whats your opinon on this
WORTH A TRY
FORGET IT
whats your opinon on this
Vitrix has a 80% saponins content and 20% protodioscin content. The key is having a 20% protodioscin content. Most members but Optimum Nutrition's tribulus because of the price. It contains only a 40% saponins content. You would have to take twice the amount of Optimum's Trib to get the same effect. After doubling the pills, the price is actually more than Vitrix.
I used 8g of Optimum Nutrition's tribulus for a PCT and it made my skin very oily. I used 8g because it is half as potent as Vitrix or Tribex. 4g for PCT is considered the normal for PCT.
In my case I must say that no trib product at all has worked for me...even other products such as Fenotest. Not sure what it is about these products that do jack for me.
Tongkat ali is supposed to be superior to tribulus. I have been taking Redkat from Biotest and have noticed increased libidio and larger loads (for lack of proper spellingOriginally Posted by sputnik
). If you take Optimum's Nutrition Tribulus at 8g ED, I think you would notice a libido difference. Both are supposed to help with minor testicular atrophy as well.
Yeah I had thought of trying Tongkat...have also tried Maca caps and nothing...to tell u the truth I'm not gonna spend my money on any more trib products again unless I get sent a sample and it works. Have already spent money for nothing.Originally Posted by Papi93
Trueprotein all the way... 100gs for $20 shipped to ur door.. i can make like 150 caps with that and its basicly just as powerful as vitrix
Do you know what the saponin or protodioscin content is?Originally Posted by ToTheBuckeT21
Originally Posted by Papi93
i get mine from trueprotien aswell , i emailed the guy once and he told me it varies from 15-20% protodioscin content .
Thanks zOaib. 15-20% protodioscin content is excellent. How hard is it to cap? I have read that it is virtually impossible to choke the powder down.Originally Posted by zOaib
i have two bottles, i bought from vitamin world, i was going to order them online but vitamin world had a sale so whatever i bought it for PCT along with aveena sativa, and tongat ali..i thought trib was trib i didnt even look at the saponin% or the protodioscin damn
yeah bro protodioscin is what works for increase in test levels !Originally Posted by Bigpup101
Originally Posted by zOaib
bro, i just checked my bottle..it says NOTHING about protodioscin..should i return it?!? bastards...it says 40% saponins and nothing about protodioscin
i love trib but only take it prewokout...a whole gram of it and i certainly notice an increase in strength.
never did anything for me.
The ONLY study ive ever seen shows that protodioscin is the active
it converts into DHEA at a minimal rate and DHEA raises your test levels
why not cut out the middle man and just go with DHEA???
Trib never did anything for me either
explain this protodioscin and saponins ..what are they what do they do???
For me it is nothing but bottled up GYNO oh yeah it does help w/ libido but no strength no muscle. Not worth it IMO.
At work dose did you experience gyno (4g, etc)?Originally Posted by Disciple
it gives u gyno?
it is apart of every pct i have ever done
y would it be bottled up gyno?
I like taken x2 tribulus caps an hour pre training and i do notice a mood influx and strength increase!!!
IMO a post cycle must as long as you spring for a quality brand and not cheap shiat...
Long time, no see Buff. What dose do you recommend for PCT (4g)? Or do you just run with Tribestan's recommended dose?Originally Posted by buff87
Hey brotha...
I usually run HCG @ 500iu's E3D for 3 weeks and about a week into that
start running a good quality Trib at 3 grams ED for a few weeks
before dropping it down to 1,500 - 2,000mg for another 4 weeks or so...
For me it works great.. I also run Nolva during PCT at 10mg ED during the
whole time just to help keep any excess estrogen from binding with recepors...
Not a fan of Clomid, never have been... Don't really use it...
Originally Posted by Papi93
Last edited by Jack87; 01-23-2006 at 03:48 PM.
explain this protodioscin and saponins ..what are they what do they do???
Check out this article.Originally Posted by BIGPHIL
http://www.nutriline.org/tribulus_terrestris.htm
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