My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[dernico]

Hello i have been training for last 2 years
my personal trainer told suggest me to start a cycle
and my cycle consist of
TEST prop
WINN
TREN
clen
t3
but i think this is too much for a first cycle
any advice ?
and sorry i dont know the dosage yet
thanks in advance

[gorex]

Great thread OP.

Is it important to continue using HCG whilst test e are still active in your system? ie running HCG week 1 to 14 instead of 1 to 12.

[Aerospace]

welcome!!!

[D-mac85z]

Hey I've never done this before so can some one direct me in thee right path where do I post questions about my first cycle thanks for anyone knowledgeable that can help

[Jumanji121]

Hey Austinite

Im new to the forum and read this a week or two ago and have some questions that I would really like some advice on, it would be much appreciated. I sent you a friend request as I dont know how to contact you directly. Thanks so much in advance

Cheers

[RickyReed]

Yes I read your thread but what do I say to my doctor about getting him to give me a prescription for the steroids?

[austinite]

Yes I read your thread but what do I say to my doctor about getting him to give me a prescription for the steroids?

Why would you do that? If you don't have low T you wont get it.

[RickyReed]

You are exactly right you should plan out what every move you plan on doing for your first cycle and keep to it! It is very hard to stay focused but if you have the determination you can do it and it will make you feel something that you never felt before, the fact that you are a winner to yourself and just keep in mind what your goals are and you can make it every workout.

[Lava]

This was very helpful. Thank you

[blakegains]

Thanks for
Posting, wish I could have read that a month ago before I started researching. It would have saved me a lot of time. Was great to read about all other factors, not just the gear. After reading it sounds like I should train for another 4-5 months to complete a full year of rigorous training ( been lifting on and off for years ) and clean eating, supplements etc...
I'm definitely a skeptic because there are soany people on the Internet sharing opinions. It seems you're sincere and educated on all aspects of the subject and that you all really care about your health. I want to be lifting for a long time so health is very important to me. So thanks again

[austinite]

Thanks for
Posting, wish I could have read that a month ago before I started researching. It would have saved me a lot of time. Was great to read about all other factors, not just the gear. After reading it sounds like I should train for another 4-5 months to complete a full year of rigorous training ( been lifting on and off for years ) and clean eating, supplements etc...
I'm definitely a skeptic because there are soany people on the Internet sharing opinions. It seems you're sincere and educated on all aspects of the subject and that you all really care about your health. I want to be lifting for a long time so health is very important to me. So thanks again

I am certainly an advocate for men and women's health. Good call on waiting until you have more training experience. Best of luck to you.

Have a powerful day.

[Brawny Snickers]

This is an incredible source of information. Thank you for posting this.

[macrodriguez]

Great read I appreciate you laying out all that information in such an easy way to understand. Thanks.

[stu555]

Hi ,just a quick question about the Arimidex doses on this cycle.Is it correct that they are made in 1mg tablet form( Arimidex (Anastrozole).does that mean that a quarter of a tablet should be taken every 2 days example below
quarter every 2 days after 8 days 1 whole tablet should have been used.
Week 1 to 14: on a test e cycle would mean that in total, twelve and a quarter tablets would be used if they are 1mg each.

Is this right /correct
or have I lost the plot
thanks

[austinite]

Hi ,just a quick question about the Arimidex doses on this cycle.Is it correct that they are made in 1mg tablet form( Arimidex (Anastrozole).does that mean that a quarter of a tablet should be taken every 2 days example below
quarter every 2 days after 8 days 1 whole tablet should have been used.
Week 1 to 14: on a test e cycle would mean that in total, twelve and a quarter tablets would be used if they are 1mg each.

Is this right /correct
or have I lost the plot
thanks

Yes, adex pharm comes in 1mg tabs. Just take half every third day if you can't cut it in quarters. Otherwise, every other day. So yeah, 8 days for a mg.

Not doing any more math today... lol.

Good luck.

