Sustanon, Oxandralone, and Growth

[ablake12000]

Good evening:

This is my first post! I have followed this site for a while and have read all of the great advise and opinions. I know what I need to include so I do not want to sound like such a novice and can get the most accurate and informed advise without wasting anyones time.

I am 37 years old. Weight is 182 lbs. Body fat somewhere around 10%. I want to get a little bigger, harder, and leaner. I train hard, diet is decent.

I have taken steroids on and off for the last 7 years. I usually take 12 - 18 months in between cycles.

My last cycle was a twelve week cycle i did 18 months ago and this is what I took:

Deca 400mgs week
Test Prop 200 mgs week
Test Enantate 300 mgs
Hgh 2 iu's a day

When I came off my cycle my test levels were at 6,700. I only gained 14 pounds solid muscle.

I gained a little water, leaned out well due to diet at the end

I think I should have gained more, but I gained quality. I did the usual HCG and Clomid during and after the cycle as well as Arimadex during for a little Gyno.

I want to make sure I am going on this next one right.



I started 20 days ago the following:

Oxandralone 60 mgs daily I take 20 mgs three times split nine hours apart.
Sustanon 250 Taken Once weekly
HGH Somatropin 2 IU's Daily 5 days a week, 2 days off


Here is where I need the help. I am 37, have a head full of hair and have not had any problems in the past even with the last cycle. I am not a bodybuilder, I want to have an edge. I do not seek to get huge, I want to be in great shape with that extra look and feel. I am sure you know what I mean.

The jury is out on the Sust 250. My scalp has really been tongling lately since I started it.

Please help me and let me know your thoughts. I do not mind switching to something else. I am getting a little harder and a little bigger.

I want to accomplish quality results but am not wanting to get huge.

Please advise.

I hope I have given enough info.

[gmmvp42]

not sure what you are asking, I don't know what tongling means. I have experience with the substances you are taking but after reading your post all I can think is HUH? I wouldn't use the 2iu hgh but thats just me, if you can afford it then go for it.

[ablake12000]

Tingling, not tongling. Keyboard error.

I am wanting to get lean and harder. Firm up without going overboard.

I hope this makes sense.

I just want to do enough to get a little edge.

[pduke1234]

that all depends on your diet man.

[ablake12000]

My diet is good.

I could be a little stricter, am almost there.

[slacker]

maybe you should post your diet in the diet forum. I'm sure they could clean it up for you.

[goldenFloyd]

i think he wants to know whether the sust is going to make him lose hair.

are you actually losing hair right now? Like in the shower or in the morning is there a *lot* more hair on your pillow or in the drain? If not, I wouldn't worry about it. If so, go back to test e since you mentioned that it didn't give you a problem before.

I think you outline a mild cycle that will net you results - but how long do you plan to run it? Running GH for 12 weeks is not really optimal - if you can afford it, run it for 6 months minimum, past you PCT - it will help you recover better.

2iu is a standard replacement dose at his age and appropriate for his stated goals.

good luck.

[ablake12000]

I plan on running GH for at least a year minimal. I do have more hair in the drain in the shower.

On my previous cycle I used Nizoral Shampoo. Do not know if it helped or not.


What are your thoughts on just doing a cycle of Oxandralone for 12 weeks at 60 mg daily?

Should I go off the Sust 250 and go back to enantate?

Please advise.

Thanks

[Gear]

Your HGH doses depend on what you want to achive. Lower doses are gererally better for fat loss purposes, and higher doses are more for muscle mass. At your age, I don't think you will need that much GH anyway, but then again, it depends on what you want to achive. You said you want to look leaner? Then stick to lower doses, and running GH for 1 year is a great idea by the way. You can get a lot more info regarding HGH in the HGH forum. Come there and I and the rest of the boys there will help you out. Any other AAS enquiries, stay here.

I think you are having too much of a break between cycles, but if that's what works best for you then stick to doing just that.

I would bump your test to at least 500mgs p/week, and take at least 300mgs of prop p/week. You can either take enanthate or or sust, either way they will both bring same results. Sustanon will give you water retention, but not as much as enanthate will. So if you don't want too much water retention, stick to sustanon.

All the best.

-Gear