deca only and my plan !!

[fitguy]

hey guys , i have ran test only before and gained some nice mass but i had hairloss problems and face acne which i couldnt combat using anything except accutane and running accutane throughout the cycle is so expensive for me to afford , i was planning a test deca cycle but i will have to get plenty of accutane as test exacerbates my acne and also hairloss would be an issue since a lot of talk is out there regarding the use of finasteride and deca together so i thought may be i can run deca by its own , my goal is to gain 6 or more kilos of muscle mass without having any sides , as far as deca dick goes i will be using pregnyl throughout the cycle and if any sides of deca dick starts to appear i will just run test prop at the end of my cycle if i had to ,i know that a lot of guys ran deca with decent results and a lot didnt experience that deca dick ..i am not looking to use aas forever just to gain 6 or more kilos and maintain them after that without worrying much about cutting or bulking ,just looking for a lean atheletic built and i am trying to achieve that without having hairloss or acne that would disfigure my face ,i thought about running turinabol or anavar but there aint any here in egypt and the only ones outthere are fakes...can i gain a nice mass with deca without having any sides regarding acne and hairloss ? its gonna be the 1st time for me to use deca ?

[SVTMuscle*]

Deca is known to be very mild effects wise, the risk is always there of course with any androgenic chemical you put in your body, but it wont be as bad as test. Deca isnt a DHT deritive so it should be realitively safe for your hair.
But running Deca without test is highly not recommended. What is the Pregnyl you'll be using? What does that do in regards to avoid deca dick?

[fitguy]

Deca is known to be very mild effects wise, the risk is always there of course with any androgenic chemical you put in your body, but it wont be as bad as test. Deca isnt a DHT deritive so it should be realitively safe for your hair.
But running Deca without test is highly not recommended. What is the Pregnyl you'll be using? What does that do in regards to avoid deca dick?

pregnyl is hcg ,i am going to run it through out the cycle just to keep the size of my testes nomral and avoid their atrophy ,i know that test is the base of every cycle and i would definetely run it if was to cycle heavy compounds or plan on running several cycles but i am looking just for one or 2 other cycles and i dont want to get much sides cause i am still combating the face acne i got when i used test before and hairloss is a concern for me ,just 6 or more kilos on my frame and i will achieve the look i am going for and as i said if got deca dick i will run test prop the last 2 or 3 weeks before pct to restore my sexual functions ..peace

[SVTMuscle*]

how old are you?

[aa-i_ns]

deca - is good

[powerliftmike]

If you know what you are doing you will get minimal acne. You need to shoot frequently, dont wash face with soap (thats right DONT), get noncomedogenic cleansers, and topical retinoids. Hairloss wont be an issue if you take with finasteride or dutasteride. Fvck deca, test rules

[fitguy]

If you know what you are doing you will get minimal acne. You need to shoot frequently, dont wash face with soap (thats right DONT), get noncomedogenic cleansers, and topical retinoids. Hairloss wont be an issue if you take with finasteride or dutasteride. Fvck deca, test rules

i can control body acne using these measures but not facial acne i am afraid and as far as using finasteride use with test it will stop hairloss caused from test but will increase hairloss caused by deca ..

[vitor]

Deca gets convertet to a milder androgen thrue the 5ar, DHN. So whatever activity deca has in the AR-in the muscle, there will be alot less activity in the scalp and skin.

Deca is therefor the safest steroid as far as acne and hairloss is concern.

[fitguy]

Deca gets convertet to a milder androgen thrue the 5ar, DHN. So whatever activity deca has in the AR-in the muscle, there will be alot less activity in the scalp and skin.

Deca is therefor the safest steroid as far as acne and hairloss is concern.

what is a realisitc goal to look for when using deca ?

[vitor]

what is a realisitc goal to look for when using deca ?

Well, you should defently not expect any dramtic gains on a deca only-cycle. It will also shut down your natty test, which will take away some of what deca is adding.

At 400 mgs ew, you will get some modest results IMO.

[tvd220]

If you know what you are doing you will get minimal acne. You need to shoot frequently, dont wash face with soap (thats right DONT), get noncomedogenic cleansers, and topical retinoids. Hairloss wont be an issue if you take with finasteride or dutasteride. Fvck deca, test rules

sometimes even when all this is followed, people still get alot of acne. Its person to person. But what you are describing is definally the right aproach.

[ivrig]

well if you plan to take deca alone, i would add proviron maybe, to avoid deca-dick.

and deca is very mild on the hair

[tvd220]

hey guys , i have ran test only before and gained some nice mass but i had hairloss problems and face acne which i couldnt combat using anything except accutane and running accutane throughout the cycle is so expensive for me to afford , i was planning a test deca cycle but i will have to get plenty of accutane as test exacerbates my acne and also hairloss would be an issue since a lot of talk is out there regarding the use of finasteride and deca together so i thought may be i can run deca by its own , my goal is to gain 6 or more kilos of muscle mass without having any sides , as far as deca dick goes i will be using pregnyl throughout the cycle and if any sides of deca dick starts to appear i will just run test prop at the end of my cycle if i had to ,i know that a lot of guys ran deca with decent results and a lot didnt experience that deca dick ..i am not looking to use aas forever just to gain 6 or more kilos and maintain them after that without worrying much about cutting or bulking ,just looking for a lean atheletic built and i am trying to achieve that without having hairloss or acne that would disfigure my face ,i thought about running turinabol or anavar but there aint any here in egypt and the only ones outthere are fakes...can i gain a nice mass with deca without having any sides regarding acne and hairloss ? its gonna be the 1st time for me to use deca ?

