Depressed? A healthy way out!

[David LoPan]

I downloaded a book (audio) titled Unfuck Yorself It has been helping me.

[Gallowmere]

I downloaded a book (audio) titled Unfuck Yorself It has been helping me.

That and The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck are on my to-read list. I may end up going the audiobook route though, just because I cannot fucking sit still when I am in a caloric surplus.

[David LoPan]

That and The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck are on my to-read list. I may end up going the audiobook route though, just because I cannot fucking sit still when I am in a caloric surplus.

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck is my next audiobook. Got them free from my torrent site.

[hammerheart]

Well I stopped putting women on a pedestal in fifth grade already. There was one girl I liked and one random St Valentines I gifted her with a necklace. She tossed it in the bin.

I def see your point but it just gets too poor of an experience the way you propose it, plainly not worth it imo.

Media can't brainwash me, but I do find stereotypes about women are no more than about men. We aren't all primitive animals. We grow as human beings by confronting with our instincts and moderating them. I shan't be led astray by chemical urges from the man I want to be. Nor I will be suppressing them...

I'm ranting, it's early in the morning and I haven't slept. Good nite obs.

[Obs]

Well I stopped putting women on a pedestal in fifth grade already. There was one girl I liked and one random St Valentines I gifted her with a necklace. She tossed it in the bin.

I def see your point but it just gets too poor of an experience the way you propose it, plainly not worth it imo.

Media can't brainwash me, but I do find stereotypes about women are no more than about men. We aren't all primitive animals. We grow as human beings by confronting with our instincts and moderating them. I shan't be led astray by chemical urges from the man I want to be. Nor I will be suppressing them...

I'm ranting, it's early in the morning and I haven't slept. Good nite obs.

Well shit... I am a primitive animal led by chemicals and I like it so much I squirt extra chemicals into myself to make it even more so.

The little twat threw that necklace in the bin because she was playing the usual neutering games women play that they are trained to play by modern society. She was actually saying she liked you. Not kidding they are that fucked up in the head on average.

In most womens eyes it becomes a matter of screwing you or stabbing you when one really likes you. Hell I have had them try to do both at the same time. It is not meaningless. Its my favorite hobby in fact. Its not hard either.

Wtf am I doing awake at 4;:00 am

[THIS1]

Hey.

I'm only 25 and less experienced at life than most of you but I've been through a bit. I've really been depressed since I was about 12. I don't talk about it to people. I know I probably should and get some help. I got through college near the top of my class. But I've dropped out of 3 different law schools the last 2 years after only showing up the first day. I've been homeless for most of the last 2 years since I graduated college. The one thing that hasn't changed is my training. I really chose to spend my money on training, food, and gear instead of a home. The one reason why I haven't hanged myself is because I have to sleep so I go get to the gym in the morning. Then, when I look at myself in the mirror I think "I have so much potential and I look great, so why throw it away."

I recently got arrested for possessing anabolic steroids. I have no money left and no gear and no gym access for a few weeks. I decided I had to go back and live with my parents to get myself back on my feet. I found a low paying job that I plan to help save up for a few months until I can get some gear again and get my own place again in a large city, not like this rural trash hole my parents live in with nothing happening.

The funny thing is I still plan on going to another law school next year. I've dropped out 3 times so why try another? I know I'll just drop out again. I'm really an introverted nerd who found the gym in my late teens and got hooked and gave away my dream of being a lawyer. I'm a huge disappointment to everyone in my family. It's not their fault and I'm a screw up because of my own choices, but coming from a strict and hardcore Catholic family who put me through 13 years of school in a monastery and didn't let me do anything helped make me this way. I didn't go to prom. In college I didn't go out much. All I've focused on the last few years is my training. I haven't done anything with a girl or been in a relationship and I'm 25! I can't talk to ladies anymore because I feel I have nothing to offer them and they'll just laugh at me and turn me down even if I have a body and I'm not a dbag.

People have told me like people on this site and the cops that I need to just forget about training and gear because it's put me here. But I'm not going to be anything special in life. The only thing that's giving me any hope and a reason to not shoot myself is training. Bodybuilding is survival for me. Just being away for the week I've been away since I got arrested is driving me crazy.

I'm sure I'm nowhere near rock bottom yet. I can't imagine how bad that could be. I've already lost my future, all my friends, all my money, and I've been arrested and homeless in the few years since I graduated college. My new dream in life is just to get my own place, find a girlfriend and work any job paying just enough to buy my gear.


I also get angry often. I have several breakdowns per week. I can't have a phone for more than a month. I get frustrated when I see skinny douches at the gym in their $400 leggings having no idea what they're doing thinking they're a badazz and pretend to be a rapper talking about how hard it's been for them in the hood when they're really spoiled brats.

