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    Thanks for the advice Ronnie...Nice post!

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    Ronnie,

    About 2 weeks left in my cut before i cruise on 250 for about 6 weeks or more.

    I want to give blood and get blood tested before next cycle.

    Ive been following your/DaveP Keto diet for the last few weeks and love it. Im under 30 carbs a day and have a massive cheat on Sunday. I eat so much i feel like death but I keep waking up the next morning weighing less or no more then a 1lb gain. I think that is the t3? I did DaveP keto before all natty and used to gain 5lbs or so after a cheat.

    Anyways, after my cut is over in 2 weeks I will continue the Keto style diet to maintain over the next 6 weeks before i Bulk.

    I have realized my body does so much better on low carbs. I also get fat bulking even on 150+ carbs a day.

    For this next bulk what do you think about only taking in about 30 grams of carbs pre and post workout and the rest of the meals are Protein fat and green veggies.

    Could I also do my refeed day on Sunday where I load up on clean carbs, then in the evening have a cheat meal "pizza burger etc" Or will i accumulate to much fat from taking in carbs during the week.

    I want to grow yet i dont want to get fat like I always do on a bulk.

    I train M-F and take off Sat and Sun. Sat would be a no carb day and Sunday would be a refeed/cheat last meal if you think i can get away with this.

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    I'll try and get all these questions answered this weekend. Been slammed!

    Thank you,
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    [QUOTE=slimshady01;5785910]Ronnie,

    About 2 weeks left in my cut before i cruise on 250 for about 6 weeks or more.

    I want to give blood and get blood tested before next cycle.

    Ive been following your/DaveP Keto diet for the last few weeks and love it. Im under 30 carbs a day and have a massive cheat on Sunday. I eat so much i feel like death but I keep waking up the next morning weighing less or no more then a 1lb gain. I think that is the t3? I did DaveP keto before all natty and used to gain 5lbs or so after a cheat.

    Anyways, after my cut is over in 2 weeks I will continue the Keto style diet to maintain over the next 6 weeks before i Bulk.

    I have realized my body does so much better on low carbs. I also get fat bulking even on 150+ carbs a day.

    For this next bulk what do you think about only taking in about 30 grams of carbs pre and post workout and the rest of the meals are Protein fat and green veggies. I would not go lower than 125 carbs per day.

    Could I also do my refeed day on Sunday where I load up on clean carbs, then in the evening have a cheat meal "pizza burger etc" Or will i accumulate to much fat from taking in carbs during the week. go with the cheat meal and clean carb up on sat.
    I want to grow yet i dont want to get fat like I always do on a bulk. Carbs are not the only culprit, overall calories also matter. It could be that you do not have it in your genetics to weight a lot without getting fat. It's best you don't bulk but just eat normal and make slower/leaner gains
    I train M-F and take off Sat and Sun. Sat would be a no carb day and Sunday would be a refeed/cheat last meal if you think i can get away with this. I would not do a no carb day on sat before a sun carn load as your blood sugar will be all over the place. You will do better not bulking at all from what I am hearing.[/QUOTE]above

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    im looking at giving this a try but am curious as to whether my current macros are sufficient enough for such. im currently in my 5th week of test e @ 500mg a week, ran dbol for first 4 weeks as a kicker, and looking at running dbol as a bridge in the deload. my macros are: 370p/370c/80f give or take 5 grams of each. i eat very clean apart from the one reload meal a week. what im also wondering is should i run the 500mg for the next 3 weeks, then go to 250mg on the deload along with the dbol for 2 weeks, then back on to 500mg for another 8 weeks without dbol or what? then after 12 weeks in all has been completed, run 4 weeks of pct using nolva 40mg weeks 1&2, 30mg week 3 20mg week 4 (whilst still in my reload). not too sure if that makes sense or not....let me know if you want me to clear anyrthing up if its too confusing.

