Ok deca and winny now what?

[Tforce]

Ok I am starting my cycle on Monday but I have no idea what to eat yet. i have heard so many things but if someone can give me a list of things that I should be eating would be great thanks bros!

[kronik]

Post you diet in the diet forum..They can critique it for you...

[damiongage]

why are you running deca and winny???

[sniper320]

Ok I am starting my cycle on Monday but I have no idea what to eat yet. i have heard so many things but if someone can give me a list of things that I should be eating would be great thanks bros!

**** son.

[Tforce]

I was told by some guy in the gym that will work is he wrong???

[Tforce]

I was told by some guy in the gym that will work is he wrong???

[Tforce]

I was told by some guy in the gym that will work is he wrong???

[Tforce]

I was told by some guy in the gym that will work is he wrong???

[sniper320]

I was told by some guy in the gym that will work is he wrong???

WTF?

[Tforce]

I was told by some guy in the gym that will work is he wrong???

[Tforce]

The guy that sold it to me told me that it will work I told him that I might need some tes and he told me no that this will work fine. Ok guys if I am getting scammed plz let me know

[damiongage]

The guy that sold it to me told me that it will work I told him that I might need some tes and he told me no that this will work fine. Ok guys if I am getting scammed plz let me know

He done told you wrong.........do some research on 1st cycles or novice cycles. But please do not listen to a thing that that guy is telling you........

[kronik]

The guy that sold it to me told me that it will work I told him that I might need some tes and he told me no that this will work fine. Ok guys if I am getting scammed plz let me know

I personally think he is trying to sell you 2 of his most expensive compounds...

[lukeduke01]

Yeah, why deca/winny? Trash the deca and replace it with Eq or Tren. Oh, and wait about 3-5 years too. I dont think youre up to par on youre Vitamin S education. JMO

[damiongage]

Yeah, why deca/winny? Trash the deca and replace it with Eq or Tren. Oh, and wait about 3-5 years too. I dont think youre up to par on youre Vitamin S education. JMO

He is in his mid twenty's...as long as he has been lifting for a few years I think he is fine to start.

[kronik]

You need to add test in there...

[Tforce]

srry about the repeat I have no idea what happened there.

[Tforce]

Yea I think I might to research it more before I jump into it. I mean I have asked around but everyone tells me something different. I just hope you guys can give me the advice a novice like me needs.

[Tforce]

Aww **** now I am spooked. God dam I went to high school with this guy how the hell can he scam me like this. So what do you all think I should take teh winny with?

[lukeduke01]

It depend on what your definition of "work" is. And do some research on your own before you do this, seriously.

[kronik]

Don't forget about PCT, it is a must...

[lukeduke01]

Tforce, what dosages are you planning on running with the deca and winny? Is the winny oral or injection? How long have you been training?

[lukeduke01]

The only way you got scammed is if its bunk gear. Yeah, winny is expensive, but its great stuff IMO. What I would do is get my hands on some test and run Deca 400mg/week for 10 weeks and Test 400mg/week for 12 weeks. This will put some mass on you.(Save the winny for your next cycle where you can cut up.) Dont start the deca/test until you have some nolvadex/clomid.

[damiongage]

lets start at the begining........test is the base for evey cycle....no test no cycle

[Tforce]

ok so I need to get my hands on some test. got it The problem is he the only ass I know that sells anything, what test would you guys think I should start with?

[Tforce]

Hey I am so srry that I keep bothering you guys but now I am freaked. What I have is called boldenone 200 from generic labs is thsi **** even real?

[lukeduke01]

Test E, Sust/Omnadren IMO.

[lukeduke01]

Boldenone is eq. Id have to see a pic to know if its real or not

[Tforce]

What does EQ mean, omfg I am such a neewb

[lukeduke01]

EQ is equipoise. good stuff

[Tforce]

So waht I have is EQ and not Deca?? The bottle reads boldenone 200? If so can I take that with winny? and what are the correct dosage? both are injectable just so u know

[lukeduke01]

No problem. Ideally you should inject the winny but do some research and you will see that its ok to drink.

[dive_kid]

you should have a good time with winny and eq.
now correct me if Im wrong.......I thought eq and winny shut ya down. you dont need test with those?

[lukeduke01]

That means it shuts down the production of your natural test levels

[Badgerman]

If you use TEST make sure the Nolvadex is there. I used just some test gel....the mellow stuff for old men......and only put on two packs of 5 a day.......bloated up like a big sausage......worst experience of my life. I just don't understand wanting all the test and then taking a bunch of ancillaries to handle the gross side effects. Maybe it's a macho thing.

[Tforce]

ok i have the pic of what i have now how do i post it?

[mark956101957]

Tforce...do not start your cycle tomorrow. You need more knowledge and the proper gear. For your first cycle you should make it simple like Test E or Test Cyp for 10 weeks, 400-500mg weekly, inject every 3rd or 4th day. Forget the winny and eq for now. You should of came here first, you are going to get bad info from people at the gym. Winny will shut you down very hard. Start with test only cycle...take 10mg Nolvadex every day and pct with clomid and nolvadex.

[Tforce]

Ok I will take you guys word for it. I will hold off I guess. I was so siked though but I guess I am not ready for that yet

[weightshead]

Ok I will take you guys word for it. I will hold off I guess. I was so siked though but I guess I am not ready for that yet

good call.

your health and gains will show for it in the future...

[Todd Scott]

Hey bro, you still with us?
Just thought that I would tell you a few things to get you going. I'm sorry if you already know it.
You should really run some king of testosterone with every cycle, This is to keep your test levels up if/when you 'shut down' shutting down means when your body stops producing its own hormones properly because you put so much synthetic hormone in yourself. Without running test you may lose your labido and become impotent for a few months, also you will lose all of your hard earned muscle when you come off of the gear as there will be no natural test to help you keep it.
When you take test it can convert or aromatise to oestrogen. oestrogen can cause you to retain water and fatty tissue. especially around you chest. (bitch tits) to stop this from hapening you should always have access to an anti oestrogen drug (anti e) like nolvadex. Look out for signs like itchy nipples or even lactation. If you get this, start taking anti e's.
when you stop taking steroids you need to run a Post Cycle Therapy PCT to kickstart your natural hormone production, or you will lose all of your gains. Have access to Clomid for this purpose.
If your testes begin to shrink in size you can counter this with HCG (Human chorionic gonadotropin) make sure that you have access to this also. if you need help with doses etc, just post a thread.
The stuff that your mate sold you is good stuff (if it is real) but using them together without test is not so good. I doubt that he was ripping you off, I guess that he doesn't really know too much himself (too few aas users do)
What are your goals? u wonna get huge or toned and hard?
Eat at least 5 meals a day all with 40-50 grams of good protien in (chicken breast, tuna, eggs, steak, low fat dairy)
Drink LOTS of water (as much as you can) this will help to keep your liver clean.
feel ferr to ask more.
good luck bro
Todd