whos got the master plan

[phalanx]

ok im 19 and im gonna start a cycle
IM gonna as in dont try to convince me otherwise haha i know all about natural gains the the whole deal but i still wanna do my first cycle now
so i would like the advice from people about my first cycle and if ur gonna tell me not to just dont write anything thanks
anyhow i have researched and thought my first cycle would be like
500 test e 10 weeks
400 deca 10 weeks
30 dbol ed 4 weeks
with nolvadex and b6...............and then clomid for PCT

My question is i would like to hear other suggestions for cycles because i really dont want to wait the 4 or 5 weeks to see gains and i hear a lot of trash talk on deca
i want something that will gain as much weight as possible im only 165 pounds 5'11'' but for my size i look as big as any 180 190 guy i see around im just not that big haha i want as much weight as possible as fast as possible i can cut it all up easy afterwards thanks any help appreciated
KP

[slob]

TOO YOUNG
GET BIG NATURALLY

in your research you should have noted that you don't need them at your age. im 19, im in the same boat. sure there are times where i feel the same way. DO NOT DO IT NOW, waste of time,money and health.
everyone is going to tell you the same thing, that's because it's for your own good.
don't ignore people who know more about the subject than you do.

but.. if you really want to.... good luck

[Geeezer]

To young Bro.
go to the Gym and work out eat right for a few years you will grow

[Geeezer]

Also I cant beleave some one would sell to a kid.....
That just sucks!!!!!!

[Deezuhl]

the kid has a mind made up as do must of us with certain things.. whether they be good or bad for us.. why not help him with his question??

I think the cycle you setup is a good one personally and it seems you did do some research. You could have just went with test e with good results but if you want to run 3 compounds you set them up properly in my opinion.

[ChefJ]

the kid has a mind made up as do must of us with certain things.. whether they be good or bad for us.. why not help him with his question??

I think the cycle you setup is a good one personally and it seems you did do some research. You could have just went with test e with good results but if you want to run 3 compounds you set them up properly in my opinion.

Good to see someone looking out. I'm sure not everyone posting in this column waited until they were 21 or 23 before they started. I didn't and look at me now not to brag. If he has his mind made up, as he does, then help him. Like he said, IN HIS POST, don't reply if you are not going to help.

[BUYLONGTERM]

Good to see someone looking out. I'm sure not everyone posting in this column waited until they were 21 or 23 before they started. I didn't and look at me now not to brag. If he has his mind made up, as he does, then help him. Like he said, IN HIS POST, don't reply if you are not going to help.

Bro, how is he looking out for this guy? Don't reply if we aren't going to help? What telling him not to touch steroids at his age isn't helping him out??? Come on now...........

[ChefJ]

Bro, how is he looking out for this guy? Don't reply if we aren't going to help? What telling him not to touch steroids at his age isn't helping him out??? Come on now...........

His original post stated do not chime in if you don't have advice and that he is dead set on a cycle regardless of what we say. That said, I tried letting him know that his cycle looks decent. At 19 his plates have most likely fused and his growth will probably not be stunted. All of that is pointless considering he is going to use anyway. This thread is getting out of hand with people arguing and stating this and that. If we on the AR forum do not want people like this, under the age of 21, asking these types of questions then we should simply raise the age at which you are allowed to become a member.

[TDS]

if ur 165 bloke, ur diet must be shit house. basics for for beginners.

[phalanx]

see where it says shut the **** up if ur gonna tell me what i dont wanna hear. thanks to deezuhl for responding and i appreciate his input but the rest of u when i tell u exactly that i dont wanna hear that crap and dont even reply if ur gonna say that then dont reply get it
its not a hard concept

[SwoleCat]

see where it says shut the **** up if ur gonna tell me what i dont wanna hear. thanks to deezuhl for responding and i appreciate his input but the rest of u when i tell u exactly that i dont wanna hear that crap and dont even reply if ur gonna say that then dont reply get it
its not a hard concept

Tough shit, people are free to give their advice.

You are not here to set parameters.