    oh im currently in a bulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loges View Post
    im looking at giving this a try but am curious as to whether my current macros are sufficient enough for such. im currently in my 5th week of test e @ 500mg a week, ran dbol for first 4 weeks as a kicker, and looking at running dbol as a bridge in the deload.run 250 mgs of test alone each week as your bridge instead of d-bol to give liver a break. my macros are: 370p/370c/80f give or take 5 grams of each. please dont take this wrong but you are over analyzing this whole thing when you are worried about 5 grams here and there. It won't make one bit of difference! No one but yourself will be able to tell which macronutrients work best for you. Your gonna have to experiment and find out if you are carb sensitive. If you are then reduce some of your carbs and replace them with fats until you hit a sweet spot for your body type. i eat very clean apart from the one reload meal a week. what im also wondering is should i run the 500mg for the next 3 weeks, then go to 250mg on the deload along with the dbol for 2 weeks, then back on to 500mg for another 8 weeks without dbol or what? I would run 500 mgs of test for entire 8 weeks along with 25 mgs of d-bol. Then do only 250 mgs of test for 2 week deload. Repeat another 8 weeks this time using 1000 mgs of test and 25 mgs of d-bol daily. Then pct after 2 week deload of 250 mgs of test per week. then after 12 weeks in all has been completed, run 4 weeks of pct using nolva 40mg weeks 1&2, 30mg week 3 20mg week 4 (whilst still in my reload). not too sure if that makes sense or not....let me know if you want me to clear anyrthing up if its too confusing.

    oh im currently in a bulk.
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    Ronnie, I have a question for you. I am nearing the end of a test suspension and tren a cycle. (150mgs test ed and 100mgs tren ed) with both of these being short esters and clearing quickly would I need to deload? If so how would I run the suspension for those 2 weeks? If not can I go straight into test e and deca? Your help is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Ronnie, I have a question for you. I am nearing the end of a test suspension and tren a cycle. (150mgs test ed and 100mgs tren ed) with both of these being short esters and clearing quickly would I need to deload? If so how would I run the suspension for those 2 weeks? drop suspension/tren and run 1 cc of test-e only for two weeks as your deload. Next start higher dosages of test-e and add in deca for 8 week reload. If not can I go straight into test e and deca? Your help is greatly appreciated.
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    Volume is not the only variable when trying to induce hypertrophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3863 View Post
    Volume is not the only variable when trying to induce hypertrophy.Correct, training intensity, rest time between sets, strength gains, time under tension, proper exercise cadence and periodization are also important.
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    Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    Ronnie, I have a question for you. I am nearing the end of a test suspension and tren a cycle . (150mgs test ed and 100mgs tren ed) with both of these being short esters and clearing quickly would I need to deload? If so how would I run the suspension for those 2 weeks? drop suspension/tren and run 1 cc of test-e only for two weeks as your deload. Next start higher dosages of test-e and add in deca for 8 week reload. If not can I go straight into test e and deca? Your help is greatly appreciated.
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    Thank you for replying so quickly. It's funny how one question breeds more questions. If I may ask a few more for clarification. My concern is that the suspension will be passed through in 2-3 days. It will take the test e 10-14 days to become active. Will this cause a shut down of my system? If I had been running a longer ester there would a countable amount in my blood level over the deload period. Maybe this isn't the case but need your thoughts on it. If that is the case would running 2500 ius of hcg e3d help? One more question please. Since I have been running 900mgs a week of test suspension , where would my starting point be for th first 4 weeks of test e? 1g ? Then 1.5g the next 4 weeks. Expecially since I will only be getting 72mgs per 100 mgs of the test e as compared to 100mgs per 100mg for suspension. Maybe I am over thinking this. If you can spare a little more time for me it will be greatly appreciated. I have been making some nice gains and would like to see if your method can get me a little closer to where I would like to be. Everyones feed back on your advise and help has been great. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    Ronnie, I have a question for you. I am nearing the end of a test suspension and tren a cycle . (150mgs test ed and 100mgs tren ed) with both of these being short esters and clearing quickly would I need to deload? If so how would I run the suspension for those 2 weeks? drop suspension/tren and run 1 cc of test-e only for two weeks as your deload. Next start higher dosages of test-e and add in deca for 8 week reload. If not can I go straight into test e and deca? Your help is greatly appreciated.
    above

