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    Quote Originally Posted by the titan99 View Post
    ^^that was me, thanks ron. So, since i'm not going to take any insulin, (i know you don't) do you think it's still best to go 7 days a week with the gh?

    I hurt my arm doing heavy curls again!!!! Damn!! Felt a pop half way through the second rep. The physio said it's not too bad, but it hurts to rotate my wrist both ways. Tri pushdowns don't hurt, but bi anything, flies and pulling (back) do. 3 weeks from the end of my cut!! (i've been reloading for 16 weeks now) all i can really do is legs and incline presses (still have rotator problems with my right shoulder so i can't do decline or flat bench) and work my right arm on bi/tri day. I guess this is says a lot for slingshot training and periodization. I said earlier i really didn't want to prime after the 31st, but is this a good indicator of a need for it? Would you deload for 2 weeks, then prime or prime then reload (or deload)? God this is frustrating as hell!! Does this happen to a lot of guys in contest prep?
    you should not be lifting heavy after the age of 40 under any circumstances (especially pre-contest) if you you are prone to joint/tendon pain like you have been experiencing. You need to always pre-exhaust with cable curls for biceps before even thinking about doing a few sets of free weight work, if at all. Use slow reps and concentrate of getting a nice squeeze! Think bodybuilding not powerlifting!!! You are just going to keep hurting yourself because you apparently have thin tendons and they cannot keep up with your muscle growth.

    Regarding gh- if diabetes runs in your family then 5 days on/2 days off would be a good idea if you plan to use long term.


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    [QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5770017][b]you should not be lifting heavy after the age of 40 under any circumstances (especially pre-contest) if you you are prone to joint/tendon pain like you have been experiencing. You need to always pre-exhaust with cable curls for biceps before even thinking about doing a few sets of free weight work, if at all. Use slow reps and concentrate of getting a nice squeeze! Think bodybuilding not powerlifting!!! You are just going to keep hurting yourself because you apparently have thin tendons and they cannot keep up with your muscle growth.

    Regarding gh- if diabetes runs in your family then 5 days on/2 days off would be a good idea if you plan to use long term.


    Thanks Ron. Yea,I'm sure your right as usual. There are a few lifts where it seems I get to a certain weight and then get injured, slowly work my way back, then it happens again. BB/EZ bar curls 52.5/55 kg is the wall. Decline/flat bench 145 kg. Skull crushers were another one but I quit doing those so I can't remember the weight. Then again there are exercises like squats/Deads (anything back work related) where it seems like the skys the limit.

    So how do you achieve progressive overload if you don't use more and more weight? Do you think pre-exhausting the muscle with cables like you suggested, slower reps, maybe more volume? Shorter intervals between sets? Maybe not move up in weight till I hit 12-15 reps? I've always tried to increase weight at 9-10 reps for my first set. I don't care about powerlifting (luckily!!) but I definitely want to get bigger. Getting old REALLY blows. People have been telling me that I was too old to be doing what I'm doing for 20 years now. Looks like its finally happening. Maybe the GH will help...

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    Hey Ron,

    Im in i think week 11-12 in my Cut. I started at 194 and I was 180.9 this morning. So Ive been making progress and dont have much more to go before Ill stop cutting.

    I started this cycle with 800mg of Primo, 300 Test and 50var.
    I am now at 600 Primo, 500 Test, 50 Var and 150-200 Deca a week as my arm joints are killing me.
    Ive only done the deca for 2 weeks and i may stop if you think that with the test will retain water on me. I am also going to up my Var to 75 for the last month.

    My issues are I have been around 180-183 for the last 4 weeks it seems. I cant seem to get much lower. I am at about 1750 Calories a day , 250 protein, 96 Carbs and 45 Fat. My carbs only take place in my first meal which is preworkout and my post workout. The carbs i get after are from green veggies.

    I was doing a clean refeed on Thursday where would drop fats and replace with carbs. I would get around 200 carbs and 250 protein and keep calories the same. I am thinking about dropping this refeed and just sticking to the cheat on Sunday.

    On sunday I would have a cheat day with carbs and Fats. Breakfast would be Pancakes and a protein shake.. Next few meals are clean, then for dinner I would eat pizza or a burger and fries and finish with some ice cream. Funny thing is I never gained more then a lb on this Sunday cheat.

    I have also been taking T3 before bed at 37.5mcg Pharma grade. "Can i take this in the morning? my sleep hasnt been that good not sure if its the t3. Should I up to 50mcg? I dont want to lose muscle, I am a little guy and dont have much to lose.

    ALso i carry all my fat in my gut, my upper body and arms are lean and by looking at me in a tank top at the gym I look to be way under 10% but im not.

