Goalseeker, day 24, test/deca

[goalseeker]

Just wondering if you guys can see any difference at day 24 of test/deca.. Its deceiving to me cuz the first 3 weeks of Drol didnt make me feel anything after taking 100-200mgs/ed.. All I can see is my gut went down a bit I think. See any difference? I know its early, but after the experience with the drol, I need some feedback please...Constructive critisism is always appreciated...thx

[*Narkissos*]

um.. how long've you been training?

[goalseeker]

Lifting on and off for around 8 years.. Did a couple other cycles of test within the last few years..Stopped to raise my family, and Just started lifting again a couple months ago..Any critisism Nark?

[*Narkissos*]

Just started lifting again a couple months ago..Any critisism Nark?

Um.. well i can definately tell that you had stopped lifting.

Personally i'd've suggested you trained for a bit more than a 'couple months' before you started cycling again.

Still... i wish you good luck

You bodyfat appears lower in the newer pic

~Narkissos

[Brent_G]

i can see less body fat on the stomach. Lil more peak in the biceps.

And tanner ha

[goalseeker]

It takes guts to post a pic on here, for those of us who arent as far advanced as others, but I look at it as a driving tool for me to achieve my goal, and it makes me work even harder.. Thats the only reason why I put my pic up there...as embarassing as it sometimes may be, doesnt matter to me...

[tranzit]

It takes guts to post a pic on here, for those of us who arent as far advanced as others, but I look at it as a driving tool for me to achieve my goal, and it makes me work even harder.. Thats the only reason why I put my pic up there...as embarassing as it sometimes may be, doesnt matter to me...

Goal remeber one thing there is NEW muscle and old muscle.. guys who have new muscle havent hit the set backs in life "major injurys" Lack of motivation, marrige, divorce, loseing a job, makeing sacrafices of that training being one of them. When they hit 35-40 years old and have been lifting since 16 or so have them post their pictures then. If i had nothing to do but go to school and work out id be a freak. But being a father, buisness owner, with a full time carrer home wife ect,.. somtimes sacrafices have to be made.. and none of those can be sacraficed the gym can be.

[*Narkissos*]

Goal remeber one thing there is NEW muscle and old muscle.. guys who have new muscle havent hit the set backs in life "major injurys" Lack of motivation, marrige, divorce, loseing a job, makeing sacrafices of that training being one of them. When they hit 35-40 years old and have been lifting since 16 or so have them post their pictures then. If i had nothing to do but go to school and work out id be a freak. But being a father, buisness owner, with a full time carrer home wife ect,.. somtimes sacrafices have to be made.. and none of those can be sacraficed the gym can be.

Admirable post Tranzit ..insightful

[pelly789]

i agree with narkissos you probaly should have waited a little longer before cycling although you are making good improvements good luck with it your lookin better

[goalseeker]

thanks bro.. Its early, but I wanted to post those ones so I can post another one in a few more weeks to show the improvements...nice tatts BTW...

[IBdmfkr]

Good luck with the cycle, lets see the legs

[thickmass]

cycling after such a long layoff is the same as a newbie juicing after 3 months.

And it shows. Theres only miniscule difference, which you would have achieved without jabbing yourself at all.

[SwoleCat]

cycling after such a long layoff is the same as a newbie juicing after 3 months.

And it shows. Theres only miniscule difference, which you would have achieved without jabbing yourself at all.

Yup....

~SC~

[surfnsailor]

Quote:
Originally Posted by thickmass
cycling after such a long layoff is the same as a newbie juicing after 3 months.

And it shows. Theres only miniscule difference, which you would have achieved without jabbing yourself at all.


Yup....

~SC~

Yup....

~SC~

I agree.

[sp9]

I understand the comments guys, but we are not all working from the same genetic makeup. I know poeple who run 10 miles a day high altitude and work out and look like they are no model for the cover of muscle and fitness, while the truth is there stonger, and have better blood work than others who look a lot better.

I can see a big diff in body fat. You are doing well. Keep up the hard work. Do you have pictures from when you were in your peak of working out to compare to?

[goalseeker]

I can see a big diff in body fat. You are doing well. Keep up the hard work.

thx bro. It is very hard work indeed. Raising a big family, working 9 hours a day, and just finding the time to go to the gym inbetween kids homework in the evening is a challenge in itself! Can be quite the juggling act at times...

[thickmass]

thx bro. It is very hard work indeed. Raising a big family, working 9 hours a day, and just finding the time to go to the gym inbetween kids homework in the evening is a challenge in itself! Can be quite the juggling act at times...

I love it.

Even SC tells you you're a tosser, but you cling to the one post that encourages stupidity.

.... only in America

[sp9]

I love it.

Even SC tells you you're a tosser, but you cling to the one post that encourages stupidity.

.... only in America

Nice comments. We are talking about a 39 year old man (if it was someone in their early 20's my comments would have been different), who can make his own decisions. Not everyone's goal here is to be or even look like a body builder, and there is nothing wrong with that. It is about changing your body faster than naturally possible and doing it right/safely so you retain those gains.

People in our mid thirties on up see a nice benefit from test that is not just physical.

Maybe he got a little anxious to use roids, but doesn't everyone? I have a stockpile and think about starting my planned cycle early many times each day.

