and why generics full of sugar water is 1 dollar an iu then they deserve it

[marcus300]

yep i know what you mean complete fools over at PM etc it still amazes me people waste there money on generics that makes you look worse i guess these kids will never get the fact they are wasting there money untill they try real pharm gh . I have completly gave up trying too help / convince people not to use them if they cant understand that there is a reason why pharm grade cost so much and why generics full of sugar water is 1 dollar an iu then they deserve it

There are that many fakes accounts over at PM promoting their sponsor's gh is laughable, they even have wonderful lab reports what get produced out of thin air

[EasyDoesIt]

well as long as you are getting sides generics must be the way too go for sure thanks lol

HAHAHA This page is making me LMFAO!!! I took some of the various Chinese pharm grade, HGH and generic yellow, blue and green colored tops. Funny at that time which was about 3 years ago, everybody was running around talking about blue tops as if they were gold. OOoohh yeah the blue tops! A bunch of guys all bought the blue tops from the regular supplier, it was basically from a batch of around 30 kits and everyone agreed not only no sides, absolutely nothing. That threw the blue top theory out. Then the next batch came in and they were yellow, now there were some sides, so everyone thought they were good and the Buzz was get the YELLOW TOPS, L0L.

Then i moved up in the world, LOL and bought JIN'S, I really had sides, oh my gosh, yes i said lots of SIDES! That 10 lbs of water gain, blood sugar all out of whack 20 minutes after i took my shot, sweating, more CTS than generics, hungry even though i just ate, thanks to this site found out it probably had (GHRP-6) in it. Sides told me this shit if FU...k up. I quit and swore off all chinese. Then i found Sero and started having real HGH RESULTS!!!! Yes my first reaction was "RESULTS" not "SIDES". When you are taking the real deal your first reaction should be results and not brainwashed feeling your fingers to see if they feel numb. Yes side effects are part of real HGH, but results are number one. Leaner, harder, density, better skin and hair grows so fast it's crazy! I think i have been taking 2-3 ius for probably a year and a half, not really sure how long and i am still amazed how the stuff just keep continuing to work better and better. I feel HGH when your over 50 taken at the HRT doses just keeps making things better. It's not a 3 to 6 month product. Yes if your younger and using it to compete or just look better, taken at high dosages of 8 units a day or i guess 15 as some pro's do, then those 6 months are good for that. At 58 i want to stay around 2 and 3iu's max for longevity.
My point is i feel a Natural reaction to really good product would be RESULTS and not SIDES!! I have noticed the salesman are always referring to sides and not results, at least where I am at. Most of these salesman here do not even know the web address of this site. When people take, test or Tren etc. the first reaction isn't my hair is falling out like crazy from the tren and my libido just went to sh...t. My first reaction to tren was holy shit this stuff works crazy fast and the results are in the mirror. My second reaction was i'm not taking this anymore as the sides are not worth the results to me. Some guys don't care about the negative sides, but they outweigh the results for me, so i keep my products limited to less harsh side effects, but that's just a personal choice. If i take Winny, i don't base the quality based on joints aching, i look for results and i'm betting most everybody bases typical gear and there results based on what the product is supposed to do. Seems like with HGH people are looking for sides first and not results. Another brainwashing the guys are selling it promote!

[cyounger100]

HAHAHA This page is making me LMFAO!!! I took some of the various Chinese pharm grade, HGH and generic yellow, blue and green colored tops. Funny at that time which was about 3 years ago, everybody was running around talking about blue tops as if they were gold. OOoohh yeah the blue tops! A bunch of guys all bought the blue tops from the regular supplier, it was basically from a batch of around 30 kits and everyone agreed not only no sides, absolutely nothing. That threw the blue top theory out. Then the next batch came in and they were yellow, now there were some sides, so everyone thought they were good and the Buzz was get the YELLOW TOPS, L0L.

Then i moved up in the world, LOL and bought JIN'S, I really had sides, oh my gosh, yes i said lots of SIDES! That 10 lbs of water gain, blood sugar all out of whack 20 minutes after i took my shot, sweating, more CTS than generics, hungry even though i just ate, thanks to this site found out it probably had (GHRP-6) in it. Sides told me this shit if FU...k up. I quit and swore off all chinese. Then i found Sero and started having real HGH RESULTS!!!! Yes my first reaction was "RESULTS" not "SIDES". When you are taking the real deal your first reaction should be results and not brainwashed feeling your fingers to see if they feel numb. Yes side effects are part of real HGH, but results are number one. Leaner, harder, density, better skin and hair grows so fast it's crazy! I think i have been taking 2-3 ius for probably a year and a half, not really sure how long and i am still amazed how the stuff just keep continuing to work better and better. I feel HGH when your over 50 taken at the HRT doses just keeps making things better. It's not a 3 to 6 month product. Yes if your younger and using it to compete or just look better, taken at high dosages of 8 units a day or i guess 15 as some pro's do, then those 6 months are good for that. At 58 i want to stay around 2 and 3iu's max for longevity.
My point is i feel a Natural reaction to really good product would be RESULTS and not SIDES!! I have noticed the salesman are always referring to sides and not results, at least where I am at. Most of these salesman here do not even know the web address of this site. When people take, test or Tren etc. the first reaction isn't my hair is falling out like crazy from the tren and my libido just went to sh...t. My first reaction to tren was holy shit this stuff works crazy fast and the results are in the mirror. My second reaction was i'm not taking this anymore as the sides are not worth the results to me. Some guys don't care about the negative sides, but they outweigh the results for me, so i keep my products limited to less harsh side effects, but that's just a personal choice. If i take Winny, i don't base the quality based on joints aching, i look for results and i'm betting most everybody bases typical gear and there results based on what the product is supposed to do. Seems like with HGH people are looking for sides first and not results. Another brainwashing the guys are selling it promote!