    Here are 2 pics of me now.

    Oh and I also do cardio 5- 6 times a week for 30 minutes after training. I keep my heartrate at about 130-140.


    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/morningn.jpg/

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/gymlean.jpg/

    The pic you can barley see my abs is taken upon waking when Im dehydrated. The minutes i get up drink water and have my morning shake they are gone lol. I just want abs all day long, i can still grab the fat or skin there.
    Last edited by slimshady01; 10-07-2011 at 09:31 AM.

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    Hey Ronnie,

    I just got done reading your entire thread and I must say(while it was very long) that it is one of the most comprehensive guides on lifting and dieting I have ever read. Everything is explained in great detail and backed up with evidence, I loved it! I've been doing a lot of things wrong throughout my lifting career and I want to start a blast cycle immediately. I would love some advice on my upcoming cycle! I know you get a ton of messages a day but if you take the time to read this I would sincerely appreciate it. I bolded the questions.

    My bio and stats:

    6'1'', 200 lbs, about 10% BF(guess), Male, 24 years old. I am a division one football player, have been playing football for the last 9 years. I have been lifting for the past 6 years. For you to get a general sense of my strength, my maxes are: bench-295lbs, squat-355lbs, hang clean-275lbs. My season begins in March, so I want to get a solid blast cycle in before I report to training camp in February.

    My workout plans for next cycle:
    I want to exercise 5 days a week, train each body part once a week EXCEPT for chest, which I want to do twice a week. What would a good split for that? Is that feasible? I plan to do reverse pyramid for my first chest day(6 work sets) and straight sets for my second chest day(6 work sets). Would I not be able to do secondary chest exercises because my work sets would get too high? All other days the key exercises would be 6 work sets, and 3 work sets for two secondary exercises(total: 12 work sets for the week, each body part). The aforementioned would be for my 8 week "reload" cycle. Do I have the spacing of the "reload" and "deload" correct: 8 weeks of "reload" then 2 weeks of "deload" or is it 4 weeks "reload" then 1 week of "deload" and repeat?

    My diet plans for the next cycle:
    I project my BMR to be 3,000 calories, I want to gain weight, so I will shoot for 3,500 calories. 45% will be protein(so I get my 400grams of protein, 2 grams per lb of body weight), 40% will be carbohydrates, 15% will be from healthy fat sources. Since I have to train for my sport, I will have 2, sometimes 3 days of fairly intense cardio throughout the week, which I will perform on my off days(one cardio will have to overlap with one of my upper body lifting days). Is there anything I should be doing specifically in regards to this diet?

    My supplementation:
    I will be taking 80mg of anavar ed for 8 weeks, as well as 10g of creating mono, glutamine, and a vitamin. PCT will be nolvadex.

    THANKS SO MUCH!
    Last edited by ThatAthlete82; 10-10-2011 at 07:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatathlete82 View Post
    hey ronnie,

    i just got done reading your entire thread and i must say(while it was very long) that it is one of the most comprehensive guides on lifting and dieting i have ever read. Everything is explained in great detail and backed up with evidence, i loved it! I've been doing a lot of things wrong throughout my lifting career and i want to start a blast cycle immediately. I would love some advice on my upcoming cycle! I know you get a ton of messages a day but if you take the time to read this i would sincerely appreciate it. I bolded the questions.

    my bio and stats:

    6'1'', 200 lbs, about 10% bf(guess), male, 24 years old. I am a division one football player, have been playing football for the last 9 years. I have been lifting for the past 6 years. For you to get a general sense of my strength, my maxes are: Bench-295lbs, squat-355lbs, hang clean-275lbs. My season begins in march, so i want to get a solid blast cycle in before i report to training camp in february.

    my workout plans for next cycle:
    i want to exercise 5 days a week, train each body part once a week except for chest, which i want to do twice a week. what would a good split for that? Is that feasible? day 1) chest, day 2 back, day 3 shoulders, day 4 chest/arms, day 5 legs off 2 days then repeat. . i plan to do reverse pyramid for my first chest day(6 work sets) and straight sets for my second chest day(6 work sets). would i not be able to do secondary chest exercises because my work sets would get too high? what 3 or 4 exercises for chest do you plan to use?? other days the key exercises would be 6 work sets, and 3 work sets for two secondary exercises(total: 12 work sets for the week, each body part). You should try 8-9 sets for arms and only 5-6 sets for body parts like traps, calves and hams.The aforementioned would be for my 8 week "reload" cycle. do i have the spacing of the "reload" and "deload" correct: 8 weeks of "reload" then 2 weeks of "deload" or is it 4 weeks "reload" then 1 week of "deload" and repeat?8 and 2 then repeat is correct.