[bulldogs]

Thanks for this thread austinite. Kept me from making some crap decisions.

[Schnelly11]

This post has been extremely informative, gold mine of information. The blood work schedule is something I haven't been exposed to before. I'll be sure to also use the links provided. Thanks!

[40+ReadyToGetStrong]

Solid information. I'm going to get to work on my blood testing. Cheers & thanks!!!!

[RickyReed]

Solid information. I'm going to get to work on my blood testing. Cheers & thanks!!!!

I am Moosse nice to meet you and I have ,well I live in Nashville TN and have found a low test clinic that I am going to go to and the best thing is you have to pay a up front fee , yet after that they bill my insurance and the only thing I have to pay is the 20% of the amount which will only be 15.00 for the treatment. So I am very excited and that way I would not have to do anything wrong, a doctor will provide me with the testosterone shots every two weeks and will help me out as far as my energy and my strength in the gym and my sex life , so y'all wish me the best for my visit on the sixteenth of April. Moosse

[isabellamendoza]

hello, i need help!! Its my first time taking steroids, i am a female 29 years old i weight 134 pounds and my body fat is 22% i want to use anavar ( 5 gr daily) to lose body fat, not to gain weight, i want to know if anavar is safe and if i am going to have bad effects, also i dont want to build a lot of muscle , just to look fit and removed body fat! Please if some women has taken it respond

[gaintrain90]

Hey great article hey I have question my 1st cycle I did prop 1ml eod then went to tripple stack ph super d.z 3 then a quad goin back to the juice now I hat tren e and prop coming a little worried I dnt no how much I should take thinkin 1ml prop eod nd 1ml of the tren once a week is that to little to much? Sorry 4askin 1st stack so in a new world kinda

[jet dr]

That's was a great read. Really opened my eye as far as injuries, over protein, expected gains and everything else.

[scottschop]

Austinite,
Man what a great post....Here is my deal, I am 48, with relatively low T, I am sorry I don't have my numbers, I was prescribed Androgel and it did nothing and my doc would not bump the dosage. He said it brought me up to normal/low numbers.
My plan is to do a T Cyp 500mg per week and a Deca 300mg per week. I have my gear, but I am having an issue sourcing the Arimidex.
The question is, at my age, with my low T situation, how at risk am I running this cycle with no AI?
Thanks

[kirkjamest]

Austinite, great post, I have been doing research on my own for about a year now and decided this post provided the most factual based information and straight forward recommendations from what appears to be a well informed source. (indeed, it helped me decide to pull the trigger on my first cycle). I appreciate what you have done to help others, its nice to see in this day and age. Also, the responses from Kelkel and the questions from the members are invaluable information. This is my first post so I will try to keep it brief, but won't happen.

48, 5'10, 175 lbs, 17.8 percent BF according to hand held device. Used to be a marathon runner but had a knee injury a few years ago and cannot run much anymore but am still no stranger to cardio-respiratory endurance and exercise. I started anaerobic resistance training about 2 years ago and hit a peak, love the way the body looks but want just a little more so as I stated above, I hit the gear with much fear. Hey that rhymed, whatever.

Started 400mg T-Cyp three weeks ago. 200mg IM 2X per week. Pharm grade
Arimidex .5 PO 3X weekly
HCG 500iu subq 2X weekly

Pre cycle BW showed test at 597ng/dl and free was 10.2. Hematocrit 46.8, Triglycerides 132,VLDL 30, LDL 100, HDL 33 and Total 125. AST 24, ALT 28, E-2 non sensitive 15.2 (I know, doc ordered it, I talked him into assay E-2 this time.) PSA .6

I'm in a position to afford having blood work done every two weeks which I will do and indeed did last week. Here are my troubles and am looking for suggestions to avoid freaking out and abandoning my desires.
so, two weeks in (4 shots total) Total T is >1500 (of course), Free is 58.9!! worthless E-2 is 11.2. (E-2 sensitive is pending). Here is what concerns me PSA up to .7, HDL down to 28, Triglycerides up to 167, total up to 179, AST is up to30 and ALT is up to 34. Also BP is wwwwaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy up for me. Im usually 107/68 area now 138/86.