I also think you are too young, and the bigger issue is that you are only a buck 65.........

Thank me later.

~SC~

[robkesl]

see where it says shut the **** up if ur gonna tell me what i dont wanna hear.

i dont see that anywhere, can you point it out to me?

[phalanx]

i swear some of u just type on each little post to see urself talk

[jaffry20]

shiiit, now i dont feel so bad doing my first cycle at 19 too. At least I was 190, 5'8

[SwoleCat]

i swear some of u just type on each little post to see urself talk

Just like you.

Clean up your attitude or your thread will be hosed. If you don't like the opinions of people, which I believe are VERY VALID ONES, simply ignore them.

Do not cuss, nor flame them, you just exemplify how YOUNG and IMMATURE you are when you do that.


~SC~

[phalanx]

ya so im the opposite of u i have a killer metabolism and i dont feel like waiting for it to slow down i can go crazy with food and do it right and put on weight so slowly and i do as much as i can but sometimes i cant afford it and i have the money to giver for this and try to get my weight then maintain it afterwards and im going for it any positive thoughts on answering we be appreciated

[ReX357]

ya so im the opposite of u i have a killer metabolism and i dont feel like waiting for it to slow down i can go crazy with food and do it right and put on weight so slowly and i do as much as i can but sometimes i cant afford it and i have the money to giver for this and try to get my weight then maintain it afterwards and im going for it any positive thoughts on answering we be appreciated

Health is the issue before getting big. Grasp that concept fast or you'll hurt yourself my friend.

[SwoleCat]

ya so im the opposite of u i have a killer metabolism and i dont feel like waiting for it to slow down i can go crazy with food and do it right and put on weight so slowly and i do as much as i can but sometimes i cant afford it and i have the money to giver for this and try to get my weight then maintain it afterwards and im going for it any positive thoughts on answering we be appreciated

If you can't hold on to weight now, what makes you think gear is going to help?

You have to be able to EAT AND GROW naturally before chemicals are in the mix.

All you will gain is water, and what good is that?

It's pointless.

After you lose your NEMO bloat, you'll deflate back to nothing and will have wasted your $$.

~SC~

[GridIronDevil]

ya so im the opposite of u i have a killer metabolism and i dont feel like waiting for it to slow down i can go crazy with food and do it right and put on weight so slowly and i do as much as i can but sometimes i cant afford it and i have the money to giver for this and try to get my weight then maintain it afterwards and im going for it any positive thoughts on answering we be appreciated

hrmmm im not really sure as to what you were tryin to say in this post, befor a cycle id recomend hooked on phonix, but besides that age and weight set aside the cycle is set up well, and you wont have to worry about waiting to see gains thats what the whole purpose of the d-bol for the first 4 eeks is itsa "jumpstart" but personally i think you need get to like 185 atleast befor you cycle, you really do need to gain some natural base first.
-Grid

[phalanx]

just like u haha thats why i have 114 posts and not like 14000 ya u may have been around a long time and i know u know ur shit
but i dont just type in others ****ing posts just to talk if i have something to say then yes if not and if they specifically ask u not to say that then u should respect the person and what they ask u wouldnt want any different in ur posts
when i first joined i would just type bump or some shit so i had more replies now i just dont care and if u dont have anyhtin to say dont say anything at all
i may be 19 but at least i act more mature than some of u

[SwoleCat]

just like u haha thats why i have 114 posts and not like 14000 ya u may have been around a long time and i know u know ur shit
but i dont just type in others ****ing posts just to talk if i have something to say then yes if not and if they specifically ask u not to say that then u should respect the person and what they ask u wouldnt want any different in ur posts
when i first joined i would just type bump or some shit so i had more replies now i just dont care and if u dont have anyhtin to say dont say anything at all
i may be 19 but at least i act more mature than some of u

Learn to use periods and punctuation.

Maybe then people will read your offerings.

You sound like you're on 50000 mgs. of clen.

~SC~

[desperado7]

Learn to use periods and punctuation.

Maybe then people will read your offerings.