    Thank you for replying so quickly. It's funny how one question breeds more questions. If I may ask a few more for clarification. My concern is that the suspension will be passed through in 2-3 days. It will take the test e 10-14 days to become active. The test becomes active hours after injection not 2 weeks later. Will this cause a shut down of my system? not entirely but some If I had been running a longer ester there would a countable amount in my blood level over the deload period. Maybe this isn't the case but need your thoughts on it. If that is the case would running 2500 ius of hcg e3d help? Some do opt to use hcg during deloads to improve sexual function. One more question please. Since I have been running 900mgs a week of test suspension , where would my starting point be for th first 4 weeks of test e? 1g ? 1.5 grams for entire 8 week reload Then 1.5g the next 4 weeks. Expecially since I will only be getting 72mgs per 100 mgs of the test e as compared to 100mgs per 100mg for suspension. Maybe I am over thinking this. If you can spare a little more time for me it will be greatly appreciated. I have been making some nice gains and would like to see if your method can get me a little closer to where I would like to be. Everyones feed back on your advise and help has been great. Thanks again.
    above

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    Ronnie you are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you for yor help. I will let you know how it goes.

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    Ron,

    I am into my second reload on a 20 week blast. I was considering running a second blast back to back but was wondering if it's OK to stop after a 3rd reload instead of running a full 4. Also my doses so far

    1st reload 500 test/400 deca
    1st deload 250 test
    2nd reload 750 test/400 deca
    2nd deload 250 test

    for the 3rd reload I was thinking of keeping the test at 750 and bringing up the deca to 600. Would that be OK or is it just better to bring the test up again to say 1g test/ 400 deca? I also got some 50mg winny tabs that i was considering running the last 6 weeks of the blast. Would I need to finish those before the 3rd deload or can I run it right up to before I start PCT?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djdizzy View Post
    Ron,

    I am into my second reload on a 20 week blast. I was considering running a second blast back to back but was wondering if it's OK to stop after a 3rd reload instead of running a full 4. Yes its okay to stop after 3rd reload. Also my doses so far

    1st reload 500 test/400 deca
    1st deload 250 test
    2nd reload 750 test/400 deca
    2nd deload 250 test

    for the 3rd reload I was thinking of keeping the test at 750 and bringing up the deca to 600. Would that be OK or is it just better to bring the test up again to say 1g test/ 400 deca?Take test to 1 gram and deca at 400 I also got some 50mg winny tabs that i was considering running the last 6 weeks of the blast. Would I need to finish those before the 3rd deload or can I run it right up to before I start PCT? run winstol at 50 mgs daily right up until you finish 3rd reload.

    Thanks!
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    I can attest to this, i ran sus for 10 weeks. As soon as I came into my 9th week i felt terrible. This was a great read, i'll give this training method a go in a few weeks time

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    Posting in here what I posted in my own thread since it seems I can get lots of views but no replies. Would love some help Ronnie <3

    Hey all I'm just getting all my cycle info together going to start a cycle of M1Test I just recently obtained.

    So far I'm I'm trying to follow NSA's outline and basic cycle guide he posted.

    Week 1-4 : Will be doing 5g creatine daily, saw it in PCT but I don't see why not put it here as well.
    Week 1-4 : M1Test 15mg ED (Might bump up to 30mg we shall see, have 60 pills at 15mg/pill)
    Week 1-4 : Hawthorn Berry Extract 1500mg ED
    Week 1-4 : Can't find the 4-ad anywhere having crappy luck, looking for a replacement for it so need suggestions - Found a 4-AD RD product by advanced muscle science, would love any reviews on it or knowledge if anyone has used. Thanks again
    Week 1-5 : Tribulus Terrestris, Maca Root, DAA 2,250mg ED (To counter act lethargy/beneficial herb)

    Considering throwing in 1000mg Milk Thistle (Was curious if could do the milk thistle/estro blocker I have listed in PCT or if I need just Milk Thistle alone) to assist in liver protection figure better safe then sorry. Opinions would be loved, I don't drink and haven't drank more then few times in my life.

    PCT

    Week 5-8 Looking to pick up Nolvadex 40mg ED then down to 20mg ED after two weeks. Currently have a 2 in 1 PCT that contains 100mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 300mg N-Acetyl Cysteine, 500mg Milk Thistle, 250mg Dandelion Root, 200mg SAM-e, 250mg Stinging Nettle. Curious as to the comparison of this with Nolvadex

    Week 5-8 Milk Thistle 1000mg ED (Need to know if supplement listed above will be ok to take even with all the extras or if should just buy Milk thistle by itself)

    Week 5-8 Clomid Therapy, I've found where to get some Clomi but I've heard this might not be necessary but once again I'd prefer to take all the proper precautions. Just would like your guy's opinions.