Question is, are these increases (25%) in some cases normal? I don't like the liver reacting the way it is, (it appears to be pissed off, lol) and at my age a rise in PSA is not cool.

Any questions, comments, advice would be much appreciated. Thank you kindly. BTW, diet is clean except once a week. BF% up because I had to stop running a while back and blew up like a balloon, used to be 12% man, getting old is fun!

I don't take the NAC. Eat clean, drink water like its going out of style (old habit from marathoning).

[Swolberham_Lincoln]

Great thread! very informative especially for newer users

[tank331]

I'm a noob...and this was awesome. You just may have saved my dumb ass from self-destruction....Now I'm off to print, read and share and study this with lazer focus.

[lionsky]

Quick question for ya Austinite.. what are you opinions on this? I'm about to do the cycle you posted, and i've recently discovered this article. Looking forward to your response.. thanks

(cant post urls yet) just copy and paste into google lol

evolutionry org /hcg-dangers-exposed/

[thekidd91]

New to the forums. Very good info thanks bud

[monime]

Hello, I am a female wanting to start my first cycle asap but I dont know where to start. Been looking online for Anvaral but dont know who I should buy from. Can anyone help me with this? Where do I go?

[Sipqis]

Awesome post, I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from this post thank you Austin!

[kelkel]

Awesome post, I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from this post thank you Austin!

Now read the rest of the database for even more knowledge:



http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

[Crevicediverx]

Great post and some awesome advice i've read it a few times now and i have 2 quick questions
12 weeks
sust 250 at 500mg a week
arimidex 0.25g each day
hcg 500mg weekly

nolvadex and clomid pct 4 weeks

Nolvadex and clomid do you need both or is nolvadex sufficient enough alone?
do i need the hcg for pct and if so do you take it from week 1 until week 16?

[65fastback]

Hello fellow lifters!

This is exactly what i wanted to read. Very informative. Thanks a bunch

[manaboi]

Very educating thank you.

[Mike p]

Thank you very much!!!

[leanmac]

Hi, long time reader, first time poster. Exceptional thread, thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience.

I'm considering doing my first cycle based off my research so far and the dosages outlined in this thread.

I wrote down a cycle plan in a spreadsheet to get it clear in my head;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Do you think this looks right for a first time cycle of enanthate?

With regards to dosage timing, taking the enanthate and hCG on the same day, is it okay to inject hCG straight after your enanthate injection? Does this matter whether you're injecting hCG subQ or IM?

And with the Arimidex, Nolvadex and Clomid, does it make any difference when during the day they're taken?

Cheers

[Thelumberjack]

Great Info!!!
Thanks!!

[Relogic]

When can I start another cycle? How long should I wait?
-- Time ON + Wait time for PCT + PCT time = Time off. So in our example above, that would be 12+2+4=18 weeks.

So does this mean a full cycle (PCT included) is 18 weeks and then you take 18 weeks off from everything before starting another cycle? Or are you saying that at the end of the full 18 week cycle it's okay to start another cycle?

[Back In Black]

So does this mean a full cycle (PCT included) is 18 weeks and then you take 18 weeks off from everything before starting another cycle? Or are you saying that at the end of the full 18 week cycle it's okay to start another cycle?

18 weeks off everything

[htdsparky]

Hi

I am a 52 yr old man. I had been lifting on and off since i was 17 yrs old but had been a hard gainer and never really bulked up significantly despite going on high calorie/high protein diet several times. The upside, i could still pass myself up as a 30 yr old despite my age. Downside, I've never really experienced what its like to achieve impressive gains I see at the gym all the time.

Lately I found myself with the time and resource i need to actually try but my question is;

Is it already too late to experiment on steroids at this stage?