Junior Member
I will do 6 weeks of T3 soon, Im going to use 75mcg at the most.
Question 1: I heard its a bad idea to start at 75mcg at once... so i wonder over how long period i should increase/decrease the dosage.
Question 2: How bad will i feel!? Any problems going to work? I mean will i sweat like hell or something?
Question 3: How much steroids do i need if any to keep my precious muscles?
Anabolic Member
Start at 25mcg p/day for a few days. Then increase slowly to see how you react.
Are you running it 6 weeks straight?
Junior Member
I was thinking about using it 6 weeks straight, what is recommended?Originally Posted by Diesel
I can go for 3 weeks to if thats better.
I would really like to know more about what steroids i should stack it with if any.
Retired Vet
Like Diesel said, start @ 25, or 50mcg per day.. and work your way up...
There is nothing wrong with running it for 6wks straight...
You can run many different types of gear with it to prevent muscle catabolism...
Test is the best in most people's opinions, however, many have used Anavar with good results... as long as your diet is in check...
Personally, I just came off 3.5wks of T3 last week, and will be starting 40mg/day of Var, and 50-75mcg/day of T3 for 7wks sometime soon...
Junior Member
What about stacking it with dbol, how much do i need do you think?
Should i split the dosage during the day or take everything in the morning? I read a medical profile which said it should be taken on empty stomach 30mins before breakfast?! is that how i should do it?
Junior Member
On it right now, at 100mcg.
I take a tab when I wake, and I take the other tabs one at a time, 3 or 4 hours apart. So far the heat hasn't been bad at all for the most part, though I do have hot flashes now and then through the day.
Last edited by alex117k; 04-06-2005 at 12:51 PM.
Junior Member
[Removed]
Last edited by justin984; 06-16-2011 at 10:16 PM.
Retired Vet
You want to take D-bol with no test? Not a great idea...
You can take it in the A.M. at once... empty stomach is fine...
Junior Member
Why is it bad?? I really have no idea but i know dbol is one of the best oral musclebuilders there is. Shouldnt it be great at keeping my muscles?
It must be better than anavar atleast?!
Retired Vet
Will cause you to bloat, and will shut you down without test...
This is where Anavar is better; good for cutting, shuts down your hpta less and you don't need test with it, and is much milder on your liver.
Junior Member
Ok how much anavar is recommended? Whats the minimum
Retired Vet
I'd say at least 40mg/day.
This would be a decent cycle of it:
Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8
Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12
Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11
Make sure to get lots of Milk Thistle, or Liv52 to protect your liver... although Var is mild, better be safe than sorry. Other anti-oxidants like ALA, etc are good too.
Make sure your diet and cardio is in check as well!
Junior Member
What about oral turinabol? Its stronger than anavar with no bloat, maybe 30mg/ot ED ?
Cheaper then anavar... and i have some from previous cycle..
What kind of diet do you recommend? I was thinking about cutting some on the carbs and up the protein a bit and totally i will eat about 500-700 kcals less than usual. Does that sound ok?
Retired Vet
If it were me, I'd stick with the var, or a low dose of test...
Check out the cutting sticky in the diet forum:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729
You're going to need at least 1.5g of protein per pound of bbodyweight as well...
To figure out your calorie requirements, you may use the following tool from the Bulking sticky:
Harris Benedict Formula for Calorie Calculations
“The Harris Benedict equation is a calorie formula using the variables of height, weight, age, and gender to calculate basal metabolic rate (BMR). This is more accurate than calculating calorie needs based on total body weight alone. The only factor it omits is lean body mass and thus the ratio of muscle-to-fat a body has. Remember, leaner bodies need more calories than less leaner ones. Therefore, this equation will be very accurate in all but the very muscular (Harris-Benedict will under-estimate calorie needs) and the very fat (Harris-Benedict will over-estimate calorie needs).”
That being said, there are is no concrete number of daily calorie intake your body needs, however using this formula will give you can idea of what you do need.
Harris Benedict Formula for Men
BMR = 66 + (13.7 X weight in kilos) + (5 X height in cm) - (6.8 X age in years)
Notes:
1 inch = 2.54 cm.
1 kilogram = 2.2 lbs.
Example of BMR
You are 25 years old
You are 6 feet tall
Your weight is 220 pounds
Your BMR is 66 + (1370) + (914) - (170) = 2180 calories
Harris Benedict Formula for Men - STEP 2
To determine your total daily calorie needs, now multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:
If you are Sedentary - little or no exercise
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.2
- If you are Lightly Active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.375
- If you are Moderately Active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.55
- If you are Very Active = BMR X 1.725 (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/week)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.725
- If you are Extra Active (very hard daily exercise/sports & physical job or 2X day training)
Calorie-Calculation = BMR X 1.9
Total Calorie Needs Example
If you are lightly active, multiply your BMR (2180) by 1.375 = 2997
Your total daily calorie requirement is therefore 2997 calories.
This is the total number of calories you need in order to MAINTAIN your current weight.
If you want to gain body weight, you must consume more calories than you burn. One pound of body weight is roughly equivalent to 3500 calories, so eating an extra 500 calories per day will cause you to gain one pound a week. Etc….
We have included an excel document created by Elliot @ AR that will calculate your calorie needs for you, using the Harris Benedict formula.
Elliot's Harris Benedict Calculator for Males:
http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/
Download the document named: harris-elliot.xls
Junior Member
I started at 1 tab, then added another tab every, 3-4 days until I got to 100mcg. I don't plan on going any higher. If you've gotten bad headaches off it, you may want to try again a few days later. Make sure you're hydrated, don't mix it with any other OTC medicines(allergy, cold/flu meds, etc...) and determine if it's the T3 that's causing your headaches. If it is you may have to look elsewhere.
D-bol Poppin'
Prop is good with t3, and less costly then var too
Retired Vet
Or you could just make your own... for MUCH less..
Junior Member
Just to be sure
This is how i plan my cycle
W1-6 50mg Anavar
W1: Ramp from 25-50 T3
W2-6:75mcg T3
W1-6 : LIV52
Should i ramp it back down or can i go from 75 to 0 over a night?
Do you think i should increase it to 100mcg T3 if i feel sides are not horrible?
And can i throw in 2 weeks of clen? like this : W5-6: 100mcg clen (with a ramp)
Last edited by mukkler; 04-09-2005 at 01:58 PM.
Retired Vet
Looks pretty nice to me! IMO, there is no need to ramp down from 75mcg. Doing so would only delay the time until your thyroid can begin to recover.
If you want to, there's nothing wrong with bumping it up to 100mcg, I'd personally stick to 75mcg... would depend on my RT....
I wouldn't use clen for 2wks, I'd use caffeine/green tea/etc... will help to keep your appetite under control as well.
Do you have clomid for PCT? 50mg/day for 3wks, starting the day after your last var dose.
Junior Member
How much will shut your thyroid down exactly, a friend is asking if he can run a low dose like 25mcg over six weeks he has been on diet for a month or so and hes not dropping so much weight any longer, might be that he cheats some, but i guess metabolism also slows down after some time of diet right?
Retired Vet
Your thyroid will be shut down from it.
He can do it, many people have ran it for 6wks+ straight at low dose with good results.
I would look towards his diet, and cardio before using T3 though.
Have him cheat in one meal per week. Is he on any thermo's?
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote