sust - dbol cycle

[scerpico22]

i finally started after plentry research here im off and running...looking for any and all input.

starting pics of the following cycle - i will post week by week

wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
wk 1-10 Sust 250 E3D
wk 9-12 winny 50mg EOD
wk 1-12 Nolva 10mg ED

PCT
start 24hrs after last winny
1-30 clomid 100mg
1-30 Nolva 20mg
1-30 Arimidex .25mg

Letro on hand incase of Gyno

Goals: lean mass - if bf drops great

I know the legs need some work, just coming off knee microscopic to repair cartilage in the both left and right - surgery 6months old

stats:
6'1"
217
20%
32yo
goal: lean mass - if bf drops great - will cut later this year

Deit:
Cal / Pro / Carb / Fat

Meal 1 - procarb - 8:00am
Egg Beaters - 8 240 48 8 0
Oatmeal 100 4 19 2
Banana 105 1.3 27 0.4
Scoop of Protein 110 23 3 2
555 76 57 4

Meal 2 - profat - 10:30am
Ground Beef 291 45 0 11
Spinach 10 1 2 0
Cheddar Cheese 2% 50 4 1 3
Cheddar Cheese 2% 50 4 1 3
401 54 4 17

Meal 3 - procarb - 1:00pm
Chicken Breast 284 53 0 6
Pasta Wheat 310 12 62 2
594 65 62 8

Meal 4 - profat - 3:30pm
Mayo Light 90 0 4 8
Tuna Albacore White 240 36 0 9
330 36 4 17

Meal 5 - procarb - 6:00pm
Scoop of Protein 110 23 3 2
Scoop of Protein 110 23 3 2
Skim Milk 90 9 13 0
310 55 19 4

WORKOUT 7pm

Meal 6 - PWO - 8:30
Scoop of Protein 110 23 3 2
Scoop of Protein 110 23 3 2
Dextrose 150 40
Dextrose 150 40
520 46 86 4

Meal 7 - PPWO - 10:30
Chicken Breast 284 53 0 6
Brown Rice 160 3 32 2
Brown Rice 160 3 32 2
604 59 64 9

Meal 8 - profat - 12:30
Cottage Cheese 284 53 0 6
Peanut Butter 190 7 7 17
474 60 7 23

TOTAL FOR DAY 3787 452 303 87

Daily Sups:
Milk Thistle 300mg ED
Mega Man Multi V
BSN Cell Mass
Liver Support

i will post weekly progress...

let me know what you guys think.

[1buffsob]

Subscribed. Good luck. You should put on a lot of mass, then it'll definately be time for a cutter.

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

Subscribed. Good luck. You should put on a lot of mass, then it'll definately be time for a cutter.

1buffsob

yes buff - props to you man you really helped me with the diet. ive been on it now for 2 weeks. i started the diet 1 week before i started the gear.

not worried about BF right now, just want to put on some good size..then like you said...later will be time to cut like a ginsu...

thanks bro!

[1buffsob]

I'm always here to help a brother out.

You have a decent base to work with. The only thing really lagging would be the wheels. You need to hit these hard, maybe even twice a week. It will also help the rest of you grow.

This being your first cycle, you're at a prime time to make huge gains. I'm expecting a lot from you . Just about everyone wishes they could do their first cycle again, cuz either their diet was off/cycle wasn't optimal/training was lacking/etc. You never get that chance again to make the gains you could on a first cycle.

As far as your cycle goes, it looks pretty good. I'm not a fan of sustanon for first cycles, as I feel the esters in sust require eod injections for optimal results. However, if I were you, I'd extend my sustanon another 2 weeks to give the long esters a little more time to work. Then move the winny and PCT back 2 weeks to correspond. Just something to think about.

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

i should have posted this but its actually my second cycle. my first was done wrong....wish i knew then what i knew now....shit, if we all did right!

about 4 years ago i did a polysteron w/deca - no pct or anything...knowledge was now where near what it is now. decent gains but diet, training, mind and everything was lacking. so i lost pretty much everything...

so this is actually my second cycle and as you can see diet, and eveything else is in check...i will be concidering the sust suggestion as it makes sense with the long esters and i will adjust accordingly.

yea i know the wheels need help...i tore my cartalige in both knees about a year ago and im 6 months recovered....they are good now so i do plan on hitting them hard...

ill post my training schedule in another post...im using the guidline set in the AR front page...

[scerpico22]

here it is...

Warm ups:
2 warm up sets to begin each muscle group...