    my diet plans for the next cycle:
    i project my bmr to be 3,000 calories, i want to gain weight, so i will shoot for 3,500 calories. 45% will be protein(so i get my 400grams of protein, 2 grams per lb of body weight), 40% will be carbohydrates, 15% will be from healthy fat sources. Since i have to train for my sport, i will have 2, sometimes 3 days of fairly intense cardio throughout the week, which i will perform on my off days(one cardio will have to overlap with one of my upper body lifting days). is there anything i should be doing specifically in regards to this diet?diet looks okay but you may find that 350 grams of protein daily are adequate and that you need more fats.

    my supplementation:
    i will be taking 80mg of anavar ed for 8 weeks, as well as 10g of creating mono, glutamine, and a vitamin. Pct will be nolvadex.

    Thanks so much!
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    hey ronnie,

    i just got done reading your entire thread and i must say(while it was very long) that it is one of the most comprehensive guides on lifting and dieting i have ever read. Everything is explained in great detail and backed up with evidence, i loved it! I've been doing a lot of things wrong throughout my lifting career and i want to start a blast cycle immediately. I would love some advice on my upcoming cycle ! I know you get a ton of messages a day but if you take the time to read this i would sincerely appreciate it. I bolded the questions.

    my bio and stats:
    6'1'', 200 lbs, about 10% bf(guess), male, 24 years old. I am a division one football player, have been playing football for the last 9 years. I have been lifting for the past 6 years. For you to get a general sense of my strength, my maxes are: Bench-295lbs, squat-355lbs, hang clean-275lbs. My season begins in march, so i want to get a solid blast cycle in before i report to training camp in february.

    my workout plans for next cycle:
    i want to exercise 5 days a week, train each body part once a week except for chest, which i want to do twice a week. what would a good split for that? Is that feasible? day 1) chest, day 2 back, day 3 shoulders, day 4 chest/arms, day 5 legs off 2 days then repeat. . i plan to do reverse pyramid for my first chest day(6 work sets) and straight sets for my second chest day(6 work sets). would i not be able to do secondary chest exercises because my work sets would get too high? what 3 or 4 exercises for chest do you plan to use?? other days the key exercises would be 6 work sets, and 3 work sets for two secondary exercises(total: 12 work sets for the week, each body part). You should try 8-9 sets for arms and only 5-6 sets for body parts like traps, calves and hams.The aforementioned would be for my 8 week "reload" cycle. do i have the spacing of the "reload" and "deload" correct: 8 weeks of "reload" then 2 weeks of "deload" or is it 4 weeks "reload" then 1 week of "deload" and repeat?8 and 2 then repeat is correct.

    my diet plans for the next cycle:
    i project my bmr to be 3,000 calories, i want to gain weight, so i will shoot for 3,500 calories. 45% will be protein (so i get my 400grams of protein , 2 grams per lb of body weight), 40% will be carbohydrates, 15% will be from healthy fat sources. Since i have to train for my sport, i will have 2, sometimes 3 days of fairly intense cardio throughout the week, which i will perform on my off days(one cardio will have to overlap with one of my upper body lifting days). is there anything i should be doing specifically in regards to this diet?diet looks okay but you may find that 350 grams of protein daily are adequate and that you need more fats.

    my supplementation:
    i will be taking 80mg of anavar ed for 8 weeks, as well as 10g of creating mono, glutamine, and a vitamin. Pct will be nolvadex .

    Thanks so much!
    What would you suggest my secondary chest exercises be? I was thinking flat bench DB flys and incline press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    Hey Ron,

    Im in i think week 11-12 in my Cut. I started at 194 and I was 180.9 this morning. So Ive been making progress and dont have much more to go before Ill stop cutting.

    I started this cycle with 800mg of Primo, 300 Test and 50var.
    I am now at 600 Primo, 500 Test, 50 Var and 150-200 Deca a week as my arm joints are killing me.
    Ive only done the deca for 2 weeks and i may stop if you think that with the test will retain water on me. I am also going to up my Var to 75 for the last month.I would increase deca to 3-400 per week and decreasing test to 250-300 to try and get some some joint relief.

    My issues are I have been around 180-183 for the last 4 weeks it seems. I cant seem to get much lower. I am at about 1750 Calories a day , 250 protein, 96 Carbs and 45 Fat. My carbs only take place in my first meal which is preworkout and my post workout. The carbs i get after are from green veggies.

    I was doing a clean refeed on Thursday where would drop fats and replace with carbs. I would get around 200 carbs and 250 protein and keep calories the same. I am thinking about dropping this refeed and just sticking to the cheat on Sunday.