[RaginCajun]

Hey.

I'm only 25 and less experienced at life than most of you but I've been through a bit. I've really been depressed since I was about 12. I don't talk about it to people. I know I probably should and get some help. I got through college near the top of my class. But I've dropped out of 3 different law schools the last 2 years after only showing up the first day. I've been homeless for most of the last 2 years since I graduated college. The one thing that hasn't changed is my training. I really chose to spend my money on training, food, and gear instead of a home. The one reason why I haven't hanged myself is because I have to sleep so I go get to the gym in the morning. Then, when I look at myself in the mirror I think "I have so much potential and I look great, so why throw it away."

I recently got arrested for possessing anabolic steroids. I have no money left and no gear and no gym access for a few weeks. I decided I had to go back and live with my parents to get myself back on my feet. I found a low paying job that I plan to help save up for a few months until I can get some gear again and get my own place again in a large city, not like this rural trash hole my parents live in with nothing happening.

The funny thing is I still plan on going to another law school next year. I've dropped out 3 times so why try another? I know I'll just drop out again. I'm really an introverted nerd who found the gym in my late teens and got hooked and gave away my dream of being a lawyer. I'm a huge disappointment to everyone in my family. It's not their fault and I'm a screw up because of my own choices, but coming from a strict and hardcore Catholic family who put me through 13 years of school in a monastery and didn't let me do anything helped make me this way. I didn't go to prom. In college I didn't go out much. All I've focused on the last few years is my training. I haven't done anything with a girl or been in a relationship and I'm 25! I can't talk to ladies anymore because I feel I have nothing to offer them and they'll just laugh at me and turn me down even if I have a body and I'm not a dbag.

People have told me like people on this site and the cops that I need to just forget about training and gear because it's put me here. But I'm not going to be anything special in life. The only thing that's giving me any hope and a reason to not shoot myself is training. Bodybuilding is survival for me. Just being away for the week I've been away since I got arrested is driving me crazy.

I'm sure I'm nowhere near rock bottom yet. I can't imagine how bad that could be. I've already lost my future, all my friends, all my money, and I've been arrested and homeless in the few years since I graduated college. My new dream in life is just to get my own place, find a girlfriend and work any job paying just enough to buy my gear.


I also get angry often. I have several breakdowns per week. I can't have a phone for more than a month. I get frustrated when I see skinny douches at the gym in their $400 leggings having no idea what they're doing thinking they're a badazz and pretend to be a rapper talking about how hard it's been for them in the hood when they're really spoiled brats.

Sounds like you need to stop complaining and do something about it. Save some money, get some blood work done. If you have been on and off of juice , maybe you screwed up some hormones and need to get on some things to correct it. The hormones can be playing a role in drive to want to be better!

You seem smart, focus on yourself, and seek some free help. Go talk to a stranger and ask them how their day is going

[paul_]

I'm just going to let this here.

Very short and quick story, as a child my parents had a lot of conflicts. My mother is bipolar. I always got my mind fucked up with 1 warm and 1 cold if you understand what I mean. Since 14, I started abusing alcohol and cigarettes, later sinking into cannabis, speeds, halucinogens, etc. It's been almost 2 years when I have attempted suicide with xanax overdose. Now I know chances to die from that weren't that high, but back then swallowing my full fist of pills and drowning into that deep sleep I thought I made it.

Next day I wake up all fucked up, I look in the mirror and I ask myself what the fuck am I doing ? This isn't me. And then I figure out that I have to find out who am I. So I dress up and go hit up a run. I run until I run out of breath, I take a small break then I run again. After 1 hour of running around the city like that, I get such a good relaxed feeling, something that no other drug ever gave me. 255 lbs around then ~30% bodyfat.

Since then I managed to quit any drugs and cigarettes, I still consume alcohol from time to time because it gets hard, I get sad but I'm not depressed. It's natural to get sad at times.

What helped me the most were Anthony Robbins youtube videos and books. I got only "Awake the giant withing" and made me shift fast without prescribed drugs, without psychological therapy. I really recommend you guys checking his books. There are many more people talking about this, but his tellings made me understand the best.

And what I have learned is :
- What we think about most of the time is what we are slowly becoming.
- Depression can't happen if you do not allow yourself to go that path. It's when the dark thoughts are coming that we let them flow and get us sink, to hit the rock bottom. I get them now as well - You are shit, You are nothing but failure - but then I stop it and I say " Fuck you, I am dope".
- Make small goals and long goals. Every small goal will make you feel good and maintain you on track finishing that long goal.
- Affirmations 2-3 times a day, regulary, same hour same amount of time. Think what you want and feel you already have. "Say I AM MONEY BABY"
- It does not matter what happens outside. I see the post above me "I get frustrated when I see skinny douches at the gym in their $400 leggings having no idea what they're doing thinking they're a badazz" - they have their own karma's and own paths. You have yours. All you can do is smile back and wish them the best. There are millions of people fucking up every day, but you can only change one of them - and that is YOU (for now). Life is a game and it's not about who can make it faster but about who can make it further. The long terms commitments are always more worth than short ones.