    Would love any suggestions/ideas of what I can do to make this cycle more efficient or if possible for any good sites that can provide good PCTs (That are legal, not requesting illegal products so please no ban haha) Thanks again for the read I'll respond and check this thread promptly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyLee1337 View Post
    Posting in here what I posted in my own thread since it seems I can get lots of views but no replies. Would love some help Ronnie <3

    Hey all I'm just getting all my cycle info together going to start a cycle of M1Test I just recently obtained.

    So far I'm I'm trying to follow NSA's outline and basic cycle guide he posted.

    Week 1-4 : Will be doing 5g creatine daily, saw it in PCT but I don't see why not put it here as well.
    Week 1-4 : M1Test 15mg ED (Might bump up to 30mg we shall see, have 60 pills at 15mg/pill)
    Week 1-4 : Hawthorn Berry Extract 1500mg ED
    Week 1-4 : Can't find the 4-ad anywhere having crappy luck, looking for a repla***ent for it so need suggestions - Found a 4-AD RD product by advanced muscle science, would love any reviews on it or knowledge if anyone has used. Thanks again
    Week 1-5 : Tribulus Terrestris, Maca Root, DAA 2,250mg ED (To counter act lethargy/beneficial herb)

    Considering throwing in 1000mg Milk Thistle (Was curious if could do the milk thistle/estro blocker I have listed in PCT or if I need just Milk Thistle alone) to assist in liver protection figure better safe then sorry. Opinions would be loved, I don't drink and haven't drank more then few times in my life.

    PCT

    Week 5-8 Looking to pick up Nolvadex 40mg ED then down to 20mg ED after two weeks. Currently have a 2 in 1 PCT that contains 100mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 300mg N-Acetyl Cysteine, 500mg Milk Thistle, 250mg Dandelion Root, 200mg SAM-e, 250mg Stinging Nettle. Curious as to the comparison of this with Nolvadex

    Week 5-8 Milk Thistle 1000mg ED (Need to know if supplement listed above will be ok to take even with all the extras or if should just buy Milk thistle by itself)

    Week 5-8 Clomid Therapy, I've found where to get some Clomi but I've heard this might not be necessary but once again I'd prefer to take all the proper precautions. Just would like your guy's opinions.

    Would love any suggestions/ideas of what I can do to make this cycle more efficient or if possible for any good sites that can provide good PCTs (That are legal, not requesting illegal products so please no ban haha) Thanks again for the read I'll respond and check this thread promptly.
    This cycle is too short to do anything postive. I prefer 20 week cycles minimum. 4 weeks is not a good plan IMO and I am not a fan of MIT due to it's harsh side effects.

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    Ronnie you're very knowledgeable. I must give you major credit! My question happens to deal with Real Primobolan, Anavar, T-bol, Test E or Prop. 30 years old. 5/11 223. ex Pro athlete. My protocols were much different back then. In Your Opinion, Can Primobolan be helpful for men or strictly for women. Also what are the pro's and con's of Primobolan with your slingshot concept? I will await your answer. Thank you sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHealth View Post
    Ronnie you're very knowledgeable. I must give you major credit! My question happens to deal with Real Primobolan, Anavar, T-bol, Test E or Prop. 30 years old. 5/11 223. ex Pro athlete. My protocols were much different back then. In Your Opinion, Can Primobolan be helpful for men or strictly for women. It can be a little helpful for men when a high enough of dosage is used but it's over rated IMO. Also what are the pro's and con's of Primobolan with your slingshot concept? The cons are its pricey, it's weak other and it could lower your sex drive. The pros are few androgenic side effects. If you re running anavar you should not need primobolan. Test is best! I will await your answer. Thank you sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
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    Thank you again Ronnie.

