sus

[wamps08]

is 250 mg of sus enough for my first cycle????

[wamps08]

im sry, 250 mg a week????

[Booz]

personally i would say no....
imo a 1st cycle should consist of 500mg test weekly,pref enanthate.......

[wamps08]

wat if i stack it with deca, you still think its not enough, and plus its allready bought

[Booz]

what are your stats mate??
training hist???

[Booz]

wat if i stack it with deca, you still think its not enough, and plus its allready bought

imo test only for a 1st cycle..............

[wamps08]

ive taken some winstrol, i really liked it, i pulled my hamstring in off season, and that srewed up my schollarship, ive been working out since regularly since i was bout 16 and ready for a real cycle....

21, 175lbs

[velvetlion]

imo test only for a 1st cycle..............

Listen to Booz, he knows what he is talking about even if he does have a pansy looking bear in his avatar. Don't just do a cycle with what is available at the time. Plan far enough ahead that you have everything that you need in advance to run a proper cycle.

Just kidding on the avatar Booz, I can't talk much with "The velvet lion"

[farrebarre]

my first cycle was

week 1-12 sustanon 250mg/week
week 1-11 deca 200mg/week
week 1-4 dbol 25mg/day

and i had GREAT results

[wamps08]

heres wat i was plannin on doin

1-10 sus 250 a week
1-6 deca 300 every 4 days
7-14 clen

[wamps08]

oh and i have bout 3 weeks of winstrol left over.....is it ok to throw that in there after the deca with clen? or is that to much cutting..... 150mg weekly

[farrebarre]

heres wat i was plannin on doin

1-10 sus 250 a week
1-6 deca 300 every 4 days
7-14 clen

first IMO cycles under 12 weeks are a waist of money, and you always want more test than deca (unless u want deca dick). Always run the test atleast a week longer than deca.

do some more research and good luck

[Booz]

imo i would never advocate two compounds in the 1st cycle.........you do not know how you will react to either.......take test only see how you react off it,then in your next add the deca.....obviously your gonna do what you want...so i am done!

[WelshWarrior]

Plus, your deca dosage should always be lower than your test dosage or else you will get deca dick.

[tbjake34]

500mg/wk sus is enough no deca IMO Dont do deca first cycle

[muscle_20]

500mg test=first cycle this will give you the results you want and you can then judge how test reacts to your body.......if you take deca and get some bad sides how do you know if it was the test or the deca that cause it?!
the deca will shut you down very hard also and you wont see any better gains because of it.
you want to get rid of the sust also and get a single ester because sust is hard to control(varieing blood levels)just because you have some thing doesnt mean you have to use it........in the end the cost of gear has nothing to do with it because of the huge effect it has on your body i dont see how you could ever rationalise using what is at hand or is the cheapest.