    On sunday I would have a cheat day with carbs and Fats. Breakfast would be Pancakes and a protein shake.. Next few meals are clean, then for dinner I would eat pizza or a burger and fries and finish with some ice cream. Funny thing is I never gained more then a lb on this Sunday cheat.

    I have also been taking T3 before bed at 37.5mcg Pharma grade. "Can i take this in the morning? my sleep hasnt been that good not sure if its the t3. Should I up to 50mcg? I dont want to lose muscle, I am a little guy and dont have much to lose. You can do 50mcgs max but keep in mind it's going to make you hungrier. If you add in another daily cardio session (20-30 minutes in the morning on an empty stomach) the belly fat should dissapear. Also, clen helps with stubborn belly fat.

    ALso i carry all my fat in my gut, my upper body and arms are lean and by looking at me in a tank top at the gym I look to be way under 10% but im not. I am the same way!

    Here are 2 pics of me now.

    Oh and I also do cardio 5- 6 times a week for 30 minutes after training. I keep my heartrate at about 130-140.


    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/morningn.jpg/

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/gymlean.jpg/

    The pic you can barley see my abs is taken upon waking when Im dehydrated. The minutes i get up drink water and have my morning shake they are gone lol. I just want abs all day long, i can still grab the fat or skin there.You are looking good. With your genetics you will have to lose some muscle in other places to get those abs to come in fully. I am in the same boat and it's a real pain. You also have the option of doing a keto diet to bring out those abs .
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    Thanks for answering the above question!

    After this cut I plan on take 6 weeks off at 200-250 test a week. After that I plan on a clean bulk of test only for the first 8.

    I want to go 750mg a week and was considering sus250. Should I do that or stick to test Enth? If Sus how would I dose?days?
    Last edited by slimshady01; 10-08-2011 at 07:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    thanks for answering the above question!

    After this cut i plan on take 6 weeks off at 200-250 test a week. After that i plan on a clean bulk of test only for the first 8.

    I want to go 750mg a week and was considering sus250. Should i do that or stick to test enth? If sus how would i dose?days?you can do either. I do not think there is that much of a differnce between the two but if possible i would run both together! Some find they have less water bloat and more strength gains with sustanon while experiencing less libidio. If you run sustanon alone do 1 1/2 ccs every other day. If you do both test together use 1 cc of sustanon and 1/2 of test-e every other day or 3 times per week.
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    Hey Slim,
    You are looking good man!! Hang in there, your working at iy harder than me. It makes me up my game starting now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Hey Slim,
    You are looking good man!! Hang in there, your working at iy harder than me. It makes me up my game starting now...
    haha ill take your abs anyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    haha ill take your abs anyday
    I guess we all get one good card and then others not as good. With the abs I also got the arms of a f**king gibbon!!

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    Hello Big Ronnie i have some questions:

    1-I a big reader from Mick Hart and already tried his low dosages cycles and got good results...But now i wanna try at least 400mg/w Testo-Cypionate , 400mg/w Deca , 100mg/d Stanozolol , and want to add Dbol to give the kick start. What would be a wise dosage? My aim is to bulk as much as i can for 8 or 10weeks...

    2-I usually have acne and follyculitis during a cycle , what can i do to minimize this? Finasteride? Cyproterone acetate? Clen the skin with sulfur and salicilic acid?

    3- What is the reccomended time for me to start again a course after the PCT ?

    4- Is there any problem to take Clenbuterol during PCT ?

    God bless you friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the trooper View Post
    hello big ronnie i have some questions:

    1-i a big reader from mick hart and already tried his low dosages cycles and got good results...but now i wanna try at least 400mg/w testo-cypionate , 400mg/w deca , 100mg/d stanozolol , and want to add dbol to give the kick start. What would be a wise dosage? My aim is to bulk as much as i can for 8 or 10weeks...750 mgs of test, 400 mgs of deca, 25 mgs of d-bol and no winstrol would be needed.

    2-i usually have acne and follyculitis during a cycle , what can i do to minimize this? Finasteride? Cyproterone acetate? Clen the skin with sulfur and salicilic acid? anti-biotics from a dermatologist can help. Accutane also helps but i would not take it unless it was horrific! A tanning bed also helps some as does frequent showering.

    3- what is the reccomended time for me to start again a course after the pct ? i would do a 20 week cycle then pct. Then it would depend on your goals and if you want children?

