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    cytomel and ephedrine

    i am experienced (reasonably) with AAS aswell as clen and eph but have recently been researching the thyroid hormones for my next cycle

    i'm thinking of using Cytomel (which i believe is T3????? i always get T3 and T4 mixed up)

    i hear that it is fine to run along side Clen but i can find no mention of combining it with ephedrine??

    is it safe to do this?

    i will be running test prop @100mg ED alongside the fat burners

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    i alternate the clen and ephedrine while on t3...2weeks clen 2 weeks eph etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred9
    i alternate the clen and ephedrine while on t3...2weeks clen 2 weeks eph etc..

    thats what i was planning too

    just wanted to make sure my heart wasnt gonna explode in the process

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    thats what i was planning too

    just wanted to make sure my heart wasnt gonna explode in the process
    'tis what I'm just embarking on too, lemme know if your heart pops & I'll stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    'tis what I'm just embarking on too, lemme know if your heart pops & I'll stop!

    ok i'll try and email you from anabolic heaven

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    ok i'll try and email you from anabolic heaven
    Thanks G, I would appreciate it!

    I heard their broadband is rapid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred9
    i alternate the clen and ephedrine while on t3...2weeks clen 2 weeks eph etc..
    Sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAdonis
    Sounds good.
    I think you kind of missed the point of this thread

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    Yes, Cytomel is T3.

    You can combine them, yes, just don't use a ridiculous dosage.

    I wouldn't alternate them like that either, by the way. T3 with the clen/albuterol/etc. would help to keep your beta-2's from downregulating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown_SC
    Yes, Cytomel is T3.

    You can combine them, yes, just don't use a ridiculous dosage.

    I wouldn't alternate them like that either, by the way. T3 with the clen/albuterol/etc. would help to keep your beta-2's from downregulating.

    are you saying not alternate clen with eph while on T3?

    if so how come?

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    I wouldn't advise taking clen and ephedrine together... just my opinion though. I would run the clen and T3 constantly and leave out the ephedrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    I wouldn't advise taking clen and ephedrine together... just my opinion though. I would run the clen and T3 constantly and leave out the ephedrine.

    Matirx you donut

    not at the same time - i meant alternately

    doh

    Blown SC - i'm not sure i can get hold of that stuff u recommended
    to keep the beta 2 receptors active

    so i'm thinking in this case perhaps the ephedrine would come in handy?

    maybe 3 weeks clen - 1 week ECA

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    Blown SC - i'm not sure i can get hold of that stuff u recommended
    to keep the beta 2 receptors active

    so i'm thinking in this case perhaps the ephedrine would come in handy?

    maybe 3 weeks clen - 1 week ECA
    No, I'm talking about T3. T3 helps to keep them from downregulating.

    Also, IMO, I feel if you used Albuterol vs. Clen, they wouldn't downregulate as much either....

    Ephedrine would downregulate them as well... just not as severely IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    Matirx you donut

    not at the same time - i meant alternately

    doh

    Blown SC - i'm not sure i can get hold of that stuff u recommended
    to keep the beta 2 receptors active

    so i'm thinking in this case perhaps the ephedrine would come in handy?

    maybe 3 weeks clen - 1 week ECA
    Sorry bro, mis-read. Not been feeling myself lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    are you saying not alternate clen with eph while on T3?

    if so how come?
    Yes, I am. I would just use the clen. and t3 together, they work very well together.

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    Yes, I am saying that you can substitute albuterol for clen, and you will likely have less beta-2 downregulation. I've never used clen, but I really like albuterol.

    And yes, I'm saying to forget the ephedrine altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown_SC

    And yes, I'm saying to forget the ephedrine altogether.

    oh ok
    why's that then?

    is that ephedrine in general or just when on T3

    i love my ECA - only thing that stops me fallin asleep at work

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    oh ok
    why's that then?

    is that ephedrine in general or just when on T3

    i love my ECA - only thing that stops me fallin asleep at work
    I don't feel you need it, I would just use Clen (I would prefer Albuterol personally, but it's your choice) and T3.... use it for 6wks straight, then take a break.. and yes, it's a good idea to run some Benadryl/Ketotifen as well.

    Helios (which contains Albuterol) and T3 will be the only things I use in regards to Thermo's/Fat 'burners' in the future.... works phenomenally well.

    Just sharing some opinions with you bro, it's your body, do with it what you wish... Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown_SC
    I don't feel you need it, I would just use Clen (I would prefer Albuterol personally, but it's your choice) and T3.... use it for 6wks straight, then take a break.. and yes, it's a good idea to run some Benadryl/Ketotifen as well.

    Helios (which contains Albuterol) and T3 will be the only things I use in regards to Thermo's/Fat 'burners' in the future.... works phenomenally well.

    Just sharing some opinions with you bro, it's your body, do with it what you wish... Good luck.

    ok thanks for the advice - my problem is i dont think i can get hol of benadryl here in the uk- i'm not sure i will have a look for it, but i have never heard of it before

    unless MATRIX has heard of it??

    if i cant get hold of it i wouldnt be keen on runnnig clen (i cant get albuterol) past 2 weeks due to downgrading beta 2 receptors - hence the ephedrine

    thanks for the advise though - i will look into albuterol and benadryl

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    ok thanks for the advice - my problem is i dont think i can get hol of benadryl here in the uk- i'm not sure i will have a look for it, but i have never heard of it before

    unless MATRIX has heard of it??

    if i cant get hold of it i wouldnt be keen on runnnig clen (i cant get albuterol) past 2 weeks due to downgrading beta 2 receptors - hence the ephedrine

    thanks for the advise though - i will look into albuterol and benadryl

    cheers
    You're forgetting that ephedrine will also down-regulate them.

