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    first time tren

    Hey Ronnie,
    Thanks for the advice on shoulder prob and chest workout a few months back. Took your advice and shoulder is back to 100% with nothing lost.

    What's your opinion on a beginners dose of Tren Ace or Tren E?

    And while I’m here I’ll ask about my goals.
    I would like to put on between 20-30 pounds of good beef from my current condition. I figure there are three options . 1 is if you think that if kept diet clean, protein high, and calories at about maintenance that I can lose some fat while gaining the lean beef. 2 diet down some and then try and re-gain size cleaner? 3 Is continue bulking until i know my lean body mass is where i want it? My avatar is close to my current condition. 6'2 and 275. I was up to 284 until the flu bug hit me the last 2 weeks. I really don't seem to have problems bulking, but adding fat seems to come with it.
    Please advice your thoughts
    Really appreciate your time.
    Thanx
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelevra View Post
    hey ronnie,
    thanks for the advice on shoulder prob and chest workout a few months back. Took your advice and shoulder is back to 100% with nothing lost.

    What's your opinion on a beginners dose of tren ace or tren e? start out slowly and if you have asthma/allergies keep an inhaler with you at all times. 50 mgs eod of tren-a or 200 mgs per week of tren-e is a good starting place. After 2 weeks bump it up to 75mgs eod or 300 per week depending on compound used and if you can handle side effects. and while i’m here i’ll ask about my goals.
    I would like to put on between 20-30 pounds of good beef from my current condition. I figure there are three options . 1 is if you think that if kept diet clean, protein high, and calories at about maintenance that i can lose some fat while gaining the lean beef. 2 diet down some and then try and re-gain size cleaner? 3 is continue bulking until i know my lean body mass is where i want it? i like approach 1 the best. my avatar is close to my current condition. 6'2 and 275. I was up to 284 until the flu bug hit me the last 2 weeks. I really don't seem to have problems bulking, but adding fat seems to come with it.
    Please advice your thoughts
    really appreciate your time.
    Thanx
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc223 View Post
    hey ronnie my name is jc. I'm sorry to bother but i'm new at this and i have seen many people talking about many different things and stores that are confusing me.. I'm kinda fat and i'm thinking about going to the gym because i'm getting marry soon. I was wondering if you or any one in here can point me to right path on what to get or where to get it from. If it's not too much to ask..anyone can send me a direct email with some info...thanks...
    search diet and training. You are not ready for steroids!

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    [QUOTE=calie;5529939]A steroid is a type of organic compound that contains a specific arrangement of four cycloalkane rings that are joined to each other. Examples of steroids include the dietary fat cholesterol, the sex hormones estradiol and testosterone, and the anti-inflammatory drug dexamethasone.


    PLEASE DO NOT TROLL IN THIS THREAD OR ON THIS BOARD!

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    Just wanted to say I read this post all the way through, My first read on this site and it makes complete sense to me thanks for a great read for a newbie PuP

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    Mr. Rowland, I'm new, and hopeful you can help.
    Basics: I am a 40s male with limited use of my legs due to injury to spine some 20 yrs ago. Additionally due to same CNS does not deliver the Testosterone nor Thyroid production message fully. Duly I am on physician prescribed injectable test and oral usd thyroid. While my counts are not extreme I am on sufficient amounts to register in the high normal.
    Lifting: Via primarily upper body free weight and machine lifting and body weight only wall squats (I can secure myself via holding on to rails) I have good strength and size where feasible.
    Question: Essencially using limited upper body strength movements only and with no cardio of note, is there any substance I can combine with these two meds in order to maximize Fat loss without significant muscle loss and ideailly gains? thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by boness View Post
    Mr. Rowland, I'm new, and hopeful you can help.
    Basics: I am a 40s male with limited use of my legs due to injury to spine some 20 yrs ago. Additionally due to same CNS does not deliver the Testosterone nor Thyroid production message fully. Duly I am on physician prescribed injectable test and oral usd thyroid. While my counts are not extreme I am on sufficient amounts to register in the high normal.
    Lifting: Via primarily upper body free weight and machine lifting and body weight only wall squats (I can secure myself via holding on to rails) I have good strength and size where feasible.
    Question: Essencially using limited upper body strength movements only and with no cardio of note, is there any substance I can combine with these two meds in order to maximize Fat loss without significant muscle loss and ideailly gains? You could run some clenbuterol and growth hormone.thank you
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    I ran a cycle about a year ago of test enathanate and deca and had pretty good gains. I was looking to get into another cycle now any suggestions on what would be good to get back into I wanted to also put on a lot of weight so maybe dbol or something

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    [QUOTE=frontlinemorgue;5563380]I ran a cycle about a year ago of test enathanate and deca and had pretty good gains. I was looking to get into another cycle now any suggestions on what would be good to get back into I wanted to also put on a lot of weight so maybe dbol or something test and d-bol with a little deca would be a good choice.[/QUOTE]above

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    Hi Ronnie im thinking of doing a 16 week blast this summer with your STS training technique. Heres what ive got
    Here is a little cycle history first. Ive done 2 cycles one when i was 20 and the other last year.

    First Cycle consisted of
    1-4 Dbols 50mg/day
    1-12 Deca @ 300mg/wk
    1-12 Test Cyp @500mg/wk

    2nd Cycle
    1-12 Test Enanthate @600mg/wk

    So for the STS 18 weeker i was thinking of going

    Reload
    1-8 Test Cyp @500mg/wk
    1-5 Anadrol @50-100mg/wk (dose dependant on sides)
    Deload
    9-10 test cyp @ 250mg/wk
    Reload
    11-18 Test Cyp @ 750mg/wk
    11-18 Anavar @ 30-50mg/day

    I also have extra Nolvaldex for my cycle if any sides present and was going to take 10mg per day

    PCT was going to be the standard
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20


    Thank for your time Ronnie and what a great thread you have going here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizdizzle View Post
    hi ronnie im thinking of doing a 16 week blast this summer with your sts training technique. Heres what ive got
    here is a little cycle history first. Ive done 2 cycles one when i was 20 and the other last year.

    First cycle consisted of
    1-4 dbols 50mg/day
    1-12 deca @ 300mg/wk
    1-12 test cyp @500mg/wk

    2nd cycle
    1-12 test enanthate @600mg/wk

    so for the sts 18 weeker i was thinking of going

    reload
    1-8 test cyp @500mg/wk
    1-5 anadrol @50-100mg/wk (dose dependant on sides)keep anadrol in cycle for 8 weeks unless you want to see strength gains plummet during weeks 6-8 of your reload. deload
    9-10 test cyp @ 250mg/wk
    reload
    11-18 test cyp @ 750mg/wk (take test up to 1 gram)11-18 anavar @ 30-50mg/day

    i also have extra nolvaldex for my cycle if any sides present and was going to take 10mg per day

    pct was going to be the standard (use hcg instead)]clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20


    thank for your time ronnie and what a great thread you have going here!
    above

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    im new to posting not to sure how to do it , sorry but here is my post
    Hi there im looking to do my first inject cycle. My stats are 84kg , 178cm tall, bf 11.5%, age 22, I train 6 times a week. My training is hard, mixed and intense. Ive been going gym for around 4 years but only hitting hard for the last 18months. I dedicate everything I do for my body.

    My diet is clean, andi have tried many things. ATM my goal is to get ripped/lean while gaining some mass. I have no problem bulking but I cannot rip, even with intense cardio , diet , supplements, personal training sessions and a stanna oral cycle 45mg each day 6weeks I still cannot achieve leanness.

    My plan.
    I hope to get my hands on sus250 10ml . In my area it is all I can really get. I have done months of research and I am finally getting the balls to inject.

    I plan to inject 1ml a week. My plan looks like this

    week
    1- 500mg sus250 + dbol 40 E/d
    2-1ml sus250 + dbol 40 E/d+ armidex .5mg e/d
    3-1ml sus250 + dbol 40 E/d+armidex .5mg e/d
    4-1ml sus250 + dbol 40 E/+armidex .5mg e/d
    5-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    6-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    7-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    8-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    9-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    10-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    11500mg sus250+ armidex .5mg e/d

    then wait 3 weeks and start PCT

    can some suggest a better plan? Maybe 2ml a week. Im up for any suggestions.