    4- is there any problem to take clenbuterol during pct ? no

    god bless you friend!
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    So here are my problems,
    I started keto about 4 weeks ago and my weight has been fluctuating between 123-125. I lost definition in my legs and they look bigger. but i suppose my upper body is looking a little more defined. I need to lose that last 10-15lbs. I am 19% body fat and would like to get down to 14%. I'm becoming discouraged at this point and don't know what to do! It would be awesome if you can help me out of what i should do. Here is a sample of my food log
    Food Name
    Amount
    Unit
    Cals
    Fat (g)
    Carbs (g)
    Prot (g)
    Delete
    Total
    1,232
    80.1
    11.5
    117.0
    Egg, white only, raw

    34
    0.1
    0.5
    7.2

    Egg, whole, raw

    143
    9.9
    0.8
    12.6

    Macadamia nuts, unroasted

    41
    4.3
    0.7
    0.4

    Chicken, breast, skin not eaten

    229
    5.0
    0.0
    43.1

    Macadamia nuts, unroasted

    203
    21.6
    3.6
    2.2

    Poultry food products, ground turkey, raw

    169
    9.4
    0.0
    19.8

    Chicken, breast, skin not eaten

    92
    2.0
    0.0
    17.2

    Soy protein isolate, PROTEIN TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL, Pro...

    53
    0.6
    0.0
    12.0

    Broccoli, raw

    30
    0.3
    5.8
    2.5

    Olive oil

    239
    27.0
    0.0
    0.0

    Total
    1,232 Calorie
    80.1 Fats
    11.5 Carbs
    117.0 Protein

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    Quote Originally Posted by zena1234 View Post
    So here are my problems,
    I started keto about 4 weeks ago and my weight has been fluctuating between 123-125. I lost definition in my legs and they look bigger. but i suppose my upper body is looking a little more defined. I need to lose that last 10-15lbs. I am 19% body fat and would like to get down to 14%. I'm becoming discouraged at this point and don't know what to do! It would be awesome if you can help me out of what i should do. Here is a sample of my food log
    Food Name
    Amount
    Unit
    Cals
    Fat (g)
    Carbs (g)
    Prot (g)
    Delete
    Total
    1,232
    80.1
    11.5
    117.0
    Egg, white only, raw

    34
    0.1
    0.5
    7.2

    Egg, whole, raw

    143
    9.9
    0.8
    12.6

    Macadamia nuts, unroasted

    41
    4.3
    0.7
    0.4

    Chicken, breast, skin not eaten

    229
    5.0
    0.0
    43.1

    Macadamia nuts, unroasted

    203
    21.6
    3.6
    2.2

    Poultry food products, ground turkey, raw

    169
    9.4
    0.0
    19.8

    Chicken, breast, skin not eaten

    92
    2.0
    0.0
    17.2

    Soy protein isolate, PROTEIN TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL, Pro...

    53
    0.6
    0.0
    12.0

    Broccoli, raw

    30
    0.3
    5.8
    2.5

    Olive oil

    239
    27.0
    0.0
    0.0

    Total
    1,232 Calorie
    80.1 Fats
    11.5 Carbs
    117.0 Protein
    Are you taking any fat burners/muscle builders like clen or anavar? What does your weight training and cardio look like? Do you plan on entering a figure or bikini contest? Provide me with details then I can tell you what you need to do!


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    -I am taking clen. I can only tolerate about 40 mcg a day.
    -As for my weight training i lift 6 days a week and as of right now im doing 3X15 supersets. I am actually following the "Jamie Eason's Live 12 week trainer" program and i am on phase 3. Here is the link to the program -> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jami...on.html#phases
    -For my cardio i am walking fast on 15%-18% incline on the treadmill for 30 mins 3-4 times a week
    - and yes i am planning on entering a bikini contest!

    Thanks sooo much Ronnie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zena1234 View Post
    -I am taking clen. I can only tolerate about 40 mcg a day.
    -As for my weight training i lift 6 days a week and as of right now im doing 3X15 supersets. I am actually following the "Jamie Eason's Live 12 week trainer" program and i am on phase 3. Here is the link to the program -> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jami...on.html#phases
    -For my cardio i am walking fast on 15%-18% incline on the treadmill for 30 mins 3-4 times a week
    - and yes i am planning on entering a bikini contest!

    Thanks sooo much Ronnie!
    My recommendations for you are as follows:

    1) Train with weights only 3-4 days per week and stop the super sets! Jamie Eason looks the way she does due to her genetics not her weight training program per se. You need to stick with straight sets and just move faster between sets. 60 second rest between sets is about right and keep reps at 12-15 per set. Lift intense to help build muscle and burn fat. I would suggest doing around 6 sets per major body part once per week. For example quads- 3 sets of squats on smith machine and 3 sets of super lunges on smith machine. 4 sets of leg curls could suffice for hams.

