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That’s his point. It shows BLM to be a phony bullshit fraudulent movement.Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog
So if a criminal gets killed it’s only a big deal if a cop does it? That’s the hypocrisy.
Again, you prove what a fraud that BLM is. Black lives really don’t matter, except if a cop is involved. Don’t you see any issue with that mentality, and how it proves that black lives don’t always matter at all.
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BLM was started by 3 feminist lesbians .. their agenda is more about gay and transgender crap then actual black men being moral good men.. they are simply riding on the coat tails and hijacking black rights to push a feminist gay transgender agenda.
its a political movement of morally corrupt people hijacking a real civil rights issue to push their depravity upon others.. BLM really has nothing to do with the moral black man at all.
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It IS a big deal when a cop does it. That’s the whole point that you (and many others) are missing. The police, by the very nature of their station, are granted an amount of responsibility and implied trust. When they violate one or both of these, they should be held to a higher standard (and subject to harsher punishments) than random shitlord criminal #36528.
This also ties into my disagreement with defunding. Pay more, up the training standards, hold them as accountable as their station dictates, instead of paying them shit, hiring people who should never have been police to begin with, and then hiding their misdeeds behind some “thin blue line” tripe.
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When a cop does what? Accidentally kill someone?
Is the dead guy any less dead? Is Floyd’s life worth any less than Tyanna Johnson’s. Oh, You dont know her name? That’s my whole point.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...-park/2462809/
You are stating two contradicting things. If the police have an implied trust, that means that you give them the benefit of the doubt. You cant say they have an implied trust, then hold them to a higher standard.
An implied trust means they have a lower standard of proof to be believed than the average person, due to the implicit trust you gave them.
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This.
Hate crime legislation is ridiculous and should be abolished. Are you any less hurt or less dead if I bashed you on the head with a bat because of your race, or if I bashed you on the head with a bat because I wanted your iPhone? Who is more injured?
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the fbi does not charge blacks for crimes agains whites as hate.
it is the south side, i live part time there. well not the south side but within walking distance to wrigley.
please dont give me 10 year old stats.
I guess if we call it gang violence then black lives do not matter? is that what u are saying?
is it only a problem when a cop does something wrong?
ok, so then i ask this?
when the radical muslims were blowing us and the world up the same mother fuckers protesting/rioting were telling everyone not to judge all by the few. Now its ok to blame all cops for the few that suck?
man fuck all this shit and fuck everyone who calls them peaceful protesters.
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Holy fuck, where do you live, Lincoln Park? Nice digs! That sure as shit ain’t the south side, lol. Ever spend any time in Ford Heights / East Chicago Heights?
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Another smooth talker. And yet another black “tool” for the right job . . .
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left wing radicals are generally the first ones to resort to violence .
but the right wing white conservative packing an aR15 to defend his home and property is somehow portrayed as the violent one.
happens all the time.
its reverse psychology .. satanic left winger democrats started the KKK. meanwhile the Republican Party was founded by mainly good moral black family men. the democrats needed to end that ideology. so they lynched blacks and killed people in political power. and then they reverse psychology all the fools in the world and act like they are the party of anti-racism. meanwhile they are setting up abortion clinics in black neighborhoods to wipe out that race. and the democrat KKK has infiltrated the police force and other parts of government. yet they want to blame white republicans ... its total reverse psychology. so many people are being dooped and played.
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The right to protest is at the core of the first amendment.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-spe...hts-protesters
and for hate crimes...
https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/tables/table-1.xls
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is this post sarcastic and a joke or are you being serious ?
you post up a donation site for a "union" that supports and defends the rights and funding of people to kill millions of black babies every year and wipe out that race . and use that as a defense for the first amendment rights . lol thats retarded.. you do know that most the money donated will be going to killing black people/babies and not to actual civil rights
its total reverse physcholgy with left wing demo-crats (which means demonic rule) .. your talking like your not racist out of one side of your mouth meanwhile your supporting and funding the killing and wiping out of an entire race. then you blame conservatives as being the racist ones .
LOL . we see through your demonic atheist murdering lie bullshit.
your not going to be able to reverse psychology the sleeping giant once its woke up . sure, you have some stupid sheep you still may be able to dupe, but not the giant.
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Here is another site you can read up on that says that protesting is covered by the first amendment.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitu...irst_amendment
Are you claiming that protesting is not protected by the first amendment?
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I'm not sure who you are referring to ..
I'm 100% for protesting
I'm 100% for that the government should fear the people and not the people fear the government
I'm 100% for the 2nd amendment and everyone being strapped to the gills... but I'm also for the 1st amendment being the first line of defense and that the power of the pen (speech) is greater then the power of the sword/gun. the power of the gun is simply to defend yourself ,, the power of the pen is for offense
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I'm not sure who you are referring to ..
I'm 100% for protesting
I'm 100% for that the government should fear the people and not the people fear the government
I'm 100% for the 2nd amendment and everyone being strapped to the gills... but I'm also for the 1st amendment being the first line of defense and that the power of the pen (speech) is greater then the power of the sword/gun. the power of the gun is simply to defend yourself ,, the power of the pen is for offense
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its interesting how "defund the police'' has become a left wing thing and support the police is somehow a right wing thing.
