Is tren to rough for a second cycle? My first cycle was dbol@40mg for 4 weeks, 500mg cyp for 12..
Is tren to rough for a second cycle? My first cycle was dbol@40mg for 4 weeks, 500mg cyp for 12..
u kan if u feel so inclined i would run test for 12 weeks and tren at 35-50mg ED for 8-10 weeks
i feel that tren is a better choice than WIN as far as sides .. win is just f'n evil
Originally Posted by taiboxa
really? I always seem to read tren has the worste sides.. but good stuff.. thanks for the reply
ok as far as pain in the ass sides yes..Originally Posted by MiZongMaster
WIN
****s up me joints
cholesterol
heart via cholesterol
liver BIG TIME if u wanna get something outta it
big DHT = NOT FUN
Tren
high blood pressure but its only temp and can be controlled easier than cholestrol
night sweats which are really neat
very VERY MILD hepatoxicity if any .. show me studies
high androgenic rating kan make previous injuries surface..
but as far as gains vs sides go i will take tren over win EVERY TIME.
i feel that the sides from win dont warrant the gains.
Originally Posted by taiboxa
I see people mention tren a, and tren e.. what are the differences? yes I tried searching but couldnt find any good posts about comparing the 2
ester broOriginally Posted by MiZongMaster
do some research U MUST KNOW ESTERS before you EVER CYCLE.
lol, I know what esters are.. just didnt know that was the differenceOriginally Posted by taiboxa
enanthate long ester ace short esterOriginally Posted by MiZongMaster
ace > enan or hex
nicely put taiboxa and I am currently doing a cycle close to what you are looking to do and this is how mine looks.
Week
1 Test-E 500mg/Wk Nolvadex 10mg ED
2 Test-E 500mg/Wk Nolvadex 10mg ED
3 Test-E 500mg/Wk Nolvadex 10mg ED
4 Test-E 500mg/Wk Nolvadex 10mg ED
5 Test-E 500mg/Wk Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
6 Test-E 500mg/Wk Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
7 Test-E 500mg/Wk Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
8 Test-E 500mg/Wk Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
9 Test-E 500mg/Wk Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
10 Test-E 500mg/Wk Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
11 Test-E 500mg/Wk Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
12 Fina50mg ED Nolvadex 10mg ED
13 Clomid day 1 300mg Nolvadex 20mg ED
14 Clomid day 2-11 100mg ed Nolvadex 20mg ED
15 Clomid day 12-21 50 mg ed Nolvadex 20mg ED
(Clomid Starts 13 days after my last Test-E shot and 3 days after my last Fina shot.)
i wouldnt do tren for my second cycle i would just stack one or two compounds im about to order my third cycle and ill tell you i still wont mess with it yet im not ready maybe for a fourth or fifth but i would hold up on a sec
not to hijack bro but that is a horrible arangement..Originally Posted by A&FGuy
shud run tren from start and let the metabolites degrade while your still running test to ensure a safer more effective recovery but oh well good luck
i would run
1-8 fina
1-12 test
But wont you lose your gains from the the fina in the last 4 weeks, wouldnt it be better to start my pct right after the ester is gone.
I ran tren at 100mg eod stacked with test prop 200mg eod for my third cycle and loved it.
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