    My training ( 5-7 exercises including drop sets, supersets, negatives and a mixture of different activities)

    monday- back . Followed by 30min walk on high incline medium pace
    tuseday- moring 45 minute abs , Night- legs ,
    wends- chest ( with a personal trainer )
    thurs- arms and carido high intense
    friday- abs
    sat- shoulders and cardio 45ming walk on high incline followed by 10min row
    sunday- rest

    my deit-
    breaky- casien protein with oatmass,
    breaky 2- oats,honey,nuts and milk

    brunch- fruit, and can of tuna
    lunch- brown nice with tuna, veggies or chicken.

    Snacks – 3 small protien bars ( 8g proteins, 1.3g of carbs, 3.5gs of sugars, no fat.)

    Pre-workout meal- oat mass and casein protein
    pre workout- 1mr

    post workout- WPI protein
    dinner- two steaks, green veggies and small cup of brown rice



    My questions are
    1)ive heard of people using anti E during the cycle to reduce the bulking effects? Can someone please tell me the dosage and products I can use?
    2)My pct? Im not to sure how to go about it, ? Can someone please list a plan. Is armidex fine.
    3)Whats the best place to inject? The ass or shoulder? Or else?



    Any other tips or hints would be grateful.

    I know people will suggest to stay off the gear, but please help me with what I require so I can do this safely and benefit the gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunpshaunp View Post
    im new to posting not to sure how to do it , sorry but here is my post
    hi there im looking to do my first inject cycle. My stats are 84kg , 178cm tall, bf 11.5%, age 22, i train 6 times a week. My training is hard, mixed and intense. Ive been going gym for around 4 years but only hitting hard for the last 18months. I dedicate everything i do for my body.

    My diet is clean, andi have tried many things. Atm my goal is to get ripped/lean while gaining some mass. I have no problem bulking but i cannot rip, even with intense cardio , diet , supplements, personal training sessions and a stanna oral cycle 45mg each day 6weeks i still cannot achieve leanness.

    My plan.
    I hope to get my hands on sus250 10ml . In my area it is all i can really get. I have done months of research and i am finally getting the balls to inject.

    I plan to inject 1ml a week. (you'll need to inject 1ml 3 times a week to get cut!) my plan looks like this

    week
    1- 500mg sus250 + dbol 40 e/d
    2-1ml sus250 + dbol 40 e/d+ armidex .5mg e/d
    3-1ml sus250 + dbol 40 e/d+armidex .5mg e/d
    4-1ml sus250 + dbol 40 e/+armidex .5mg e/d
    5-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    6-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    7-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    8-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    9-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    10-1ml sus250 + armidex .5mg e/d
    11500mg sus250+ armidex .5mg e/d

    then wait 3 weeks and start pct (this cycle is too short. Run it for at least 16 weeks straight to get cut andf do not deload when trying to get ripped.)can some suggest a better plan? Maybe 2ml a week. Im up for any suggestions.

    My training ( 5-7 exercises including drop sets, supersets, negatives and a mixture of different activities) only do straight sets and reduce training days to 4 per week. 6-12 work sets per body part are enough for anyone given you train with intensity and strict form. Rememeber: Bodybuilding is not a marathon race!monday- back . Followed by 30min walk on high incline medium pace
    tuseday- moring 45 minute abs , night- legs ,
    wends- chest ( with a personal trainer )
    thurs- arms and carido high intense
    friday- abs
    sat- shoulders and cardio 45ming walk on high incline followed by 10min row
    sunday- rest

    my deit-
    breaky- casien protein with oatmass,
    breaky 2- oats,honey,nuts and milk

    brunch- fruit, and can of tuna
    lunch- brown nice with tuna, veggies or chicken.

    Snacks – 3 small protien bars ( 8g proteins, 1.3g of carbs, 3.5gs of sugars, no fat.)

    pre-workout meal- oat mass and casein protein
    pre workout- 1mr

    post workout- wpi protein
    dinner- two steaks, green veggies and small cup of brown rice (reduce carbs to 150 per day and have a once a week carb up day)

    my questions are
    1)ive heard of people using anti e during the cycle to reduce the bulking effects? Can someone please tell me the dosage and products i can use? do some research in this thread to find all of these answers!!!2)my pct? Im not to sure how to go about it, ? Can someone please list a plan. Is armidex fine.
    3)whats the best place to inject? The ass or shoulder? Or else? pecs, lower side delts, glutes and some like quads.


    any other tips or hints would be grateful.