I'm a white conservative (no I'm not republican.. I'm far too right to be a republican.. I'm more of a theonomic constitutionalist). BUT I support the left wing idea of "defund the police".
but because I'm a far right wing conservative I'm not supposed to be in that camp now am I .
well I can only go by what I see, not my political standings.. a lot of KKK and free masons have infiltrated the police force and government systems and courts .. so I'm not so much for "defund" as I am for re-structuring re vetting etc.. and getting rid of satanist, kkk, and free masons from those positions. the corruption is out of control . so I get why the protests are talking about "defund the police" ,, but perhaps that message is just a message and really isn't a left vs right wing thing.
you could probably get rid of half the police force (especially getting rid of the KKK and free masons that have infiltrated the force). if society would just arm themselves and take care of their neighbors. theres really not a lot of crime to deal with... I have family members that are cops , I know several cops .. most the time they are bored and have nothing to do and paperwork is the biggest task of the job.
thats just an observation . just because I believe "defund the police" is an ok message does not make me left wing or liberal (again I'm pretty hard core right wing.. actually I'm so far right I fell off that wing all together )
point being ,, everything is so political all the darn time . my observations and thoughts should not automatically put me into some political camp . but we do that to each other all the time.
if I say I'm ok with the message "defund the police" to a left winger he will automatically assume I'm left wing without realizing I'm extremely right wing.. because everyone is so politicized thinking rather then just being free thinking humans
suppose that was just a rant
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its interesting how "defund the police'' has become a left wing thing and support the police is somehow a right wing thing.
I'm a white conservative (no I'm not republican.. I'm far too right to be a republican.. I'm more of a theonomic constitutionalist). BUT I support the left wing idea of "defund the police".
but because I'm a far right wing conservative I'm not supposed to be in that camp now am I .
well I can only go by what I see, not my political standings.. a lot of KKK and free masons have infiltrated the police force and government systems and courts .. so I'm not so much for "defund" as I am for re-structuring re vetting etc.. and getting rid of satanist, kkk, and free masons from those positions. the corruption is out of control . so I get why the protests are talking about "defund the police" ,, but perhaps that message is just a message and really isn't a left vs right wing thing.
you could probably get rid of half the police force (especially getting rid of the KKK and free masons that have infiltrated the force). if society would just arm themselves and take care of their neighbors. theres really not a lot of crime to deal with... I have family members that are cops , I know several cops .. most the time they are bored and have nothing to do and paperwork is the biggest task of the job.
thats just an observation . just because I believe "defund the police" is an ok message does not make me left wing or liberal (again I'm pretty hard core right wing.. actually I'm so far right I fell off that wing all together )
point being ,, everything is so political all the darn time . my observations and thoughts should not automatically put me into some political camp . but we do that to each other all the time.
if I say I'm ok with the message "defund the police" to a left winger he will automatically assume I'm left wing without realizing I'm extremely right wing.. because everyone is so politicized thinking rather then just being free thinking humans
suppose that was just a rant
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Can I get an "AMEN!"
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im in logan square when in chicago and parkland in south florida.
small ass condo there and house here. i hate chicago
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I moved when Chicago drafted MJ, so missed that run. Now, I only miss the pizza (but f-it, they ship it out frozen).
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You want to get that job done well. Choose the right “tool” for the job.
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Lets be honest. If BLM got their wish and not a single black person ever again died in dealings with police, it wouldn’t make a dent in the black homicide rate.
The number of deaths of black folks every year from dealing with the police is statistically insignificant. It is not even noticeable on the graph of the black homicide rate.
Look at a pie chart or bar graph or whatever of the black homicide figures for any year. Now remove all the ones who died in dealings with cops. The number is so inconsequential, in the overall numbers, that the graph wouldn’t have a noticeable change.
If you want to save black folks’ lives, and really help out the group in a meaningful way, end the killings at the hands of other black folks. That would be a truly transformational thing to accomplish. The graph would radically transform, so much that it would be unrecognizable as the same statistical analysis.
But no, lets focus on the least statistically significant threat to black lives, and fool ourselves into thinking that we are helping keep black folks alive.
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BLM is primarily about racism.
BLM isn't solely about Policemen killing black people.
You are focusing on the wrong thing.
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This is from their website:
global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes
https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
Why limit its focus to statistically insignificant threats to black lives? Because the focus is not on saving black lives. It has a dangerous political/ideological agenda below the surface.
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Limit???
I see some "ands" in there.
In case you don't know what "and" means please use a dictionary.
Seems a pretty broad mission statement to me.
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It could have 50 ands, it would still be limited in scope to the point that it avoids the actual significant issue in the black community. There is no more serious issue than preventable death. Causing intentional death by violence without justification comes close.