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    Hey Ronnie, my 4th week of my second Reload is about to end. Absolutely blown away with my results to date. Strength has gone through the roof! I am running Test E - 750mgs/wkly Tren E - 700mgs/wkly Masteron - 500mgs/wkly and Anavar - 80mgs/daily HGH 3 I.U.'s daily 5 on 2 off. The suggestion of adding 20mgs of Nolvadex to the AI has kept my gyno completely away this round. Any suggestions for the following cycle what it should look like? If you could keep it the same (minus the masteron) and increase GH to 8 ius daily that would be idea.Not sure if I want to run the Masteron the next cycle, looking to put more size on. Although the weight im putting on is a lot of quality weight. The last cycle I ended up at 224 lbs., im right at 230 4 weeks in to date.
    So do not increase my dosages of Test E, Tren E or Anavar? I have enough Anavar to run up to 100mgs but, have always felt that my dosages 80mgs were not much different than 100mgs? As for increasing the dosage of GH to 8 i.u.'s started today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
    So do not increase my dosages of Test E, Tren E or Anavar? I have enough Anavar to run up to 100mgs but, have always felt that my dosages 80mgs were not much different than 100mgs? As for increasing the dosage of GH to 8 i.u.'s started today. If you increase GH you can keep anabolics the same for now because adding GH causes a synergistic muscle building effect by increasing IGF-1 levels. This will give you more bang for your buck with less side effects. I agree that the difference between 80 and 100 mgs of var are not noticeable. I think you'll find that 40-60 mgs of anavar is more than adequate.
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    Samspalace. No one is going to help you with a source. Sorry. We don't condone the use of illegal substances on this site. If you're of age, you may want to visit a HRT wherever you live.

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    This board and particularly this thread isn't it though.
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    hey ron, you missed my question on top of page 88, here it is again. thank you in advice

    hey ron, quick question about increasing steroid dosage after a bridge/8 week cycle . I know you said that after 8 weeks of a given steroid , your receptors become saturated and you need to either increase the dosage of the steroid or switch over to a different one in order to continue to make gains. MY question is that lets say I started at 500mg of test enth. and after a few 8 week cycles , I built up/increase my dosage to 1.25g of test enth. (about 250mg increase ever 8 weeks). And after my last 8 week cycle , 1.25g of test , I decide to come off steroids for 4 months and do a pct (pct lasting 1 month). Now when I decide to go back and start a new cycle (after the 4 month lay off), does my test enth dosage have to start at 1.25g?

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    [QUOTE=yaston2003;5801217]hey ron, you missed my question on top of page 88, here it is again. thank you in advice

    hey ron, quick question about increasing steroid dosage after a bridge/8 week cycle . I know you said that after 8 weeks of a given steroid , your receptors become saturated and you need to either increase the dosage of the steroid or switch over to a different one in order to continue to make gains. MY question is that lets say I started at 500mg of test enth. and after a few 8 week cycles , I built up/increase my dosage to 1.25g of test enth. (about 250mg increase ever 8 weeks). And after my last 8 week cycle , 1.25g of test , I decide to come off steroids for 4 months and do a pct (pct lasting 1 month). Now when I decide to go back and start a new cycle (after the 4 month lay off), does my test enth dosage have to start at 1.25g? In this case you could start back at 500 mgs per week and make good gains. No need in going as high as 1.25 grams per week when you take off that long.[/QUOTE]above

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    [QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5802806]
    Quote Originally Posted by yaston2003 View Post
    hey ron, you missed my question on top of page 88, here it is again. thank you in advice

    hey ron, quick question about increasing steroid dosage after a bridge/8 week cycle . I know you said that after 8 weeks of a given steroid , your receptors become saturated and you need to either increase the dosage of the steroid or switch over to a different one in order to continue to make gains. MY question is that lets say I started at 500mg of test enth. and after a few 8 week cycles , I built up/increase my dosage to 1.25g of test enth. (about 250mg increase ever 8 weeks). And after my last 8 week cycle , 1.25g of test , I decide to come off steroids for 4 months and do a pct (pct lasting 1 month). Now when I decide to go back and start a new cycle (after the 4 month lay off), does my test enth dosage have to start at 1.25g? In this case you could start back at 500 mgs per week and make good gains. No need in going as high as 1.25 grams per week when you take off that long.[/QUOTE]above
    thanks again ron