When was your accutane treatment? When did is end? Are you cleared up now?

Why dont you try a low dose of test prop ED @ 25-50mg just to keep test levels at a safe level.
Test prop should have minimal acne sides because it is ED and keeps blood levels consistant.
OR
Look into andriol, its an oral test with hardly no acne sides. I have the same problem as you, and I am constructing a low acne cycle for May 1st. I am looking into andriol, I have never used it, but have heard good things in reguards to acne. It has mixxed reveiws with the members of this site, but I feel its worth a try.

[fitguy]

When was your accutane treatment? When did is end? Are you cleared up now?

Why dont you try a low dose of test prop ED @ 25-50mg just to keep test levels at a safe level.
Test prop should have minimal acne sides because it is ED and keeps blood levels consistant.
OR
Look into andriol, its an oral test with hardly no acne sides. I have the same problem as you, and I am constructing a low acne cycle for May 1st. I am looking into andriol, I have never used it, but have heard good things in reguards to acne. It has mixxed reveiws with the members of this site, but I feel its worth a try.

i dont know about andriol and never heard about it before ,my acne treatment ended 3 months ago ,it cleared me a lot and i only get acne very slightly but i am sure it will get worse if i ran another cycle of test..peace

[fitguy]

Well, you should defently not expect any dramtic gains on a deca only-cycle. It will also shut down your natty test, which will take away some of what deca is adding.

At 400 mgs ew, you will get some modest results IMO.

can i gain 6 kilos or more on deca alone ,its my first deca use btw ..

[fitguy]

sometimes even when all this is followed, people still get alot of acne. Its person to person. But what you are describing is definally the right aproach.

i have tried all that ,topical antibiotics ,retin a ,washing my face with face soap ,benzul peroxide ,i have tried a lot of stuff but they only had a very little effect on my face acne, i only get acne on my face while none on my body and accuatne is the only thing that worked with me ..

[tvd220]

you would probably gain that much with deca if your diet is in check.

[vitor]

can i gain 6 kilos or more on deca alone ,its my first deca use btw ..

Thats really hard to say. It comes down to genetics and diet/training mostly.

But 400mgs of Deca ew, is more anabolic than your natrual testosterone levels, thats for sure. So you will get some results.

[fitguy]

but i will have to stop finasteride when using deca right ?

[SVTMuscle*]

bro you avoided my AGE question

[Rickson]

I agree that if you are going to attempt deca without test then Proviron is a must. No one here can tell you how much you will gain or what sides you may experience. The sides for hair loss are greatly decreased with deca but their are other sides to be concerned with such as BP and a myriad of problems that come from no test in the body.

[fitguy]

bro you avoided my AGE question

lolll,,calm down bro i didnt avoid your question ,i am 21 years old..

[fitguy]

I agree that if you are going to attempt deca without test then Proviron is a must. No one here can tell you how much you will gain or what sides you may experience. The sides for hair loss are greatly decreased with deca but their are other sides to be concerned with such as BP and a myriad of problems that come from no test in the body.

what problems are u refering to bro ?

[Rickson]

The male body does not like to be without test. It causes more than just sexual sides such a mental acuity problems, depression, and lethargy to name a few. You can find lots of info on it if you search the board or pubmed. Most people focus on the sexual sides but that is certainly not the only problem.

[Big Broker 1]

i wouldn't do deca alone. but if you are,have pct ready....deca di@k is no fun

[tvd220]

you can always do your deca cycle with a low dose test to reduce the sides

[tvd220]

The male body does not like to be without test. It causes more than just sexual sides such a mental acuity problems, depression, and lethargy to name a few. You can find lots of info on it if you search the board or pubmed. Most people focus on the sexual sides but that is certainly not the only problem.

very good point
people often only talk about "deca dick"

[ivrig]

so add proviron! at least, can`t understand why you won`t throw in some test..

[vitor]

The male body does not like to be without test. It causes more than just sexual sides such a mental acuity problems, depression, and lethargy to name a few. You can find lots of info on it if you search the board or pubmed. Most people focus on the sexual sides but that is certainly not the only problem.

Proviron can solve most of these problems to a degree.

Because its the DHT, convertet by the test, which is what stimulates libido/feel good factor. As Proviron has a stucture similar to DHT it can trigger it.

[fitguy]

proviron cause hairloss and acne problems so it doesnt differ that much from test ..

[fitguy]

well another question ,if i ran test 750 mg only and used finasteride ,nizoral for hairloss and accutane at very low doses throughout the cycle what are my chances of getting acne and hairloss if any ? also can i achieve 6 or more kilos from running test alone ? peace

[fitguy]

bump for anyone who run deca alone before ??