Eight-Day Training Cycle: One day training, one day rest
(One day on, one day off)

Day 1: Chest, biceps
Bench presses 3 sets 6- 8 reps
Incline bench presses 2 sets 6- 8 reps
Dips with added weights 2 sets 8-10 reps
Barbell curls 3 sets 6-10 reps
Dumbbell curls 2 sets 6-10 reps

Day 2: Rest

Day 3: Thighs
Squats 3 sets 6-10 reps
Leg presses 2 sets 8-10 reps
Leg curls 2 sets 8-10 reps

Day 4: Rest

Day 5: Shoulder, triceps
Presses behind neck 3 sets 6- 8 reps
Upright row 2 sets 8-10 reps
Side laterals 2 sets 8-10 reps
Lying triceps presses 3 sets 6-10 reps
Triceps pulley pushdown 2 sets 8-10 reps

Day 6:

Day 7: Back. calves
Chins with added weight 3 sets 8-10 reps
Lat pull to neck 2 sets 8-10 reps
Barbell bent-over row 2 sets 6-10 reps
Seated cable row 2 sets 6-10 reps
Standing calf raise 3 sets 8-12 reps
Seated calf raise 2 sets 8-12 reps

[scerpico22]

this is my first experience with dbol and the strength gains are unbelievable...ive always heard that you get much stronger and w/in the week...WOW is all i can say.

this is almost the end of week 2 and my weight it up from 217 to 225, some water i can tell but still feeling strong.

im going to try and start logging my weight training to keep track...work is so crazy right now its enough to try and keep the diet and training much less log the sh*t

ill take about 5min and see if i can jot down the past week or so.

[1buffsob]

Awesome. Nice gains. Keep em coming.

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

Im going to p/u the training log here on wednesday w/ chest/bi's - going one day on one day off as much as possible. sometimes softball throws it off...well you will see as it goes.

worked out sunday back and calfes...no details.

monday off

tuesday softball

Wednesday was chest/bi

concentrating on form and slow reps...

chest
incline dumbell
wrmup: 55lb x 20
1st set: 75lb x 10
2nd set: 85lb x 8
3rd set: 95lb x 6

flat bb
1st set: 225 x 8 - slow neg, explode up on positive
2nd set: 225 x 9 - same

dips
1st set: body weight x 8 - very, very slow
2nd set: body weight x 8 - same

bi's
bb curls
wrmup: 60lb x 20
1st set: 95lb x 8
2nd set: 95lb x 8
3rd set: 105 x 6

db curls
1st set: 50lb x 6
2nd set 50lb x 6

felt really pumped after the workout....energy was great and ran home to EAT!

thursday off

friday was leg day...hell yea...ill post that later today when i get a chance

[1buffsob]

I'm all for good form bro, but you need to take advantage of this gear and go heavy to build some size. Keep form the best you can, with cheating only thrown in the end of an exercise to get some forced reps. Go heavy weight, fast on the positive side, and slow on the negative.

Also, don't do that many reps for a warm up, no matter how light it is. It will affect your strength too much in the later sets.

Strength looks pretty good scerpico, keep it up.

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

yea, thats exactly it - slow neg, explode pos

thanks for the tip on the wrmup

[Dreaming2B-BIG]

Sounds good so far keep up the good work!

[scerpico22]

left work late last night around 10pm...ran him took 250mg's of sust chugged down a protein shake with oats and off to my buddies crib to watch the De La Hoya fight - WOW did he kick Majorga's ass...beat him the F up...

resisted the Hieni light and the fresh pizza...havent had a sip of Alcohol in 4 weeks...doin it right from now on!

woke up this AM, dropped some Dbol, Nolva, Multi V's and protein shake w/ carbs, NO Explode and hit the gym:

Shoulders/Tri's

Behind the Neck Press
warm up: 95lb x 12
set 1: 145lb x 8
set 2: 175lb x 9
set 3: 195lb x 7

Upright Rows
set 1: 155lb x 10
set 2: 185lb x 6
set 3: 185lb x 6

Bent over Lateral raises
set 1: 35lb x 10
set 2: 35lb x 10

Tri's

Tri press
warm up: 75lb x 12
set 1: 95lb x 10
set 2: 115lb x 8 - rep out presses to failure
set 3: 135lb x 7 - rep out presses to failure

Cable pushdown
set 1: 200lb (what it said on the stack) x 10
set 2: 200lb x 10 - need to go heavier here

felt awesome when i was done...great pump, really feeling strong right now.

i felt like i wanted to stay and do more (time did not allow/had to get to work) but for next time - should i keep on...trust me i worked the muscles extremely hard and i really felt some good endurance so should i keep on?

do not want to over train, im trying to follow the program listed above found on the main page of the site, so let me know what you guys think on this...i want to take full advantage in the RIGHT way.

i also want to throw in some cardio but i do not want to loose ANY mass im trying to put on...is cardio out of the question when bulking lean or is it a good idea? if so how much for the week and when?

sorry for the rant...just really focused now and want the most out of it.

thanks.

[scerpico22]

stats @ start of week 2
taken on Monday 5/1

will be taken even monday

weight - 222
waist - 41
arms - 16 1/4
forarm - 13
chest - 43 1/2
thigh - 25 1/2
calves - 15 1/2

bf ?

