i just wanted to post this incase anyone wants to know.

in my first real cycle, i did test e and eq - after week 12 i waited for 3 weeks for the gear to clear and then hopped on pct. well, pct sucked. i was depressed felt like a girl and did not want to lift. it was the worst i have ever felt in my life and i hated it. almost to the point not to juice again. but i did any way

this time, i ran the same cycle just with higher doses. instead of waiting till the gear is out of my system i ran prop for an extra 4 weeks and jumped on pct after 3 days. i have not had one problem yet, ecept for acne. no mood swings, no depresion, and have tons of energy (off clen).

so the point of this post is atleast for me, recovery is easier with prop at the end and i will always continue to do this. so i think it might be in some of your best intrest to try this to make pct a little easier on you.