Cycle Critique 2006: Winny, Sust, EQ, Primo

[XReps]

First...thanks for taking a second and checkin this over. Just a quick background, I did my first cycle in 2003, second in 2004, took off 2005 and looking to get back into the game. Second...not a noob, even tho the post count reflects that. I was an active member back in 2003/2004 ... then had my account deleted for personal reasons, and now came back. Ok, so this is what I'm thinking:

Cycle: Cutting

Diet: Clean, Protein-packed, including protein shakes, no bars, love nuts. I like Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard Whey Protein

Exercise: Cardio & Lifting, of course ....

Gear:
Winstrol Depot/Stanozolol: Weeks 1-12, starting off w/ 50mg up to 100mg
Sustanon: 250mg ew, 12 weeks
EQ/Boldenone Undeclynate: 400mg ew, 12 weeks
Primo/Methenolone: 300mg ew, last 6 weeks of cycle
Clenbuterol: 2 weeks on/2 weeks off – 0.04, Hubei Huangshi, China

PCT: Day 1 300mg; Day 2-11 100mg ed; Day 12-21 50mg ed

Questions/Comments:
1) I know the first thing you guys are gonna say is not enough test. I'm just looking for a small amount of test to throw into the cycle.

2) Nolva, do you think I should run it thru out cycle, or not necessary? Is Clomid enough?

3) Milk Thistle for the Winny, Taurine for the Clen ... am I missing anything else?

4) Other supplements I like to take daily include Fish Oil, Flax Seed Oil, Green Tea Extract, Ginko Biloba, Source of Life Multi Vitamin, Fiber supplements to keep me regular.

5) I'm currently 205lbs, low BF, just a gut I cant get rid off, (not a beer drinker), 5'8" looking to get down to 180. The avatar was me in 2003 on a winny only cycle with some clen, xtra clean diet, cardio, exercise, etc.

6) One some days, ill be taking Sust, EQ & Primo. Can I combine that all in one pin?

[G-1000]

Winstrol Depot/Stanozolol: Weeks 1-12, starting off w/ 50mg up to 100mg
Sustanon: 250mg ew, 12 weeks
EQ/Boldenone Undeclynate: 400mg ew, 12 weeks
Primo/Methenolone: 300mg ew, last 6 weeks of cycle
Clenbuterol: 2 weeks on/2 weeks off – 0.04, Hubei Huangshi, China

PCT: Day 1 300mg; Day 2-11 100mg ed; Day 12-21 50mg ed

OK bro

You should not run the winny that long. Winny is a 17aa and is harsh on the liver. 6 weeks sould be the max to run it and you will get all the gains you need. The dose i would run at 100mg day with the live support.

Sust should be shoot ed or eod. The does is just a a little low. I would just up ot to 500mg. I would also run it 14 weeks 2 weeks past the eq.

This is how i would run the cycle.
1-14 sust 500mg week
1-12 eq 400mg week
8-10 winny 100mg day
clen 2 on 2 off jusy like you have it.

This will give you the same gains or better then whet you have and it will be much cheeper.

[XReps]

Thanks gsxxr, basically what your suggesting is doubling the sust, and shortening the winny run. In your cycle, you suggest only running 3 weeks of winny...is that right?

[G-1000]

Im sorry 10-16 on the winny.
yes up the sust

[XReps]

Im sorry 10-16 on the winny.
yes up the sust

ok cool, much better I love winny, im a winny freak!!!

[XReps]

[G-1000]

Hell with the primo.


If you wont to add it even know it's not worth shit i would run it week. 8-16

1-14 sust 500mg week
1-12 eq 400mg week
8-16 prime 100mg eod. Still dont like it.
10-16 winny 100mg day

[XReps]

i can do away with the primo if you think its unnecessary. would you replace it with something else (a cutter?) or just leave it out completely and run the Sust/EQ/Winny?

[G-1000]

No you have the eq and winny. That with a clean diet will rip the shit out of you.

[XReps]

thanks for the

[XReps]

BUMP'ing this to the top for the Monday Morning Crew ....

1) so no nolva needed? Just making sure. Should I have any on deck, just incase?
2) Sust & EQ. Can I combine that in one pin?

[BOBBY D]

BUMP'ing this to the top for the Monday Morning Crew ....

1) so no nolva needed? Just making sure. Should I have any on deck, just incase?
2) Sust & EQ. Can I combine that in one pin?

yes u can combine sust & eq in the same pin.. & i told u so about 500mg of sust per week. dont worry about the bloating, sustanon has minimal bloat & u dont need to take advantage of the prop in "your" case, so eod shots of sust is not needed. as we spoke in "the office" on sunday i know what ur goal is regarding test, u dont want to be shut down so twice a week injects (2ml/wk) will be fine. just think about it bro, this is ur first time on SUSTANON so u will enjoy & wont regret it..

isn't it great to have the AR board confirm, makes u feel good ! NOW LETS HIT THE BEACH!

[BajanBastard]

This is a cutting cycle so where are the aromatise inhibitors? Letrozole @ .5mg ED/EOD or 25mg ED of aromasin if you can get it well help alot. Don't even bother with the primo just use the money to get the A.Is. Save the nolva for PCT.

[XReps]

Ok...all good feedback guys, thanks.
- took out the Primo from the stack
- can combine Sust & EQ in one pin
- have n0lva on deck for P.C.T., along with Clo
- look into AI's ... Letrozole

I'd have to look into & research Letrozole(letro) , because I don't know squat about it. What would be the purpose of running it?