    I know people will suggest to stay off the gear, but please help me with what i require so i can do this safely and benefit the gains.
    You must read to learn! Read this whole thread then come back with questions..

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    Thanks Ronnie for very interesting post.

    And hi to everyone. This is my first post.
    Greetings from Finland.

    I personally don't use anabolics atm. Interested though.

    But I agree about your view on training methods, and I am now building new workout routine for myself, where I mainly train 5 days a week, different musclegroup every day, so I go them through once per week (I do legs the same day as triceps).
    I am also making another routine for the weeks where I am going to do "double", and do all muscle groups twice per week, just like in your suggested system.
    Now as I mainly do the first routine, going through everything once per week...
    My question is... how often do you think that it would be ideal to do this double routine, and do them twice per week?

    Did you mean that (with anabolics cycle), you would do "double routine" in those 2 deload weeks, and normally do once per week system, while doing reload (8 weeks)?

    Or the other way around?
    To me it just sounds off, if you should do intense "double routine" 8 weeks a row...

    Or how about double routine in the first 2 weeks of reload?
    Last edited by Kenlie; 04-12-2011 at 02:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenlie View Post
    thanks ronnie for very interesting post.

    And hi to everyone. This is my first post.
    Greetings from finland.

    I personally don't use anabolics atm. Interested though.

    But i agree about your view on training methods, and i am now building new workout routine for myself, where i mainly train 5 days a week, different musclegroup every day, so i go them through once per week (i do legs the same day as triceps). do not train anything with legs. Train triceps with shoulders or biceps.i am also making another routine for the weeks where i am going to do "double", and do all muscle groups twice per week, just like in your suggested system.
    Now as i mainly do the first routine, going through everything once per week...
    My question is... How often do you think that it would be ideal to do this double routine, and do them twice per week? basically, when you get bored and need a change up or hit a major plateau. Once a week training should make up the bulk of your training.did you mean that (with anabolics cycle), you would do "double routine" in those 2 deload weeks, and normally do once per week system, while doing reload (8 weeks)? no, stick to once a week muscle group training through reloads and deloads unless you are training each muscle twice a week to try something new. In that case, train the muscle twice during reload and deload.or the other way around?
    To me it just sounds off, if you should do intense "double routine" 8 weeks a row...

    Or how about double routine in the first 2 weeks of reload?
    above

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    Very interesting.... You have a lot of experience that is express from your way of sharing..... I hope you will continue to sharing such a valuable information...
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    Last edited by Pierce; 04-16-2011 at 02:31 AM.

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    Hi Ronnie,


    I'm done with my first 8 week reload now (not the first cycle ever). I'm very happy with the gains so far. I actually did 9 weeks, but felt that there wasn't any progress the last week. You might be just right with advising 8 weeks. I will stick to this in future. Thank you so much for this tip with reload and deload. I was on 1000mg test/week and gained 13 lb and lost some fat acc. to skin fold measures. I want to get big and staying on. Have noticed no side effects, except of very little acne and a little bloat. I seem to do fine on test.

    I have plenty of test and some tren on hand. What would you advise for next reload and which dose?

    1500mg test/week or 1000mg test + 300-400mg tren/week


    I think for next reload I will follow the split you where advising earlier in this thread:

    Chest/Biceps
    Legs
    rest
    Shoulder/Triceps
    Back
    rest
    rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom bodo View Post
    hi ronnie,


    i'm done with my first 8 week reload now (not the first cycle ever). I'm very happy with the gains so far. I actually did 9 weeks, but felt that there wasn't any progress the last week. (sounds about right) you might be just right with advising 8 weeks. I will stick to this in future. Thank you so much for this tip with reload and deload. I was on 1000mg test/week and gained 13 lb and lost some fat acc. To skin fold measures. I want to get big and staying on. Have noticed no side effects, except of very little acne and a little bloat. I seem to do fine on test.

