week 1-16 Test E or Cyp. 750 mg/week
week 1-14 Eq 500 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
week 15-20 Winstrol 75 mg/day
week 17-19 Clen 140 mcg/day
PCT of: HCG, Clomid, and Clen
Nolvadex or Arimidex, depends on how much $ i'll be left with.
week 1-16 Test E or Cyp. 750 mg/week
week 1-14 Eq 500 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
week 15-20 Winstrol 75 mg/day
week 17-19 Clen 140 mcg/day
PCT of: HCG, Clomid, and Clen
Nolvadex or Arimidex, depends on how much $ i'll be left with.
Everythings looks good. That will be similar to my next cycle, but running deca instead of EQ and var instead of winny. Good luck and keep me updated. BTW I like your old avatar better![]()
Yes, it is too much, buddy. You will need to send me the winnie and the dbols.
JK bro. You're going to grow like a weed![]()
Awesome Cycle!
Yea this is a kick ass cycle. It's making me wet right now.Originally Posted by Keyser Sozey
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thanx bro, u mean the Avatar of me posing?Originally Posted by smak dat puzz
Yea LOL. You kind of look like Lou Ferrigno. I didn't realize it was you.Originally Posted by smokethedays
are u trying to cut or bulk???
If you go with cyp you can end the EQ and cyp the same week. Also if you have the cash I would run the EQ eith at the same dose as the test or at least 600mg.
I don't know about the winny. It could be a waste if your bf isn't low. Also, you need to run the winny weeks 14 - 19 if using Cyp or 13 - 18 if using Enan. Also, if this is your first time with Winny use 50mg ED
Do not use HCG durring PCT. It will hinder recovery because it mimics LH. Either use it durring the cycle at 500iu 2x per week or weeks 16 and 17 500iu 2x per week
lots of ppl think so too.Originally Posted by smak dat puzz
This is what you call a bulk/cut cycle.Originally Posted by BlInDsIdE
this is very similar to winter cycle coming up except my test and eq will be a little higher and dbol will be substituted for anadrol at 100mg ed. clen is a little high for me. i'm going to stick around 80-100mcg with some t3. i like this cycle though. maybe bump the eq up a bit.Originally Posted by smokethedays
i've done winny up to 80 mg/day.Originally Posted by TheMudMan
i usually end my cycle with Clen and Winny alone, and lose about 3-4% BF on that alone and keep most of my gains.
Eq bloats the hell out of me anywhere pass 500 mg/week
i think 4 monthes is too long period ya man
An oxymoronic cycle, if you will.Originally Posted by smak dat puzz
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Didn't you just come off, or are still on, a long cyce. The cycle sounds great but i would take some timeoff.Originally Posted by smokethedays
i've done 8 months beforeOriginally Posted by hosam4ever
i'm off now (1 week only) going back in feb.Originally Posted by 305GUY
Do you recall your stats before and after this cycle?Originally Posted by smokethedays
Also, if you wouldn't mind giving me a gist of it's components.
Thx Smoke
go with prop then d-bol, better gains.
week 1-14 Test Cyp 500mg/week
week 1-12 Deca 400 mg/week
week 1-5 D-bol 40 mg/day
2 weeks after last Test shot PCT and HCG and Clen. for 4 weeks, nothing for 2 weeks
then back on:
week 1-16 Test E 750-800 mg/week
week 1-14 Deca 600 mg/week
week 1-4 D-bol 30 mg/day
week 15-19 Winny 80 mg/day
week 16-19 Clen 120 mcg/day
total gains 35-40 lbs
lean gains after bringing BF from 13% to 8-9 % is about 18-20 lbs
i started with 185 lbs up to 228 lbs at the end and down with Winny and Clen to 207 lbs
Sweet. Nice Avatar!Originally Posted by smokethedays
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just for u my luvOriginally Posted by smak dat puzz
j/k
Originally Posted by smokethedays
You still need to adjust the winny so that your start PCT when the test has has left your system.
Originally Posted by smokethedays
Oh the love on AR...![]()
By the way awesome cycle![]()
the thing is i like runnig winny with Clen for a bout 3 weeks alone, after the Test is off, it does really good job.Originally Posted by TheMudMan
i tried it my self, it preserves most of the size and cut some fat off.
thanx bro.Originally Posted by WILDCH1LD
that's wt i did in my last cycle and it worked very well.Originally Posted by TheMudMan
check my before and after pics and let me know wt do u think
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=188635
It's not the winny it's the clen doing this. Also because you are ending the longer estered compounds you are seeing some of the bloat go away. If it works for you then do it but I was just giving you my 2 cents.
Wow, you kept 20+lbs and you dropped roughly 5%in bf. That's some serious growing bro.Originally Posted by smokethedays
Sheeit, I may try one of them 8 monthers.
thanx much bro, appreciate it. i'll look into ur advice. might give it a shot.Originally Posted by TheMudMan
if bad i'm get ur azz. J/k bro. thanx again
Look good bro........... Like I said I'm just giving you my 2 cents from my experiences.Originally Posted by smokethedays
keep blood work in check.Originally Posted by Keyser Sozey
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Sounds like a heavy and expensive cycle and probably too long, but heh it does look nice.
On cycle I get blood work done every 4 weeks, and 4 weeks after i'm done.Originally Posted by smokethedays
not expensive when the 1ml Test cost .50 centsOriginally Posted by powerliftmike
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Did you use HCG before PCT after the 2nd cycle? How long did you run PCT? I'm curious because I've toyed with the idea of long cycles, and was wondering how easy it was to recover. Pics look kick ass bro.Originally Posted by smokethedays
there is alot of debate on HCG usage, i always run it with clomid during PCT or alone if i'm bridging.
any new opinions?!!
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