    2) Increase cardio to 1 hour a day 6 times per week.No cardio on leg day!

    3) Stop clen until 8 weeks out from show because you will become immune. You will also want to add 50 mgs of t-3 to the 40 mcgs of clen 8 weeks out from show for further fat loss.

    4) Consider taking 5 mgs of anavar daily to increase lean muscle and overall body composition.

    5) A good training split for you would be:

    Monday-chest/biceps/abs
    Wednesday-back/triceps
    Friday-Shoulders/Legs
    Last edited by Ronnie Rowland; 10-23-2011 at 06:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    My recommendations for you are as follows:

    1) Train with weights only 3 days per week and stop the super sets! Jamie Eason looks the way she does due to her genetics not her weight training program per se. You need to stick with straight sets and just move faster between sets. 60 second rest between sets is about right and keep reps at 12-15 per set. Lift intense to help build muscle and burn fat. I would suggest doing around 6 sets per major body part once per week. For example quads- 3 sets of squats on smith machine and 3 sets of super lunges on smith machine. 4 sets of leg curls could suffice for hams.

    2) Increase cardio to 1 hour a day 6 times per week.No cardio on leg day!

    3) Stop clen until 8 weeks out from show because you will become immune. You will also want to add 50 mgs of t-3 to the 40 mcgs of clen 8 weeks out from show for further fat loss.

    4) Consider taking 5 mgs of anavar daily to increase lean muscle and overall body composition.

    5) A good training split for you would be:

    Monday-chest/biceps/abs
    Wednesday-back/triceps
    Friday-Shoulders/Legs

    Thanks for the advice Ronnie! How about for nutrition? What do you recommend for me?
    and for Cardio, where should my heartbeat be around?
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    correction* I am actually not yet planning on entering a bikini contest i would like to sometime in the beginning of next year

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    Yes i am taking clen but i can only tolerate about 40 mcg a day
    -As for my weight training i left 6 times a week. I am following the "Jamie Eason's live 12 week trainer" program at the moment. Which involves super-setting and hitting parts of my body twice a week. High reps, heavy weights
    - For my cardio i am walking on fast pace, on incline of the treadmill for 30 mins 3-4 times a week
    - and no I am actually not yet planning on entering a bikini contest i would like to sometime in the beginning of next year. I just would like my body to be quite similar to a bikini body.

    By the way i am 5'2, weight is 123. and i have 19% body fat

    Thank you so much Ronnie!
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    QUOTE=ricky23;5771615]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post


    thanks for the advice ronnie.
    do you think using 8 week reloads as per normal (gh year round 8-10ius pharm grade) slin/igf-1/t3 on a 4 week on 6 week off basis is a good plan going forward? I would run it all for 8 weeks then stop slin, igf and t-3 during deloads. I would suggest decreasing GH to 2ius daily during deloads just to keep sides down.
    this is something im looking into for next year, right now i think saving up for pharm grade gh and getting my tendon surgery out the way is best.
    ive seen aas literally transform my physique in the past year even after my pec tear but in order for me to progress i think i will have to go very high doses. it is something im not against doing as i dont suffer serious sides only blood pressure increase which is genetic in my family.
    do you think i should exhaust the very high dose approach first before resorting to the above? If you have high blood pressure issues I would go with the new plan by adding slin, igf, t-3 and gh and forget the higher doses approach using more aramoatizing anabolics.
    ive just finished a short burst cycle for 4 weeks after my illness (not sure if you remember) as i was lean enough to start with full abs after losing muscle and fat from being sick (used it a prime)
    which was a shot of sustanon everyday for 4 weeks , 2 shots of tren blend everyday for first 2 weeks and 1 shot npp ed for remaining 2 weeks
    i responded really well gaining 7kg in total and actually lost some fat aswell (think it was the high dose tren) not much water retention as i normally get bad back and shin pumps when this happens but not this time and no moon face!.yes it was the tren and the fact you have been off for some time!
    this is the max gear ive done.
    i was thinking for my next reload (in 4-6weeks time after clearing out recetprs with deload and prime) i would go for 2g test 1g tren and 50-100mg anadrol for usual 8 week reload. That's the max I would go, if your blood pressure can handle it. Keep a check on blood perssure daily and if it gets out of control decrease everything!
    weight now is 245lbs around 10-12%
    let me know what you think ronnie, appreciate your advice.
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    im pretty sure ive got gyno, im pretty rattled what do i do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeletal pump View Post
    im pretty sure ive got gyno, im pretty rattled what do i do?
    start nolvadex at 40mgs ed then switch over to something like .05 mgs of arimidex eod for maintenance once its gone.