And also don't go in this journey named life alone. Let people in your life, some will hurt you, but they won't hurt more than you allow to. Don't expect anything from anyone and you will be surprised.

[THIS1]

I'm so screwed up that people don't believe me.

[PeanutbutterDC]

... without prescribed drugs, without psychological therapy...


- Depression can't happen if you do not allow yourself to go that path....

Self help books can be fantastic, but seriously get professional help. There is nothing shameful about addressing emotional and mental health issues through therapy and meds. Let's destigmatize this.

I absolutely disagree that depression can't happen if you do not "allow" yourself...
Let's not blame the afflicted for their affliction! Shit like this is what keeps people from getting help

[hammerheart]

I absolutely disagree that depression can't happen if you do not "allow" yourself...
Let's not blame the afflicted for their affliction! Shit like this is what keeps people from getting help

This

[MuscleScience]

Self help books can be fantastic, but seriously get professional help. There is nothing shameful about addressing emotional and mental health issues through therapy and meds. Let's destigmatize this.

I absolutely disagree that depression can't happen if you do not "allow" yourself...
Let's not blame the afflicted for their affliction! Shit like this is what keeps people from getting help

Exactly, suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US. For every one suicide death 25 attemp it!

Sometimes just talking to someone helps relieve a lot of life pressure. We talk to people about other problems we have from car trouble to tooth aches. But not when our soul is broke or achy.

[wellshii]

I can attest to that. We cant decide our imbalances or whatever is going on.
Suicide is impulsive as well. Hence why people can vanish in a blink of an eye. I know this for a fact.

[wellshii]

If only I could find the motivation to work out.
Ever try Neurofeedback?

[hammerheart]

If only I could find the motivation to work out.

Just do it, works for me, despite the unrelenting fatigue of lately.

[wellshii]

Wish it was that easy man. Today I am though.lol.
Neurofeedback seems to be working. So far only 2 sessions in. Possible placebo.

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, I am well over this suicide shit. Life is too short as it is, it'll b over before you know it.


Everything is temporary - even life itself



But, now it seems that people r damn near weaker than ever. Crying & bitching about every possible thing - and everything has to b political correct. . . OMG, someone looked at me - I'm being bullied. . . . STFU



Or - they'll come & shoot a place up then off themselves - at that rate, plz go kill yourselves before doing harm onto inocent others.

[MuscleScience]

Shit, I am well over this suicide shit. Life is too short as it is, it'll b over before you know it.


Everything is temporary - even life itself



But, now it seems that people r damn near weaker than ever. Crying & bitching about every possible thing - and everything has to b political correct. . . OMG, someone looked at me - I'm being bullied. . . . STFU



Or - they'll come & shoot a place up then off themselves - at that rate, plz go kill yourselves before doing harm onto inocent others.

Bullying is bad and we should talk to our kids and teach them not to bully and how to deal with being bullied. But to act like we can eradicate bullying is to deny human nature. A bully will only stop bullying once he/she is stood up too. That’s the only way. You can tattle and have classes and putout hashtags all you want. A bully only understands power. It only takes popping a bully back in the nose once for them to get it most times.

At the same rate, these people that are “anti-bullying,” will go on TV or the internet and name call Trump supports, or republicans or NRA members all in the same breath. Being a dick to someone just because you don’t like or agree with them is still being a bully FYI.

[Obs]

Good God! I made some posts in here deep into the cycle!
Daaamn!

I don't even remember making some of these...

What a foul mouth horny prick!

[MuscleScience]

I had completely forgot about this thread. Even though it’s in my signature

I just recently went through a very rough patch. But I’m proud of myself for how I’ve handled big time stress this go round. I’ve continued to workout, eat relatively good, been going to cousilong at my church and one thing I never do... I went to my MD for help with my anxiety.

All those things have helped. Also great support from my Girlfriend whom I was about to propose to and buy land with. I was down on myself for a few days.
But I looked at what I still had, which isn’t much and was thankful. Especially that I still had her. I was so afraid she would dump me. However, the only way that would happen is if I started to self destruct and go into a pity party. In the past I would have devolved into self defeating behavior. I’m still having a rough time but I learned what I needed to learn from my last mistake and have stuck to my healthy habits.

Cheers

[Riggar]

great post dude!!