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    Hey Ron. I never used any oral liver protection products at all. Actually I never use any oral products besides t-bol/anavar. IV therapies to me IMO are the best way to get vitamins and minerals in the body besides FOOD. I've used t-bol/anavar for 6 months without any liver damage due to IV Glutathione. For Cardiovascular supplements, it's IV EDTA Chelation. IM resveratrol IM curcumin and thymosin beta 4. I believe in healthy intelligent bodybuilding. Since I don't compete professionally any longer, It is all about life long health. I have great genetics but I don't want to compete so my goals are much more different. The reason why I asked you about primobolan is because I'm not looking to gain muscle quick rather over time. My next cycle consist of this. 20 week sling shot. 600mg Primo, 600mg Test E. 400mg Tren E 60mg of t-bol for the first 8 weeks. 2 week 300mg test E and 200mg primo. The last 8 weeks 1000mg primobolan 800mg test E 600mg Masteron E & 80mg Anavar. Then PCT. Now one thing I didn't mention. IGF r-3 keeps my balls in tact through out the cycle. I used it every 3rd day. All of my guys use it and never have issues with shutdown. I am not saying it takes the place of HCG but it does help tremendously. Last but not least I take 50Mg of Proviron every night before bed & sermorelin instead of hgh. Just in case you didn't see my other post on stats. 5'11 223 30 years old. What are you thoughts. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHealth View Post
    Hey Ron. I never used any oral liver protection products at all. Actually I never use any oral products besides t-bol/anavar. IV therapies to me IMO are the best way to get vitamins and minerals in the body besides FOOD. I've used t-bol/anavar for 6 months without any liver damage due to IV Glutathione. For Cardiovascular supplements, it's IV EDTA Chelation. IM resveratrol IM curcumin and thymosin beta 4. I believe in healthy intelligent bodybuilding. Since I don't compete professionally any longer, It is all about life long health. I have great genetics but I don't want to compete so my goals are much more different. The reason why I asked you about primobolan is because I'm not looking to gain muscle quick rather over time. THATS A PRETTY HIGH DOSED CYCLE IS YOU ARE WANTING TO GAIN SLOWLY. I WOULD RECOMMEND STARTING BACK WITH SOEMTHING ALONG THE LINES OF 500 MGS OF TEST, 300 MGS OF TREN AND 20 MGS OF ANAVAR. My next cycle consist of this. 20 week sling shot. 600mg Primo, 600mg Test E. 400mg Tren E 60mg of t-bol for the first 8 weeks. 2 week 300mg test E and 200mg primo. The last 8 weeks 1000mg primobolan 800mg test E 600mg Masteron E & 80mg Anavar. Then PCT. Now one thing I didn't mention. IGF r-3 keeps my balls in tact through out the cycle. GH and IGF-1 act synergistically to augment the effect of either hormone taken individually so adding GH would be a good option. 20 mcgs of IFG-r-3 and 4ius of GH daily would work nicely for you. I used it every 3rd day. All of my guys use it and never have issues with shutdown. I am not saying it takes the place of HCG but it does help tremendously. Last but not least I take 50Mg of Proviron every night before bed & sermorelin instead of hgh. why not hgh? You could drop the primo and put that money towards GH. Just in case you didn't see my other post on stats. 5'11 223 30 years old. What are you thoughts. Thanks in advance.
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    Thank you for the response. I'm very fortunate to get medicine for much cheaper than the norm. This is the reason why I'm excited about primobolan. In your opinion, What's the most iu's you can use with GH per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHealth View Post
    Thank you for the response. I'm very fortunate to get medicine for much cheaper than the norm. This is the reason why I'm excited about primobolan. In your opinion, What's the most iu's you can use with GH per day. I think 8-10 ius daily is idea for bodybuilding.
    above

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    Hey Ronnie. Im a bit disappointed with my work ethic in my first blast. Put on 6lbs in 5 weeks. Can i extend this blast past 8 weeks to 12 weeks ? I know myostatin rises but what if i were to up my test doses & add an oral? Will i make any gains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RutgersFan View Post
    Hey Ronnie. Im a bit disappointed with my work ethic in my first blast. Put on 6lbs in 5 weeks. Can i extend this blast past 8 weeks to 12 weeks ? I know myostatin rises but what if i were to up my test doses & add an oral? Will i make any gains? Yes you can extend it with increased dosages and make further gains but I would not because a 5 pound lean muscle gain is exceptional and not taking the required down time will only hold you back in the long run.
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    another quick question, this one workout related. After doing my 4th set of decline barbell presses I have a pretty nice pump in my chest to a point where I can barely flex it. Now after moving to incline dumbell presses, I notice after my second set on those my pump is no where near the way it was after decline presses and be the time I get too my flies my chest pump is pretty much gone. I remember reading where you wrote that you rather hear someone say that they had a pretty nice pump after a workout vs how much weight they put up. So should I end my chest workout once I feel the pump fading?