    I have plenty of test and some tren on hand. What would you advise for next reload and which dose?

    1500mg test/week or 1000mg test + 300-400mg tren/week (go with test/tren combo!) some d-bol or drol added would really swell you up!
    i think for next reload i will follow the split you where advising earlier in this thread:

    Chest/biceps (this split works great!)
    legs
    rest
    shoulder/triceps
    back
    rest
    rest
    above

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    You'll want to read this!

    Ronnie,
    I just stumbled across this thread while searching many sites for advice. You seem to know what you are talking about and this thread has been going on a LONG time.
    I am currently the big "50" and trying to get back in shape after being slack about it for a couple of years. (6' 1" and now 250 lbs) probably 25-30 of it pure fat. Seems impossible to lose but easy to gain. Anyway this slingshot training looks pretty awesome and I will try it. But... I do not take and have never taken steroids, So I'm sure I will still see some muscle growth. If I take 2g of protein per Lb of body weight during the reload, Thats alot of protein. Will it translate to just more FAT. I do a total of around 3 hours of cardio a week and lift 2 days heavy and low reps. and one day lite and high reps between the heavy days. Also my workouts are full body and take an hour or so.
    I appreciate your response advance. I think it's awesome that someone like yourself takes obviously alot of you own time to educate so many others. Thanks again
    Last edited by Willy D.; 04-17-2011 at 06:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy d. View Post
    ronnie,
    i just stumbled across this thread while searching many sites for advice. You seem to know what you are talking about and this thread has been going on a long time.
    I am currently the big "50" and trying to get back in shape after being slack about it for a couple of years. (6' 1" and now 250 lbs) probably 25-30 of it pure fat. Seems impossible to lose but easy to gain. Anyway this slingshot training looks pretty awesome and i will try it. But... I do not take and have never taken steroids, so i'm sure i will still see some muscle growth. If i take 2g of protein per lb of body weight during the reload, thats alot of protein. Will it translate to just more fat. yes! i do a total of around 3 hours of cardio a week and lift 2 days heavy and low reps. And one day lite and high reps between the heavy days. Also my workouts are full body and take an hour or so. diet, and having high testosterone levels is the secret for body fat loss while building a hard physique, not cardio! i appreciate your response advance. I think it's awesome that someone like yourself takes obviously alot of you own time to educate so many others. Thanks again
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    above
    Thanks for your responce. Like I said I have never done anything before but I'm thinking of trying some "legal steriods" Anadroll, Deccabolan, and Dianabol. Will these help elevate my test levels? Being around 30Lbs overweight how many calories should I consume while taking this and doing your routine? Thanks again

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    Sir Ronnie Rowland pls help me decide. What steroids should I take if I'm a 22 yr old 120lbs and I only want to be a 160lbs of lean mass muscle gain fast. And when I got to 160lbs of lean muscle gain I would maintain it by not taking steroids again. What I have in mind right now is to take deca durabolin is that good for me if I want a fast lean muscle gain?? thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgvillones View Post
    Sir Ronnie Rowland pls help me decide. What steroids should I take if I'm a 22 yr old 120lbs and I only want to be a 160lbs of lean mass muscle gain fast. Honestly, the only steroids you need is those from BEEF! You just need to eat. Steroids do not make you gain weight, only eating does that! And when I got to 160lbs of lean muscle gain I would maintain it by not taking steroids again. What I have in mind right now is to take deca durabolin is that good for me if I want a fast lean muscle gain?? bad idea. Once you hit 160 then maybe think about taking test in a couple of years.thanks in advance.
    above

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    but sir Ronnie I want to take steroids so what steroids is the best to take? at the same time when I take steroids I will also eat as many as I can so I can be 160lbs fast. Pls help me I really want to take steroids but not sure what steroids should I take. Thanks.