[goalseeker]

I love it.

Even SC tells you you're a tosser, but you cling to the one post that encourages stupidity.

.... only in America

post YOUR pic

[WHOADY4SHOADY]

Im not going to pick on you like a little kid in school, but I do agree with the other guys about waiting, I mean you should have at least cut some BF off before you hit the sauce. Good luck with your cycle, be safe.

[*Narkissos*]

post YOUR pic

ditto..

[ajfina]

I love it.

Even SC tells you you're a tosser, but you cling to the one post that encourages stupidity.

.... only in America

I want to freaking kill u right now

[sp9]

I love it.

Even SC tells you you're a tosser, but you cling to the one post that encourages stupidity.

.... only in America

Did I tell you yet that you suck!

You god damn newbies from march 2002! You suck balls!

[surfnsailor]

I love it.

Even SC tells you you're a tosser, but you cling to the one post that encourages stupidity.

.... only in America

Did I tell you yet that you suck!

You god damn newbies from march 2002! You suck balls!

Come on guys give him a break, he just seems naïve and in denial. It feels good to believe that roids are magic pills, he will find out they are not on his own, we don’t need to bash him. Good luck on your training buddy! I am not an expert or huge but I know you need to lift heavy weight at low reps to pack on muscle, like you should fail (cant do another rep) at about 6 or so reps. Take care.

[tranzit]

I love it.

Even SC tells you you're a tosser, but you cling to the one post that encourages stupidity.

.... only in America

weee

[NickHex81]

Still haven't seen Thickmass' picture...?

[CENADICT]

u are definately leaner in the second pic. also more pic on biceps and looking wider. keep up the good work.

Good Luck bro

[PLAYA4LIFE]

good have gotten same results without the steroids

[SnaX]

It's not wise to juice so soon after such a long rest..
whether or not it's going to harm your body...another thing to look at, is that it's money you're spending on gear, that you could save for a better cycle in the future, and it will count more then.

[goalseeker]

thats good critisism.. I agree with you guys...thx

[IBdmfkr]

Post it up son... lol

[Anthony C]

Looking good bro ........AC

[thaileeee]

lookin good dude,but I believe a solid natural base should be the first stage if your about to do juice.great results this way,and the new gains stay longer.good luck mate.

[illuzions]

can def. see the diff. in the gut...keep training hard and use the pics for motivation...in a couple months you will look even better

[omnipotent]

body fat is lower in second pic.. biceps and lats appear to be more defined/ bigger


keep it up bro !

[NotSmall]

Hey surfnturf I'm pretty sure sp9 was referring to thickmass not goalseeker.

[IBdmfkr]

Probably won't see it either. lol

[IBdmfkr]

True Tranzit, BUT really it's all an excuse if you ask me. I know plenty of 35-45 yr olds that are in excellent shape that have had numerous injuries and have all if not more of those responsibilities you listed. So I don't see it as an "insightful" post, but I can respect it just as well. Best of luck with your recovery.

[tranzit]

True Tranzit, BUT really it's all an excuse if you ask me. I know plenty of 35-45 yr olds that are in excellent shape that have had numerous injuries and have all if not more of those responsibilities you listed. So I don't see it as an "insightful" post, but I can respect it just as well. Best of luck with your recovery.

IBD i agree it is an excuse but its a realistic one. For every 1 person who is in shape at 35-45 who was lifting when they were younger. Their are 1000 who have battled life and ended up takeing alot of time off from the gym. When i was 18-24 i was ripped 8 pack, vascular, thined out everywhere. Nice V shape ect. After my first major back injury i was never the same. I do not use my glute and ab muscles as much becouse i have trained my body to avoid using my back as much as possible. It wasnt somthing i tried to do it happens when you feel pain. You just approach things diffrently. I know hundreds of guys who were in great shape when younger and now strugle. And i also know quite a few older guys who never did much in the gym and were thin who worked out for a few years and Bam.. they were stacked. Initial muscle growth with training even at later stages in your life is alot more dramatic in most cases. And this is one of the reasons why newbies who use AAS explode their first few cycles. The muscle has never been stressed enough to grow. Also not stressed enough to injure. After all muscle growth comes from tears and repairing. I am not making a half cocked excuse. I have seen this happen countless times. I know you are married ect.. But you are also young and very motivated. After awhile with most people the motivation leaves for one reason or another. Somtimes just for awhile sometimes for good. there are 24 hours in a day. And when you have other things in your life that take up the majority of that time you end up having to sacrafice. In my case i put training on the back burner for three years. I didnt do anything. But half of this was a choice and the other half was what i had to do as a result of a few major injurys. A quad tear in each leg. a Herniated disc in my lower back. Also was diagnosed with degen disc deaise. Tendeitus in my right forearm. Nerve damage from an on the job accident. So like i said, yes it is an excuse but it isnt an excuse like the dog ate my homework.. or i work a 9-5 and just cant make it to the gym. I am of the same mindset as you are on this. People who have time to sit on their asses and play games, or watch TV or whatever.. are making excuses. Somone who has a family, a yard and home that needs upkeeping. A 12 hour work day and other things on a daily basis are excused from the lame ass excuse club.

[HOAXX]

goal seeker is the man !!