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    Hey Ron,

    It\'s been a while. Had a run of bad luck.

    I'm 47 years old and have been doing 8 week cycles, then dropping back to 250 mg of Sustanon for 2 weeks, then back on. I've been doing this for about 15 months. I was going to drop to 250 mg for 6 weeks to take a break, and get primed for another year, then I got sick. My cycles consist of Test and sometimes Deca/Tren/ NPP/Masteron/ Var/ Proviron/dbol/T3/Clen at various doses depending on what I'm trying to do. I never have ED and I've never needed to take an AI, even on large doses of test/whatever. Tren raises my BP but I take meds for that when taking Tren. I live on an island and am isolated from any hospital (I'm going next week) but usually have basic BW done by the Vet on the island. I Got a really bad fever 2 weeks from the end of my cut. Haven't been able to lift for almost 6 weeks. Just this week I've been doing cardio for about a week, diets back on point and today I started lifting at half volume. Still feel weak from the sickness, but I assume a lot of it has to do with the hormonal imbalance. I've been on 4 iu's of gh 5 days a week since right before I got sick. 2 weeks ago reduced all steroids (for the first time in 15 months except for deloads) to 250 mg Test per week. I had a throat infection, lung infection and still feel like I have the remnants of a bladder infection. Constant abrupt need for urination. It's painless except for lately which feels almost like a hernia. I mention this later. I lost almost 30 lbs at the worst, but I'm back to 106 kg, still down from117 at the beginning of my sickness. I had a lot of small, niggling injuries but with the break all my injuries are cleared up now but I was wondering about blood work. Here's a complete list. I thought I could give you so you could just highlight the ones you'd suggest, considering the sickness and all, as well as the fact that I'm always on cycle. I have to travel quite a way to get to the hospital. I need to go next week since I was hit on my motorcycle yesterday and have a lot of pain when I went to the gym today for the first time. It's in my groin area just to the right of my pubic bone. I'm not sure I didn't have this pain before the accident. Maybe from the bladder problems? The supposed "Doctor" here on the island thought maybe prostate problem of some sort? What test should I request regarding that (PSA)? Hoping like hell it's not a hernia. But how the hell could it be? I haven't lifted for ever. Anyway, should I give blood first, then get the test or the other way around? What I'm asking is what would you have tested if you were cycling/hrt like me (also like you - I think we're the same age), as well as what would you have tested because of the infections and the sickness and possible prostate/hernia/ whatever? Maybe you could highlight what you get tested on STS and highlighting green what you would test for the sickness? Just an idea. I'm assuming a lot here with the infections (antibiotics cured the throat and lung, but the bladder is lingering but about 85% better, (maybe not infection). That's what's making me think prostate.)

    Here's the list.
    Lipid Panel
    HDL/LDL & Total cholseterol
    Triglycerides
    Homocystine
    WBC Total
    Neutrophils
    RBC Hemogolbin
    Hematocrit
    MCV
    MC Hemoglobin
    MCH concentration
    Platelets
    ABS Differential Basophils
    Lymphocytes
    Monocytes
    Sodium
    Potassium
    Chlorides
    Carbon Dioxide
    Glucose
    BUN
    Creatinine
    Calcium
    Total Protein
    Bilirubin
    Alkaline Phosphatas
    AST(SGOT)
    ALT(SGPT)
    Test Free & Total
    Luteinizing Hormone
    Estradiol
    T3
    T4 & Free T4
    TSH
    PSA - for prostate

    God this is confusing, I hope you can help. Take your time, I don't go for about a week...

    God this is confusing, I hope you can help....Thanks Ron
    Last edited by The Titan99; 11-14-2011 at 05:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the titan99 View Post
    hey ron,

    it\'s been a while. Had a run of bad luck.