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    great post, thanks for sharing

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    opps

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    Hey Ronnie (or anyone lol). I have a few questions if i may please:

    Im 37yrs old 205lbs and ive been lifting for about 17 years. All ive taken supplement wise is whey protien after workouts (all natural).....so im not a serious bodybuilder but i do lift 4 days a week consistantly. I do more arms/upperbody than anything.
    Anyways, i know this post isnt very complicated but i was looking for some goood advice...and thanks to everybody ahead of time i really appreciate it

    1.) Im looking to start a cycle of Anavar/oxy....i WILL NOT be stacking because i dont want to put on a lot of weight and water retention, not to mention liver problems. Through research, this seems like the steroid most suited for my needs. My question is how much mg should i be taking everyday? Also, on days that i dont lift do i still maintain the same doseage? Should i cycle for 8 weeks.....then how many weeks off before the start of my next cycle (assuming i m happy with the results)
    2.) Right now im only taking Whey protien on the days i lift....(about 150 grams) then i get the rest from food. On the days i dont lift, i ONLY get my protien from food. I only consume about 2500 (roughly) calories a day, which i know isnt much...but like i said, i kind of worry about putting on too much weight because i just went from 235lbs down to about 205 and i feel better without the extra weight so i would like to keep off the weight while still gaining lean muscle and burning fat. I also run 5 days a week, about 3-4 miles each session. What would you reccomend for my daily Whey protien intake for me based on my wants?
    3.) Where the heck can i order LEGITIMATE Anavar/Oxy online for a decent price?

    If you have any other suggestions, im open to them. I would just really try to keep it simple because reading some of these posts is like reading Chinese to me lol....although the knowledge is quite impressive

    Thanks again to everybody....have a great night!!!

    Dan

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    Hi Ronnie,


    I startet growth 2 days ago. I'm bloating pretty much, feeling tired after injects and getting extremely hungry for a couple of hours after the injects. I think these feelings are normal right?

    But then I also feel a significant increase in Libido. I'm sort of feeling, that i did double up my test dose. Did you notice something similar on growth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom bodo View Post
    hi ronnie,


    i startet growth 2 days ago. I'm bloating pretty much, feeling tired after injects and getting extremely hungry for a couple of hours after the injects. I think these feelings are normal right? it can be because it causes a little water retention upfront and messing with your blood sugar levels. It should level off in 4 weeks or so,.

    But then i also feel a significant
    increase in libido. I'm sort of feeling, that i did double up my test dose. Did you notice something similar on growth? gh increases sex drive for some people!
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaws1174 View Post
    Hey Ronnie (or anyone lol). I have a few questions if i may please:

    Im 37yrs old 205lbs and ive been lifting for about 17 years. All ive taken supplement wise is whey protien after workouts (all natural).....so im not a serious bodybuilder but i do lift 4 days a week consistantly. I do more arms/upperbody than anything.
    Anyways, i know this post isnt very complicated but i was looking for some goood advice...and thanks to everybody ahead of time i really appreciate it

    1.) Im looking to start a cycle of Anavar/oxy....i WILL NOT be stacking because i dont want to put on a lot of weight and water retention, not to mention liver problems. Through research, this seems like the steroid most suited for my needs. My question is how much mg should i be taking everyday? Also, on days that i dont lift do i still maintain the same doseage? Should i cycle for 8 weeks.....then how many weeks off before the start of my next cycle (assuming i m happy with the results)
    2.) Right now im only taking Whey protien on the days i lift....(about 150 grams) then i get the rest from food. On the days i dont lift, i ONLY get my protien from food. I only consume about 2500 (roughly) calories a day, which i know isnt much...but like i said, i kind of worry about putting on too much weight because i just went from 235lbs down to about 205 and i feel better without the extra weight so i would like to keep off the weight while still gaining lean muscle and burning fat. I also run 5 days a week, about 3-4 miles each session. What would you reccomend for my daily Whey protien intake for me based on my wants?
    3.) Where the heck can i order LEGITIMATE Anavar/Oxy online for a decent price?

    If you have any other suggestions, im open to them. I would just really try to keep it simple because reading some of these posts is like reading Chinese to me lol....although the knowledge is quite impressive

    Thanks again to everybody....have a great night!!!

    Dan
    DAN, SORRY BUT THE REASON i DID NOT ANSWER THIS POST IS BECAUSE E ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THESE KINDS OF THINGS ON THE OPEN BOARD (SOURCE INFO).