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    hey ron, as regards a deca/winstrol cycle for mma, why is it considered such a gud mix, cut hard look with strength from winstrol and strength and increased cardio ablility with deca have i this right ? what the detections times with deca 18 months ? theres a shorter ester version of deca available so it makes sense to use this, thus reducing the detection time of deca in your system to be about 3 months im told ? also without test will you loose ur sex drive or will the winstrol keep you good? last, wots the best/highest doses you recommend for both compounds with this cycle? thanks for the help ron

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    ronnie...pre-exhaustion.. good or not???

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    ronnie...pre-exhaustion.. good or not???PRE-EXHAUSTION TRAINING TECHNIQUES ARE NOT GOOD! Here's why-Lets pretend we are going to pre-exhaust with flyes before declines presses for chest. When you fatigue the chest with an isolation exercise such as flat flyes then move to a compound exercise such as decline presses, you will actually stimulate less muscle fibers of the chest. Why? Because once the pectoral fibers become fatigued the triceps come into play quicker during each sets of declines . So basically what you have done is created just the opposite effect of what you set out to do. The same principle applies to rest-pause training. After the first rest -paused set the triceps would come into play quicker during each following set-hence stimulating the fibers of the chest less and less even when only a compound exercise is being used. Pre-exhaustion, rest-pause, super sets, etc work to some degree but no where near the degree of straight sets. A lot of muscle magazines have been sold and will continue being sold by promoting such training methods to those who do not know any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lynxeffect1 View Post
    hey ron, as regards a deca/winstrol cycle for mma, why is it considered such a gud mix, cut hard look with strength from winstrol and strength and increased cardio ablility with deca have i this right ? yes what the detections times with deca 18 months ? around 12 months or longer theres a shorter ester version of deca available so it makes sense to use this, thus reducing the detection time of deca in your system to be about 3 months im told ? i'm not 100% sure but my my guess is that the short acting deca still stays in system for quite a while. also without test will you loose ur sex drive or will the winstrol keep you good? winstrol will generally decerase sex drive. You need some test. Clast, wots the best/highest doses you recommend for both compounds with this cycle? deca 400 mgs per week, winstrol 50 mgs daily and test 500 mgs weekly thanks for the help ron
    ab ove

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    what about epo added onto this cycle of test/deca/win ? jus how good/strong is epo compared to the steroids mentioned? im also having trouble finding the pricing for epo and the only recommended dosages i can find is from this site saying 1000iu a day for 14 days ? thanks again ron !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynxeffect1 View Post
    what about epo added onto this cycle of test/deca/win ? jus how good/strong is epo compared to the steroids mentioned? im also having trouble finding the pricing for epo and the only recommended dosages i can find is from this site saying 1000iu a day for 14 days ? thanks again ron !
    Why are you running epo? That drug can be very dangerous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    Why are you running epo? That drug can be very dangerous!
    im not running it at all ron, a friend who does mma came across articles about it being used in cylcing and that it wud be great for mma, i cudnt find much info about if for him myself apart from the profile on this site, it never said anything about it being very dangerous ,just to watch your blood pressure and stay hydrated, thats why i was asking you ron, from your reaction i can see to tel my mate stay well clear of it! thanks again ron

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    hi Ron im looking at starting a 1st cycle in january, im doing 20 weeks on test with the slingshot system, two 8 week cycles with two 2 week deloads going from 500 to 250 mgs on test then on to full pct at week 21 , my question is about pct, i can obtain nolvadex and hcg but cant get clomid, would you recommend using nolva/ hcg with no clomid for full 4 week pct here?

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    Hi Ron.. What's up?
    I have finished 40 weeks slingshot cycle (4 times reloads+deloads). I finished 4 weeks of PCT last week. Now I am gonna take another 6-8 weeks OFF before jumping back ON.

    In my country, enanthate is more expensive than sustanon 250. I can get 2 ampoules of test enanthate at the same price as 3 ampoules of sustanon 250.
    Which one gives better result?
    500mg of Test Enanthate (Testoviron Depot) per week or 750mg of Sustanon 250 per week?
    What do you think I should go with?

    I always use test as a base of every cycles I have run.
    Other compound I usually use is deca as second injectable compound and another oral like dbol.

    Many Thanks Ron...
    God Bless You Always...

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    Hi ron, I think you missed my post in page 87
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...87#post5775187

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Hi Ron.. What's up?
    I have finished 40 weeks slingshot cycle (4 times reloads+deloads). I finished 4 weeks of PCT last week. Now I am gonna take another 6-8 weeks OFF before jumping back ON.