    I'm 47 years old and have been doing 8 week cycles, then dropping back to 250 mg of sustanon for 2 weeks, then back on. I've been doing this for about 15 months. I was going to drop to 250 mg for 6 weeks to take a break, and get primed for another year, then i got sick. My cycles consist of test and sometimes deca/tren/ npp/masteron/ var/ proviron/dbol/t3/clen at various doses depending on what i'm trying to do. I never have ed and i've never needed to take an ai, even on large doses of test/whatever. Tren raises my bp but i take meds for that when taking tren. if you have to take blood pressure meds to use tren, then you should not be using tren! i live on an island and am isolated from any hospital (i'm going next week) but usually have basic bw done by the vet on the island. I got a really bad fever 2 weeks from the end of my cut. Haven't been able to lift for almost 6 weeks. Just this week i've been doing cardio for about a week, diets back on point and today i started lifting at half volume. Still feel weak from the sickness, but i assume a lot of it has to do with the hormonal imbalance. I've been on 4 iu's of gh 5 days a week since right before i got sick. 2 weeks ago reduced all steroids (for the first time in 15 months except for deloads) to 250 mg test per week. I had a throat infection, lung infection and still feel like i have the remnants of a bladder infection. Constant abrupt need for urination. prostate issue usually come about gradually, not abruptly so i think its the bladder infection. A hernia would not not affect your urinary system like this. It's painless except for lately which feels almost like a hernia. I mention this later. I lost almost 30 lbs at the worst, but i'm back to 106 kg, still down from117 at the beginning of my sickness. I had a lot of small, niggling injuries but with the break all my injuries are cleared up now but i was wondering about blood work. Here's a complete list. I thought i could give you so you could just highlight the ones you'd suggest, considering the sickness and all, as well as the fact that i'm always on cycle. I have to travel quite a way to get to the hospital. I need to go next week since i was hit on my motorcycle yesterday and have a lot of pain when i went to the gym today for the first time. It's in my groin area just to the right of my pubic bone. I'm not sure i didn't have this pain before the accident. Maybe from the bladder problems? maybe but have it checked out by a doctor. Even doctors cant give you an accurate diagnois until they see you and run the proper test. You need to go see a doctor. I would not worry about giving blood at this time. I also think in your case it would be wise to run pretty much straight test in the future as far as the anabolics are concerned and if your gh or anabolics are under ground then that could also cause problems for you as you really never know what you are getting. The supposed "doctor" here on the island thought maybe prostate problem of some sort? What test should i request regarding that (psa)? Hoping like hell it's not a hernia. But how the hell could it be? I haven't lifted for ever. Anyway, should i give blood first, then get the test or the other way around? What i'm asking is what would you have tested if you were cycling/hrt like me (also like you - i think we're the same age), as well as what would you have tested because of the infections and the sickness and possible prostate/hernia/ whatever? Maybe you could highlight what you get tested on sts and highlighting green what you would test for the sickness? Just an idea. I'm assuming a lot here with the infections (antibiotics cured the throat and lung, but the bladder is lingering but about 85% better, (maybe not infection). That's what's making me think prostate.)get your psa and hemocrit levels checked when having blood work and i feel its your bladder infection causing the pain.
    here's the list.
    Lipid panel
    hdl/ldl & total cholseterol
    triglycerides
    homocystine
    wbc total
    neutrophils
    rbc hemogolbin
    hematocrit
    mcv
    mc hemoglobin
    mch concentration
    platelets
    abs differential basophils
    lymphocytes
    monocytes
    sodium
    potassium
    chlorides
    carbon dioxide
    glucose
    bun
    creatinine
    calcium
    total protein
    bilirubin
    alkaline phosphatas
    ast(sgot)
    alt(sgpt)
    test free & total
    luteinizing hormone
    estradiol
    t3
    t4 & free t4
    tsh
    psa - for prostate

    god this is confusing, i hope you can help. Take your time, i don't go for about a week...

    God this is confusing, i hope you can help....thanks ron
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaston2003 View Post
    another quick question, this one workout related. After doing my 4th set of decline barbell presses I have a pretty nice pump in my chest to a point where I can barely flex it. Now after moving to incline dumbell presses, I notice after my second set on those my pump is no where near the way it was after decline presses and be the time I get too my flies my chest pump is pretty much gone. I remember reading where you wrote that you rather hear someone say that they had a pretty nice pump after a workout vs how much weight they put up. So should I end my chest workout once I feel the pump fading?Declines hit the bulk of your chest and thats why you are getting so pumped up with that exercise. Regardless of how you perform inclines the front delts take over a lot of the movement-hence the reason you are losing some of the pump in your chest. Also, if you are doing dumbbell flyes they are pretty much useless IMO as a chest pumping exercise and you need to be doing cable crossovers to provide continuous tensions and further pump up the pecs. I also think 3 sets of each exercise is enough volume (9 sets for chest total) for most people.
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