[scerpico22]

diet is pretty much on point still so food intake is good - im thinking to maybe up the cal intake, my body is getting used to the food now...i eat and im full for like an hour, then i start to get hungry again. within the hour...i make that decision towars the beggining of next week.

weight was 225.5 this morning May 9th - took measurments last night and will post them tomorrow so i can kep track.

last night was back/calv

chin up
body wt x 8
body wt x 7
body wt x 6

have to get stronger here

bent over bb row
135 x 12
185 x 8
185 x 8

back is starting to feel a little tight at this point

lat pull down
200 x 10
210 x 8
220 x 8

seated rows
200 x 10
210 x 8
230 x 6

calv
standing
150 x 15
180 x 10
200 x 8

seated
140 x 8
190 x 6

abs....

back was a little tight from the back w/o - it starting bothering a little earier in the week when i was doing squats. i think im gonna go a little lighter this week on squats or stick to leg press only for a week. i think thats where its coming from.

[scerpico22]

took some pick on the 9th and also updated measurments:

ill probably do the measurments every 2 weeks from here on out

taken on 5-9

weight - 222.5
waist - 40.5
arms - 16
forarm - 12.75
chest - 43 1/2
thigh - 26
calves - 15 3/4

[scerpico22]

added files...

[1buffsob]

Still a little early yet. Give it a couple more weeks and the magic will be happening.

Keep it up scerp.

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

just got back chest/bi's and really felt strong today

bad thing is i think ive developed a slight case of gyno, im starting letro tomorrow based on Bino's thread on Gyno prevention/reversal

the weird thing is its an oval lump off set to the left of my right nipple (lateral side) from what ive read it should be behind the nipple but it is not.

it is tender to the touch, although my nips are not sensitive...regardless im not taking any chances...letro begins tomorrow

chest
bench press
wrm up 135 x 15
wrm up 185 x 2
245 x 10
265 x 8
275 x 6

incline bench
205 x 10
245 x 6 - last 2 cheat

db flys
65 x 6
65 x 6

dips
bdywt x 8
bdywt x 8

bi's
bb curls
wrmup 65 x 12
95 x 10
105 x 10
115 x 8 - last 3 cheat

db curls
45 x 6
45 x 8

done and home chugin down ON double choc with 6oz skim, 4oz water and dex

in all a great day except for the ****in gyno gettin me....

[scerpico22]

Still a little early yet. Give it a couple more weeks and the magic will be happening.

Keep it up scerp.

1buffsob

thanks for checkin in buff...diet is still on point...i think i might up the cal intake...ill see how next week goes

[scerpico22]

havent had a chance to update the log, its been crazy at work.

pics taken monday 5/13

my weight dropped this monday 5/8 to 222.5, not sure if the body is starting to lean out and transfer fat to muscle but im looking thicker, im much stronger, people tell me i look bigger but my weight dropped 5lbs....

well here are my last few work outs...

saturday 5/13

legs

my back has been bothering me the past week or so when i hit the squats so i gave this a rest this week

leg press
270x12
450x10
540x10
630x8
720x6

leg ex
180x6
195x6

leg curl
130x8
130x8

[scerpico22]

sundsay was the day off and i hit on monday 5/15

shoulders/tris

milt press
75x12
175x8
175x8
195x6

upright row
145x10
165x8

lat raise
35x8
35x8

tri press
45x12
115x5 - press to fatigue
95x10 - press to fatigue
95x10 - press to fatigue

[scerpico22]

yesterday 5/17

back/calvs

pull ups
bdywtx8
bdywtx8
bdywtx8

lat pull downs - front
210x10
230x8
240x6

bent over rows
135x12
195x8
205x8

calvs
standing raises
130x12
150x10
200x8
200x8

seated
165x6
165x6

[scerpico22]

ive been on the letro now for 7days. the soarness in the right nipple area not there at all. the lump is flattened out...its still there but much flatter. im going to stay at 2.5mgs for another 3 days then ramp down to .25 ED through the end of the cycle then drop it when i start pct.

my diet has been very good and i enjoyed my cheat day on mothers day...moms cooking, you know you can pass that up.

keeping the diet at 3700cal ED - but like i said earlier my weight flucuated from 225 back to 222.5 in a week in a half...but i feel good and im very happy so far.

im heading to tampa this weekend with the little lady to get away for the weekend...ill be hittin the gyn on friday before i go, then monday when i get back.

ill update next tuesday...

almost forgot

measurements as of 5/15
bis - 16.25
forearm - 13
chest - 43.5
waist - 40
thigh 24.5
calv - 15.5

[scerpico22]

well been away for awhile super busy and have had zero time to update here. diet has been very good. i just dont think im taking in enough calaries...this is the first time i actually am on a bulking diet and wow is it tough to get all the cals down in one day....im taking in 3800 per day, i cannot imagin the guys that are taking 5k and up....amazing

well im entering week 9, the gyno thank God is gone...C Bino is the MAN!

i start the winny next week

weight is staying put at 222 but body fat is reduced to about 18%

i took measurments yeterday and ill add them tomorrow if i get a chance.

here are pics from week 1 to week 9