  31. #31
    Hey Ronnie...i just recieved your response. Since i cant talk with you on here, please email me IF you get a chance(about my original post). I completely respect the fact that you are a very busy man and im sure its next to impossible to help out EVERYONE. If you do get a chance, my email is [email protected]. It would mean the world to me to get your expert advice, but if you cant i completely understand.I appreciate your time. Thanks again!

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    Can you change compounds like.... Running test and tren for 8 weeks then 2 week deload of just test and then run test and decca. And would I have to run more test on the second reload?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tay-boe View Post
    can you change compounds like.... Running test and tren for 8 weeks then 2 week deload of just test and then run test and decca. yes thats the best way! and would i have to run more test on the second reload? not unless you want to.
    above

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    Hi there, this is a summer about me so maybe you can help me out. Started training about 11 years ago and my first cycle was 100 5mg dinabal and i made preety good difference no pct taken, 2nd cycle was 250mg sustanun,200mg deca and about 200 dinaball for 8weeks and took only 500mg HCG and felt my hair getting thinner since i stopped and some weeks after. Then had 200 Winsrol 5mg for 10 weeks and went preety good. A Cycle of Cypronaite 400mg a week for 8 weeks no PCT. 10 week Trenbolon no PCT, 5 weeks Boldenate & Trenbolone wHich I was looking very ripped at 95 kg no PCT. These cycles where taken in about 8 years with approximatley over 6 months clean in between. Than I stopped workout for a couple of years and also had a surgery which dissolved me in 75kg. Now I m heading back at the gym and taking it very seriously but obviously i feel bad seeing everyone bigger and my motivation goes a bit lack. Knowledge in my country wasnt that good concerning steroids and now a days the few people who can guide you by there experience are very few and hard to spend time helping you out. Now I am going trough thinning of hair and I am trying to at least keep whats left, using some Nioxin Treatments while I also wish to get back in the shape i was when i use to in my peak. But this time i want to do in the proper and safest way taking precautions and the least stuff that can effect DHT. Can you please suggest a cycle for me to gain some quality muscle. Water retention dont bother me much and I am a lean gainer with whatever I take, so my first concern is saftey. At the moment I have 14% fat 84kg 6.1ft tall. Please help me out because i m being very upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanca View Post
    hi,my name is walter.i hope you can you give a little advice.i have mutiple sclerosis.is there any steroids that can help me gain strength,loose weight and feel 18 again.i have never taken any meds for this dease,but i am pretty desperate.any advice you could give would be appreciated.thanks walt

    testosterone enanthate and even tren enathate has helped many people with muscular problems.. But you must lift and eat correctly to obtain benefits. I would start at 500 mgs weekly..


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    Sir i have been taking Androlic 50mg British Dispens from 5 weeks .. but from last 2 months i`am working out without any steroid and supplements..and now i`m feeling really sick from last 1 month and not even going to gym..i`m suffering from diarrhea,nausea,shortness of breath and theres too much pain in my legs... can you please suggest me what to do.. if there is any washout for these steroids then please let me know....

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    hi ronnie,

    question for you ... im doing a 8 week cycle of super dmz followed by 4 weeks of decadrol.... now for my deload part do you suggest going for a pct or maybe just deload for another 2 weeks using decadrol again and then repeating the cycle( dmz and decadrol )again???

    any input would be greatly appreciated

    thks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_420 View Post
    hi ronnie,

    question for you ... im doing a 8 week cycle of super dmz followed by 4 weeks of decadrol.... now for my deload part do you suggest going for a pct or maybe just deload for another 2 weeks using decadrol again and then repeating the cycle( dmz and decadrol )again???Is decadrol a prohormone or steroid mix?

    any input would be greatly appreciated

    thks in advance
    above

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    hey ronnie.
    decadrol is a non-methylated pro-anabolic the active ingredient is Methoxygonadiene (aka Max LMG).

    i thought after 4 week cycle of super dmz... i could deload on this compound since is non methylated and a lot easier on the side effects,,,

    on that note can you recomend a cycle of designers or pro hormones??? i read a lot of conflicting info out there...


    thks for your time ronnie

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    Hi guys I'm. New to this whole scene and I'm not sure if these post r up to date or not but I gotta say ronnie u give a new guy a whole lot of knowledge. Thanks man

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