EPO & Clenbuterol

[pin cushion]

Is their any reason why i shouldn't use epo & clen together? I'm sing v low amount of epo but am building up to 100mcg ed of clen?

[SHAGGY]

I personally have not used EPO before, nor have I used clen. But I personally wouldn't combine the two(although I am pretty sure it can be done safely), because EPO causes a rise in RedBloodCells(this makes your blood somewhat thicker) and it is known that Clen has a stimulating effect, thus putting extra strain on your heart. I am very sensitive to stimulants so I would refrain from using the 2 together. But thenagain I am sure someone on the board must have used the 2 together safely. Try to search around a bit I am sure you will find the answers to your questions.

Hope I helped.

SHAGGY

[powerliftmike]

Is their any reason why i shouldn't use epo & clen together? I'm sing v low amount of epo but am building up to 100mcg ed of clen?

Have you run EPO by itself before? Have you run clen by itself before? If no to either one of those, dont combine them. If you tolerate both by themselves you can try to combine them. Be careful, both stress the heart.

[jp_blois]

What sport do u do pin cushion?

[pin cushion]

Into cycling and also do a bit of rowing. I've used clenbuterol quite a few times and tolerate it well but i'm just on epo at moment for the first time. i've read a few of the boards and fancy using Eq at some point in future as the boards i've read all say it increases rbc. dont think i'll take the clen until i've finished taking the epo (i'm not using a maintenance dose, just taking it all within a two week period).

i'm also finishing off some cytomel at the moment, very low dose of 25mg per day with 3 kelp tablets a day for the iodine and plan to start the clenbuterol when these run out.

[jp_blois]

Hey, as an endurance athlete, how did you find Clen? Were you taking it when you were in heavy training? OR...? Interested

[400mtrackstar]

WOW clen kills your endurance I promise. 100m runners used to take it but they even stoped putting it in the protocal because its so hard on endurance.

Second I would not take clen that shit is dangerous. Look up the studies about how it stiffens caradiac muscle in rats. If you need to lose fat keep you diet in check. If you still need to lose fat your diets wrong or you need to change how you work out.

If you can afford a good epo cycle why ruin it with clen.

Stay away from clen please

[pin cushion]

thanks for the advice trackstar. In the past, I've taken clen only for eacxhg actual event and found it helps. when i've used clen continuously ie on a six or eight week cycle, i've not had any events, just been in hard training. didn't notice any negative effects and the fat loss seemed to help. you're right about diet though, mine is pretty bad - i either eat super clean or super crap, all or nothing. on the occasions when i clean it up, the amount of cardio and weights i do allow me to strip the fat off really well. i usually find the clen helps me with this and the fact that i'm using it usually stops me from eating poorly - i have no problem with getting enough protein, it's the chocolate/cakes/biscuits and ice cream that i crave that screw things for me.

i'll have a good look at some clen articles then perhaps i will give the clen a miss when i'm finished epo.

[cyclist2173]

WOW clen kills your endurance I promise. 100m runners used to take it but they even stoped putting it in the protocal because its so hard on endurance.

Second I would not take clen that shit is dangerous. Look up the studies about how it stiffens caradiac muscle in rats. If you need to lose fat keep you diet in check. If you still need to lose fat your diets wrong or you need to change how you work out.

If you can afford a good epo cycle why ruin it with clen.

Stay away from clen please

Listen to this guys advice. I have seen a number of articles on clens negative effects on cardiac muscle. Plus, I have used both (but not at the same time). I used clen during a bodybuilding phase many years ago and have used EPO recently (now that I am an endurance athlete). If you want to stack something with EPO, try citrulline malate or cialis. Both of theses compouns cause vasodilation lowering BP...making your heart work easier. This is wahy they are good to stack with EPO. Also, make sure you drink plenty of water and take a baby aspirin twice daily. Just forget about the Clen and use EPO with these ancillaries. Don't forget to do your homeworok on EPO before using though. Stupidity can cost you your life!

[TrentFosters]

Where is the best place to do homework on EPO ? I have been researching it for a while now and am having trouble location information on dose, duration and cycling info.

Thanks for your time
Trent

[Chrisnjc]

I was looking for information on usage amounts and duration of EPO... Sorry you misunderstood.

[SHAGGY]

That seems to be like you are asking ofr a source; this is against the rules of this board, please edit your post and read the rules.

SHAGGY

[Chrisnjc]

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Thanks!!

[SHAGGY]

I am sorry about that.
Glad to see you edited your post.
Indeed it is somewhat more difficult to find infomation about EPO than at is for other compounds.

Maybe you can find some info on cycling boards.

Sorry I couldn't help you more though.

SHAGGY

[Mealticket]

Don't go by Hookers profile on EPO, it's way off.
I had a great response to it over a year ago but since the administration feels that no one is more intelligent then those they employ about any kind of stimulatns it got erased and edited.