bloat

**smiler** · 10-31-2005, 07:17 PM

dude is on 1200mg test cyp ew and 800mg deca. serious face bloat. takes .5mg arimidex ed. should something be added to combat the facecial bloat?

**smokethedays** · 10-31-2005, 07:20 PM

1200 mg Test/week??!?!!?!
shove him in the dryer for couple hours. j/k
not sure man but that hell of high doses. maybe some Nolvadex would help.

**C_Bino** · 10-31-2005, 07:20 PM

LOL. That is a lot of gear, please post a pic man, I wanna see how bad this is. Is nolva being run? Try natural diuretics if you want like asparagus, coffee and keep salt low.

-Bino

**TCEL300** · 10-31-2005, 07:22 PM

nolva should be run

**smiler** · 10-31-2005, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

LOL. That is a lot of gear, please post a pic man, I wanna see how bad this is. Is nolva being run? Try natural diuretics if you want like asparagus, coffee and keep salt low.

-Bino

ok I will post a pic of his face.....um HELLO???

**thejuiceisloose** · 10-31-2005, 07:26 PM

I agree that is a lot of gear. Is he also running some vit B6 100mg/ED. Nolva wont do anything to counteract the prolactin that deca may cause.

**smiler** · 10-31-2005, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

1200 mg Test/week??!?!!?!
shove him in the dryer for couple hours. j/k
not sure man but that hell of high doses. maybe some Nolvadex would help.

are you kidding me? I know several dudes on 2 gs ew. 1200 & 800 are not what I would call "hell of high doses" anyone else think this is too high?

**thejuiceisloose** · 10-31-2005, 07:30 PM

umm what is the reasoning behind running that high of dosage?

**smokethedays** · 10-31-2005, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

are you kidding me? I know several dudes on 2 gs ew. 1200 & 800 are not what I would call "hell of high doses" anyone else think this is too high?

sorry bro, but not everybody on here is J. Cutler or R. Coleman, i'm just alittle guy can barely afford (physically 800 mg/week)

**smiler** · 10-31-2005, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

sorry bro, but not everybody on here is J. Cutler or R. Coleman, i'm just alittle guy can barely afford (physically 800 mg/week)

yea, I'm sure Ronnie and Jay take similar doses.lol

**smokethedays** · 10-31-2005, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

yea, I'm sure Ronnie and Jay take similar doses.lol

man, let it pass, i'm assuming so to make my self feel better

(kinda of i'm almost there thing, you know)

**smiler** · 10-31-2005, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

man, let it pass, i'm assuming so to make my self feel better

(kinda of i'm almost there thing, you know)

no worries bro, but c'mon 1200 test and 800 deca really isn't much imo. could easily double that

**smiler** · 10-31-2005, 07:49 PM

ok so besides your opinions on the dose, what should be incorporated? b6...is that injectable?

**smiler** · 10-31-2005, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose

umm what is the reasoning behind running that high of dosage?

what is the deal here. I've been reading this forum for quite some time. just over 1 gram of test ew is not that much. where is everyone who takes much more than this? don't be afraid...fess up. oh yea whats the reason you ask? umm, size

**thejuiceisloose** · 11-01-2005, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by smiler

what is the deal here. I've been reading this forum for quite some time. just over 1 gram of test ew is not that much. where is everyone who takes much more than this? don't be afraid...fess up. oh yea whats the reason you ask? umm, size

If that's what you think, b/c of the amount of AS you take you get bigger in size, I suggest you research more. Shows lack of knowledge on your part, especially previously asking what is B6?It's a vitamin BTW.

There are bros on here(including myself) that get bigger and bigger running for example 500-600mg of test AND have done @ least 5 cycles. So again what would be the reasoning behind going that high in dosage, unless your friend is as big as Ronnie Coleman, if so he should be competing against him.

**MatrixGuy** · 11-01-2005, 03:39 PM

Tell him to get some letro. That'll sort him out on the bloating front.

**smiler** · 11-02-2005, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose

If that's what you think, b/c of the amount of AS you take you get bigger in size, I suggest you research more. Shows lack of knowledge on your part, especially previously asking what is B6?It's a vitamin BTW.

There are bros on here(including myself) that get bigger and bigger running for example 500-600mg of test AND have done @ least 5 cycles. So again what would be the reasoning behind going that high in dosage, unless your friend is as big as Ronnie Coleman, if so he should be competing against him.

easy big guy. I didn't ask what b6 is...I asked if it's injectable. I know it's a vit. smart ass, just at that dose seems alot for the pill form. I am real proud of you with your growth on 600mg test. good for you. btw not everyone who is big wants to compete, at least not at bb.

**Testostack** · 11-02-2005, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

man, let it pass, i'm assuming so to make my self feel better

(kinda of i'm almost there thing, you know)

WTF???!!, That's one of hell dosage!! i hope for your buddy that he got Nolva/L-dex on hand!!

**Warrior** · 11-02-2005, 12:10 PM

Diet plays a big role here. When I have done over a gram of test before I get really sensitive to sugars and alcohol... either gets my face and hands bloated. If I see it in my hands I will pop a Lasix and start pounding water.

From personal experience, avoid excess sugars and alcohol, drink lots of water... and I would start some Nolvadex (or Arimidex) with that for sure... that kind of aromatization can lead to bloat and aggression (yes, estrogen can cause aggression)...

**smiler** · 11-02-2005, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by MatrixGuy

Tell him to get some letro. That'll sort him out on the bloating front.

should dude take letro with the .5 mg a-dex already on

**Testostack** · 11-02-2005, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

should dude take letro with the .5 mg a-dex already on

What the diff between L-dex and letro??

**BigPimpin76** · 11-02-2005, 02:26 PM

Bro , If you can get your hands on Proviron it would be great. Keeps you pretty dry.
Good luck.

**smiler** · 11-03-2005, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by BigPimpin76

Bro , If you can get your hands on Proviron it would be great. Keeps you pretty dry.
Good luck.

ok read up on it a bit. shouldn't be any prob. getting but I'd like to hear some experiences with it.

**shortie** · 11-03-2005, 10:51 AM

He should not need to run ldex and letro at once, tell him to up his ldex to 1mg ed and run te b-6 at 100mg ed for progesterone sides. The ldex will most likely take care of the bloat, his dose of .5 mg would be effective IMO for a cycle of 750 mg or less.

**smiler** · 11-03-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by shortie

He should not need to run ldex and letro at once, tell him to up his ldex to 1mg ed and run te b-6 at 100mg ed for progesterone sides. The ldex will most likely take care of the bloat, his dose of .5 mg would be effective IMO for a cycle of 750 mg or less.

it's actually a-dex (arimidex) he's on

**shortie** · 11-03-2005, 10:58 AM

A-dex, l-dex, both are anastrozole, just in different forms-liquid vs pill.

**smiler** · 11-03-2005, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by shortie

A-dex, l-dex, both are anastrozole, just in different forms-liquid vs pill.

ok, so could letro be added to help combat the bloating?

**shortie** · 11-03-2005, 05:43 PM

I personally wouldn't run two AI's at once, esp not two that are as strong as l-dex and letro. IMO he has l-dex, just needs to take more of it. Nolva won't help with the bloat, and if he is feeling no gyno symptoms he shouldn't run the nolva as it will interfere with the action of the l-dex.

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