You sound like you're on 50000 mgs. of clen.

~SC~

why dont u just shut the hell up and mind your own ****ing business

[Tazwell]

why dont u just shut the hell up and mind your own ****ing business

you have no room to correct mods bro ( especially that one).. little shit tards like you give this forum a bad name.. don't post any more you'll just be treated like a joke.

[SwoleCat]

why dont u just shut the hell up and mind your own ****ing business

Why don't you sit in the corner on a suspension and play w/yourself?



There is no warning for outright disrespect of moderators.

Learn about it kid.

~SC~

[RA]

why dont u just shut the hell up and mind your own ****ing business

Same dude, thought ross was god.

[SwoleCat]

Same dude, thought ross was god.

Well, he can pray to his God in silence now.

~SC~

[phalanx]

well u see SW i wanna gain it and then try and hold it and i guess if i fail then i fail but im gonna give it a try some say dont some say go for it i have made up my mind and decided on what im going to do any advice on what im actually asking would be nice

[phalanx]

I CARE sw

[SwoleCat]

If you've made up your mind, then we're done here.

Looks like you have your master plan.



~SC~

[chris2wire]

If you have your mind made up just do it.

I started juice at 150lbs. Did I gain on my cycle? You bet. Did I keep it? Yes again. So wahts the catch? I could have EASILY made the gains I made just being natural, because I had so much growing left to do. I could have saved money and just worked out for a year or so more naturally. The gains were the same.

If you have your mind made up why are you here arguing?? Its not like we're there to stop you physically. All you have to do it logoff and go shoot your juice. We're just giving advice, if you refuse to listen then dont argue just go away.

[phalanx]

that pic was of me at 17 i dont have any new ones cause i dont own a camera i have a base not that heavy but i do

[GridIronDevil]

lmao ^ funny shit by the way your the man SC ur ****in huge man

[SwoleCat]

lmao ^ funny shit by the way your the man SC ur ****in huge man

I'm hoping to get REALLY huge in a while here.

Waiting on my woman to bring home some BBQ'ed carne asada, rice, beans, and a grilled stuffed burrito and Nachos Bellgrande from Taco Bell.

Thanks bro,

~SC~

[phalanx]

MY question was i want advice on other cycle i could take and i would like to hear other cycles thats why im argueing when i havent gotten any other cycle posted

[Geeezer]

MY question was i want advice on other cycle i could take and i would like to hear other cycles thats why im argueing when i havent gotten any other cycle posted

I gave you advice for you cycle you to young and to small ...
Geees ..
You dont belong on a fourm like this,Let alone do AS
Dont ASK if you dont listen
Geeez.

[phalanx]

u suck his cock to gridirondevil

[SwoleCat]

u suck his cock to gridirondevil

One more flame from you and I am going to suspend you for a good while so you can watch cartoons.

Why do you continually show your lack of maturity?

This is your ONLY warning.

Do w/that what you wish, I don't give a shit. However, you will not flame other members for giving out props.

~SC~

[nomore1324]

kid seriously shut your mouth is my advice. you dont know anyhting about anything thats obvious you htink a good way to get in with guys on these forums is to talk like that to a moderator who has taught most on here everything they know. take a looat his pic, you are 165 probably loose as helll, he is 265 with abs, yes thats 100 pounds more, is you hadnt come off as such a smart A$$ everyione would have happily helped you. maturity is taking criticism, done talk to mods that way if you want anyones help, rememver you asked for help by posting. SWOLE i think you should crush this thread.

[phalanx]

buddy im 19 no shit he is bigger i ddint deny he is huge i asked for advice and said exactly what i dont want critisim but u just cant get that through ur skull can u
talk about maturity all i aksed was for some nice answers and anyone who replies properly i have said thanks and appreciated but when u come just to flame on the young guy just get out

[GridIronDevil]

im with nomore best advice yet^_^...wow i didnt realize the comment you made twoards me sorry for this swole but kid youra ****head you needa grow up and come back with osme hair on those barley dropped nutz of yours and learn some respect...peace
-Grid