    In my country, enanthate is more expensive than sustanon 250. I can get 2 ampoules of test enanthate at the same price as 3 ampoules of sustanon 250.
    Which one gives better result?
    500mg of Test Enanthate (Testoviron Depot) per week or 750mg of Sustanon 250 per week?
    What do you think I should go with?

    I always use test as a base of every cycles I have run.
    Other compound I usually use is deca as second injectable compound and another oral like dbol.

    Many Thanks Ron...
    God Bless You Always...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Hi Ron.. What's up?
    I have finished 40 weeks slingshot cycle (4 times reloads+deloads). I finished 4 weeks of PCT last week. Now I am gonna take another 6-8 weeks OFF before jumping back ON.

    In my country, enanthate is more expensive than sustanon 250. I can get 2 ampoules of test enanthate at the same price as 3 ampoules of sustanon 250.
    Which one gives better result? Opinions vary. I believe that mixing the enanthate and sustanon is the way to go. Adding in some cypionate is also a great idea. This way you are taking all the test-esters which provides the best synergetic effect possible.
    500mg of Test Enanthate (Testoviron Depot) per week or 750mg of Sustanon 250 per week? Why not 250 mgs of enan and 500 sust?What do you think I should go with?

    I always use test as a base of every cycles I have run.
    Other compound I usually use is deca as second injectable compound and another oral like dbol.

    Many Thanks Ron...
    God Bless You Always...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamjames View Post
    hi Ron im looking at starting a 1st cycle in january, im doing 20 weeks on test with the slingshot system, two 8 week cycles with two 2 week deloads going from 500 to 250 mgs on test then on to full pct at week 21 , my question is about pct, i can obtain nolvadex and hcg but cant get clomid, would you recommend using nolva/ hcg with no clomid for full 4 week pct here? Clomid is not a neccesity. I would run the hcg and nolva for 21 days.
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    Hey Ronnie, my 4th week of my second Reload is about to end. Absolutely blown away with my results to date. Strength has gone through the roof! I am running Test E - 750mgs/wkly Tren E - 700mgs/wkly Masteron - 500mgs/wkly and Anavar - 80mgs/daily HGH 3 I.U.'s daily 5 on 2 off. The suggestion of adding 20mgs of Nolvadex to the AI has kept my gyno completely away this round. Any suggestions for the following cycle what it should look like? Not sure if I want to run the Masteron the next cycle, looking to put more size on. Although the weight im putting on is a lot of quality weight. The last cycle I ended up at 224 lbs., im right at 230 4 weeks in to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
    Hey Ronnie, my 4th week of my second Reload is about to end. Absolutely blown away with my results to date. Strength has gone through the roof! I am running Test E - 750mgs/wkly Tren E - 700mgs/wkly Masteron - 500mgs/wkly and Anavar - 80mgs/daily HGH 3 I.U.'s daily 5 on 2 off. The suggestion of adding 20mgs of Nolvadex to the AI has kept my gyno completely away this round. Any suggestions for the following cycle what it should look like? If you could keep it the same (minus the masteron) and increase GH to 8 ius daily that would be idea.Not sure if I want to run the Masteron the next cycle, looking to put more size on. Although the weight im putting on is a lot of quality weight. The last cycle I ended up at 224 lbs., im right at 230 4 weeks in to date.
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    Hey Big Ronnie, thanks for the reply.
    I was worried about keeping the gear on the body all year round not because i want children right now, im only 27, i want children 10years later. My concern is about ball shrink and do not revert the inhibition of my axis pituitary-hipotalamus-gonads when stop the gear... Besides this can you send me a link that direct me to a thread about a good blast and cruise cycle as an example?

    Can you tell me what you think about this: people usually says that you need to stay away the steroids from time to time between cycles because we get used to it, like a down regulation that happens with the steroid´s receptors. Do you believe in it? Is it bullshit? We have to increase the dosages form time to time because of it???

    Thank you, God bless you.

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    hey ron, quick question about increasing steroid dosage after a bridge/8 week cycle. I know you said that after 8 weeks of a given steroid, your receptors become saturated and you need to either increase the dosage of the steroid or switch over to a different one in order to continue to make gains. MY question is that lets say I started at 500mg of test enth. and after a few 8 week cycles, I built up/increase my dosage to 1.25g of test enth. (about 250mg increase ever 8 weeks). And after my last 8 week cycle, 1.25g of test, I decide to come off steroids for 4 months and do a pct (pct lasting 1 month). Now when I decide to go back and start a new cycle(after the 4 month lay off), does my test enth dosage have to start at 1.25g?

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