you couldnt have said it better but still these kids will never listen too you we were all hard headed at one time

[Synergy1]

HAHAHA This page is making me LMFAO!!! I took some of the various Chinese pharm grade, HGH and generic yellow, blue and green colored tops. Funny at that time which was about 3 years ago, everybody was running around talking about blue tops as if they were gold. OOoohh yeah the blue tops! A bunch of guys all bought the blue tops from the regular supplier, it was basically from a batch of around 30 kits and everyone agreed not only no sides, absolutely nothing. That threw the blue top theory out. Then the next batch came in and they were yellow, now there were some sides, so everyone thought they were good and the Buzz was get the YELLOW TOPS, L0L.

Then i moved up in the world, LOL and bought JIN'S, I really had sides, oh my gosh, yes i said lots of SIDES! That 10 lbs of water gain, blood sugar all out of whack 20 minutes after i took my shot, sweating, more CTS than generics, hungry even though i just ate, thanks to this site found out it probably had (GHRP-6) in it. Sides told me this shit if FU...k up. I quit and swore off all chinese. Then i found Sero and started having real HGH RESULTS!!!! Yes my first reaction was "RESULTS" not "SIDES". When you are taking the real deal your first reaction should be results and not brainwashed feeling your fingers to see if they feel numb. Yes side effects are part of real HGH, but results are number one. Leaner, harder, density, better skin and hair grows so fast it's crazy! I think i have been taking 2-3 ius for probably a year and a half, not really sure how long and i am still amazed how the stuff just keep continuing to work better and better. I feel HGH when your over 50 taken at the HRT doses just keeps making things better. It's not a 3 to 6 month product. Yes if your younger and using it to compete or just look better, taken at high dosages of 8 units a day or i guess 15 as some pro's do, then those 6 months are good for that. At 58 i want to stay around 2 and 3iu's max for longevity.
My point is i feel a Natural reaction to really good product would be RESULTS and not SIDES!! I have noticed the salesman are always referring to sides and not results, at least where I am at. Most of these salesman here do not even know the web address of this site. When people take, test or Tren etc. the first reaction isn't my hair is falling out like crazy from the tren and my libido just went to sh...t. My first reaction to tren was holy shit this stuff works crazy fast and the results are in the mirror. My second reaction was i'm not taking this anymore as the sides are not worth the results to me. Some guys don't care about the negative sides, but they outweigh the results for me, so i keep my products limited to less harsh side effects, but that's just a personal choice. If i take Winny, i don't base the quality based on joints aching, i look for results and i'm betting most everybody bases typical gear and there results based on what the product is supposed to do. Seems like with HGH people are looking for sides first and not results. Another brainwashing the guys are selling it promote!

My question is how in the hell do people afford 8, 10, 12, 14 iu's per day of hgh? Thats crazy money! Those seem like such high doses to me. If you are using legit hgh, wouldn't that be overkill x 10? Granted I'm not experienced, but Ive heard of great results with much lower doses. Some of this stuff blows my mind as I continue to learn.

[cyounger100]

My question is how in the hell do people afford 8, 10, 12, 14 iu's per day of hgh? Thats crazy money! Those seem like such high doses to me. If you are using legit hgh, wouldn't that be overkill x 10? Granted I'm not experienced, but Ive heard of great results with much lower doses. Some of this stuff blows my mind as I continue to learn.

Im sure the guys in competing have sponsors that pay for it but for us normal guys its not that expensive too run 4 ius or 5 of pharm grade gh 5 days on 2 days off like i do

[swithuk]

I dont agree that all chinese growth is rubbish. Iv had good results off hyge and currrently on ansamone on 2iu a day and getting sides!!!! Initially i didnt think the ansamone was that strong and did a week at 4iu a day but then sides kicked in and i lowered the dose - sides are still prevallent and im also feeling leaner.

how long have you been running it ? and what sides are you getting ?