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agree its a political agenda,, BLM has nothing to do with "black lives".
taken from their website mission statement
"""We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression""""
now what the heck does sexual identity have to do with a black man being killed by KKK cops ? nothing . they are riding on the coat tails of a real civil rights movement to promote far leftist and satanic immoral agendas (satanist worship of transgender and homo sexuality.. thats their main agenda and their using a civil rights movement for black men to promote it)
they are just piggy backing on black people to promote a totally separate agenda . thats what weirdo leftists always do. they create false fronts and try to gain political power via deception and reverse psychology.
a moral black man promoting BLM is utterly dooped and deceived. just as much as a black man who votes democrat is
the whole race issue is a false front for whats really going on . imo
a moral black man should totally ditch the propaganda of BLM, and start his own way of thinking and free his mind from the corrupt bullshit that has surrounded and tried to control him
these fools be marching down the street chanting "black lives matter" not even knowing the corrupt satanic political agenda they are supporting . they should just be supporting themselves, their intellect, and their families . not some wacky left wing feminist and transgender organization. wtf.. wake up people .
the left wing kkk feminist homo satanist wackos have got a lot of the black population dooped into thinking its right wing conservatives that are the racists . when its not at all .. just the opposite. read some history books and stop depending on social media or some other bullshit news station for your information (I'm talking to black men who support BLM and other left wing groups)
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you are dumb as a rock.
do you know what regardless means??
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Depending upon where you live, you have a significantly higher percentage of gay and transgender blacks (and Latinos). It could be perceived as an uncool image for a race of men who have been oppressed and need to hold themselves up to a more “masculine” image. This is very possibly where they were going with that, not just randomly throwing in another “weirdo” agenda.
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We’re also not paying random criminals with public funds. Random criminals did not take an oath to serve and protect. Random criminals do not have unions. Random criminals aren’t given departmentally issues firearms.
Do I really need to go on?
This isn’t about “statistically significant”. That’s where you have it fucked up. I promise you, statistics mean fuck all to the families of those who are killed, regardless of the source of demise. What you are saying is that this kind of shit should be ignored, because “it doesn’t happen as often as X”.
Do you realize how ridiculous that argument is?
Strychnine poisoning is pretty rare anymore. That doesn’t make you any less dead if you end up with a product contaminated with it.
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Yes, you really do need to go on. You still haven’t shown how Floyd is any more dead than Johnson. How is it relevant how the killers make their living? Dead is dead, period.
So we legislate on emotions now? or is it facts?
Where did i say it should be ignored. I just dont like to see such energy and potential wasted by being misdirected to a non-issue. It could really be used to make a difference in the number of black folks killed each year, but sadly, it is not.
I dont see how you dont get it. Of course the poison is rare, and deadly, but if we were spending, as a country, millions of man hours protesting against it, and if we had all kinds of property burned and businesses destroyed over it, wouldn’t you object to that waste of energy and resources? I certainly could see better directions for all that effort, such as protesting to educate on the dangers of bad diets destroying the health of our country.
Where would you get more bang for the buck of protesting, against Strychnine or against poor diet and foods that are killing Americans every year due to contributing to all kinds of preventable diseases?
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That depends upon whether or not said poison were being intentionally introduced by a small minority of sadistic assholes, and then said sadistic assholes being covered for by systemic racism.
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Explain what systemic racism is. If you cant define it, it is an unsolvable issue not worth mentioning.
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The trust that is given to them is the trust to uphold their oath to serve and protect.
They gave an oath.
We trust them to uphold it.
Really simple concept.
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That’s not implied trust. And its no different than any government worker. We expect them all to do the job they are getting paid for. That’s the simple concept. Cops are no different.
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Policeman are different.
They have a different job.
They take an oath.
"On my honor, I will never betray my badge, my integrity, my character or the public trust. I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions. I will always uphold the constitution, my community, and the agency I serve."
IACP_Oath_of_Honor_En_8.5x11_Web.pdf
https://www.theiacp.org/sites/defaul...8.5x11_Web.pdf
Please stop comparing policeman to garbagemen.
No disrespect to sanitation but one carries a gun and the other doesn't.
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Every government worker takes an oath, at least in my state. You swear to uphold the constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New York. There is opportunities for corruption in every public job, hence the oath.
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Oh, I’m not going to argue against that for even a second. Trust me: every single thing that I have said regarding police should apply to every single public sector worker.
The difference is, we don’t have firemen who’s direct actions lead to deaths (except for the occasional arsonist psychopath who deserves an even higher punishment than random criminal arsonists), nor garbage collectors regularly “accidentally” forgetting to stop the compactor when they hear someone inside. And ya’ know, I couldn’t tell you the last time I heard about a judge “accidentally” signing off on the death penalty for someone writing rubber checks.
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And the law takes that into account. What would be a misdemeanor crime for someone may be a felony for a civil servant.
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I didn’t take an oath as a teacher. I could have unintentionally killed a student a couple of years back and with a skilled lawyer, rightfully gotten a lighter sentence (even if it was recorded).
When your job is to protect lives, you should be given certain latitude while at the same time being held to a higher standard. You intentionally cross the line, your ass should be hung from a hook.
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And giving an anecdotal example is not defining the term. What is systemic racism?
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