    What I'm getting at, is that you could use Albuterol and T3, without having to use Benadryl/Ketotifen, because Albuterol doesn't down-regulate your beta-2's to the same extent, and t3 helps to upregulate them... make sense now?

    Also, Bena.lin is ****'d out, because of the word A L I N (in reference to A L I N the source).

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    ok thanks for the advice - my problem is i dont think i can get hol of benadryl here in the uk- i'm not sure i will have a look for it, but i have never heard of it before

    unless MATRIX has heard of it??

    if i cant get hold of it i wouldnt be keen on runnnig clen (i cant get albuterol) past 2 weeks due to downgrading beta 2 receptors - hence the ephedrine

    thanks for the advise though - i will look into albuterol and benadryl

    cheers
    I have been trying to get hold of it too.

    I know its present in some of the "cough mixtures" like benylin

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    I could be wrong but isn't benadryl cough medicine of some sort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    I could be wrong but isn't benadryl cough medicine of some sort?

    thats what i thought initially

    your thinking of ben****

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    thats what i thought initially

    your thinking of ben****

    WTF - why has it stared out that word - its a name of a cough syrup not a swear word

    Ben@lin

    subtitute the '@' for an 'A'

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    Question:
    am currently using Winny, taking 1cc every other day, but recently I have noticed that my arm that I am using is extremely sore for about 24 hours. Usually very hot to the touch and tender. Any advice??

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlj
    Question:
    am currently using Winny, taking 1cc every other day, but recently I have noticed that my arm that I am using is extremely sore for about 24 hours. Usually very hot to the touch and tender. Any advice??

    its common practice to start a new thread with a question like that,since it doesn’t relate to this thread

    but anyway, post injection pain is very common, but I find within a couple of weeks the pain lessens and eventually stops altogther

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    G-Force,
    Thanks for the advice on Winny, sorry I was not sure when & where to ask, but I do appreciate you taking the time to help me out. I will continue using 10cc every other day and hopefully the pain will go away.
    RLJ

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    benadryl is an anti-histaminefor you guys in the uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverenuff21
    benadryl is an anti-histaminefor you guys in the uk
    This might be worth checking out. I know tha in the US 'Benadryl' is an antihistamine due to it containing diphenhydramine, but here in Australia, it is a cough suppressant because it contains dextromethorphan.

    Actually its really strange, our Benadrul doesnt have the diphenhydramine due to it causing delirium in higher doses, instead they give us a preparation that is a psychedelic dissociative in higher doses.

    Its possible to find Benadryl with diphenhydramine here, but it also contains ammonium chloride, which is capable of suppressing the respiratory system in the doses required

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    confused...Albuterol...benadryl?

    I'm in the US so my benadryl contains diphenhydramine. If you are going to use this what dosage do you use? Also I currently take the Albuterol inhaler for asthma, is this the same Albuterol that you are talking about and if so at what dosage do you think I should take with the T3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmanMC
    I'm in the US so my benadryl contains diphenhydramine. If you are going to use this what dosage do you use? Also I currently take the Albuterol inhaler for asthma, is this the same Albuterol that you are talking about and if so at what dosage do you think I should take with the T3?

    Bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmanMC
    I'm in the US so my benadryl contains diphenhydramine. If you are going to use this what dosage do you use? Also I currently take the Albuterol inhaler for asthma, is this the same Albuterol that you are talking about and if so at what dosage do you think I should take with the T3?
    100mg of diphenhydramine

    you will find that you need alot from your inhaler before you get the required results. Just stick with clen

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    i just got some benadryl from boots
    so u can prob get it from any chemist, i was suprised cos
    i thought it would be prescription only

    you can even get them cheaply on Ebay

    i have no idea how many to take though cos they dont state how many mg's
    in each tablet? can anyone help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    i just got some benadryl from boots
    so u can prob get it from any chemist, i was suprised cos
    i thought it would be prescription only

    you can even get them cheaply on Ebay

    i have no idea how many to take though cos they dont state how many mg's
    in each tablet? can anyone help?
    Thats strange. I looked for them in Boots and when i looked at the ingredients it never stated that they contained diphenhydramine.

    Which ones were they bro, one a day ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixGuy
    Thats strange. I looked for them in Boots and when i looked at the ingredients it never stated that they contained diphenhydramine.

    Which ones were they bro, one a day ones?

    i'm not sure if the ones i bought are effective
    on the back it states 8mg of Acrivastine per tab

    i'm not sure if these will work

    ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    i'm not sure if the ones i bought are effective
    on the back it states 8mg of Acrivastine per tab

    i'm not sure if these will work

    ????
    Am not 100% sure bro. I hope it is!

    Bump for help.

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    bump

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    if you cant get benadryl in the uk i am sure one of us here could send you a bottle, the stuff is 4 dollars for 100caps at 100 mgs in most dosages. and benadryl itself in its normal form is just an antihistamine, but there are many different drug combinations such as cold/flu, sinus, etc that have different ingredients. it is normally taken at night cuz it can make you drowsy. i believe the recommended dosage is 100-200mgs for a week every 3rd week, or 100mgs throughout

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    also, in my experience taking the benadryl with ephedrine(so i am sure it is the same with clen) helps to lessen my resistance to it in terms of energy levels tapering off.

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    cool beans, thanks!

    BTW I posted another forum for the Abuterol ? and every one has told me that the halflife is too short and I'd be taking "puffs" every damn 10-20 min. and there is only like 200 inhalations in a canister...that's alot of $ plus I think my pharmacy would get suspisious if I was getting a refill every damn week.

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