Test- e or test-c

[kolbety]

Test-e or test-c for first cycle?
500mg split twice a week?

[*Narkissos*]

Test-e or test-c for first cycle?

Which is available to you? That's the defining factor

500mg split twice a week?

500 mg split over two shots.. yes

[kolbety]

neither yet...

[sp9]

When you divide the price per mg, if they are both quality manufactures, just pick the one with the cheapest price per mg. They are both equally good.

[kolbety]

cool. next question. can I mix test-c with test propionate for the first 4 wks? can I draw them in the same pin? and can do I do test-p ed? 100mg

[*Narkissos*]

When you divide the price per mg, if they are both quality manufactures, just pick the one with the cheapest price per mg. They are both equally good.

forgot to add that.. price/availability.. those are the determining factors

[*Narkissos*]

cool. next question. can I mix test-c with test propionate for the first 4 wks?

To kick-start the cycle.. yes

can I draw them in the same pin?

In the same syringe you mean? Yes
Can you use the same pin to draw from the two vials.. yes
Change pin before injecting tho.

and can do I do test-p ed? 100mg

Yes you can run Test-prop everyday... 100 mg? Isn't this your first cycle?
That's high imo

[sp9]

Why not do 75mg ED? Or even just 50mg ED. Just a suggestion. That way you will be right around 350 or 500 a week of prop. With 75mg ED you will start to go over 500 a week as the test e or c starts to release. If you do 100mg a day prop, that's 700 a week, then when you get to week 3 and 4 and some of the teste or testc is starting to accumulate and get released from those injection sites you will go up over 700mg.

Will be overkill for a 1st cycle at 700 + as stated above.

[kolbety]

Great info gys thanks...so a good start would be.
wks 1-10
500mg test-c 250mg every 3.5 days
50-75mg test-p ED weeks 1-4
nolvadex 10mg ed wks1-10, 20mg ED wks 11-15
pct
how does this look?

[sp9]

Looks good. Start PCT at the right time. I have not used test c in a while but you wait a few days longer befor starting PCT then teste.

Pick 50 or 75 of prop and stick with it the entire time 1-4.

Also, consider getting your diet and workouts down for a few months. I understand your interest in seeing all the benefits of test in your 40's but you will get the most out of it if you get your diet and workouts solid before you start. You should also consider getting blood work done before and after. You can even order it online at a place like www.healthcheckusa.com. They will send you papers that you take in to a lab, local to you to get the work done. My local lab is the city hospital's lab, so it is no different then when your doctor orders you to go to a lab. This way though you are safe and it's out of your doctor's records.

[sp9]

Look at novice cycle 2-3 for timing and PCT info (it includes deca, just ignore that).

http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle2.php

[kolbety]

thanks sp9

[kolbety]

does anyone know the differance between cypioject and testabol depot? both test-c just differnt mfg?

[kolbety]

how many vials of test-c 10ml 200mg/ml will I need for this cycle. same ting with test-p how much will I need 10ml 100mg/ml
how do I convert my dose to cc? and what syirnge should I be using. way to many questions I know...thanks for the help

[sp9]

how many vials of test-c 10ml 200mg/ml will I need for this cycle. same ting with test-p how much will I need 10ml 100mg/ml
how do I convert my dose to cc? and what syirnge should I be using. way to many questions I know...thanks for the help

Just multiply the number of weeks by the mg per week to get the total you need in mg. Then if it is 10ml at 200mg per ml you have 2000mg in one bottle, just divide. Always make sure there is some extra. Some is lost in the needle, sometimes bottles are slightly underfilled, etc. I would recommend getting 1 extra bottle just in case.

[sp9]

how do I convert my dose to cc? and what syirnge should I be using. way to many questions I know...thanks for the help

1 ml = 1 cc - so if you were doing 400 mg per week with 200mg per ml bootle then 2 shots per week of one ml/cc each.

Syringe - you could use 3 or 5ml syringes. Inject with a 25 gauge needle, draw from the bottle with a 20 gauge.