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[JJEB2]

ok say you are getting hand timed and you have some outliers. technically how do you really find where you are at. as i have said in other threads i am fastest at my 2nd and 3rd with my 3rd being the fastest and then i drop off with the proper rest. my times are all over the place and i even had a second hand timing for accuracy.

[JJEB2]

anyone? this is really getting to me bc my times from my first two my second are .24 or so off, second to third was .04 off, third to fourth was .17 or so off and 4th and fifth were only .02 off. very inconsistent

[buckeyefootball4]

i would try and help but i really dont know what u r asking, explain?

[JJEB2]

ok i am not even gonan tell u the times haha bc i will get bashed for them not bc they are bad but bc a few are very very good. mind u on a track tho.

my times are all over the place. they range in .2 tenths of a scond. i did 5 40 yard dashes today and that was all. my first one was my worst and the slowest. form was bad, my start was bad. second one i was fast but not my fastest and they were different by .17 or so. my 3rd time which is always my best time in anything i run was .04 lower than that time which is a remarkable time for an ILB. then the track coach came by and started to talk to me and it was like 8-10 mins before i ran again and my legs were kinda cold but i tried to warm them up. my time was .2 off from the third on. then my last one was about the same as the 4th one but i could feel my heels actually hitting the ground on the touch which is a big no no. basically what i am trying to say is both the timers were accurate and close to each other so my intial timer who timed was around were i really was on hand time.

but would u say its more my lack of speed endurance or more human error?

[buckeyefootball4]

ok i am not even gonan tell u the times haha bc i will get bashed for them not bc they are bad but bc a few are very very good. mind u on a track tho.

my times are all over the place. they range in .2 tenths of a scond. i did 5 40 yard dashes today and that was all. my first one was my worst and the slowest. form was bad, my start was bad. second one i was fast but not my fastest and they were different by .17 or so. my 3rd time which is always my best time in anything i run was .04 lower than that time which is a remarkable time for an ILB. then the track coach came by and started to talk to me and it was like 8-10 mins before i ran again and my legs were kinda cold but i tried to warm them up. my time was .2 off from the third on. then my last one was about the same as the 4th one but i could feel my heels actually hitting the ground on the touch which is a big no no. basically what i am trying to say is both the timers were accurate and close to each other so my intial timer who timed was around were i really was on hand time.

but would u say its more my lack of speed endurance or more human error?

speed endurance plays no role in 40yd training esp if ur taking enough rest btw runs, if anything u need to warmup longer so that 1 and second are ur fastest. ALSO REMEMBER THIS IS FRI LAST TRAINING DAY SO EVERY REP WONT GO AS PLAN, JUST TAKE UR FASTEST TODAY AND COMPARE IT WITH THE UPCOMINE TIMES. hope this helps.

[JJEB2]

speed endurance plays no role in 40yd training esp if ur taking enough rest btw runs, if anything u need to warmup longer so that 1 and second are ur fastest. ALSO REMEMBER THIS IS FRI LAST TRAINING DAY SO EVERY REP WONT GO AS PLAN, JUST TAKE UR FASTEST TODAY AND COMPARE IT WITH THE UPCOMINE TIMES. hope this helps.

my bad i meant with endurance of my legs. because my form in the first, fourth and fifth were horrible. i can almost feel how mush slower i was. but yea i will take that time any day of the week hahah.

[buckeyefootball4]

my bad i meant with endurance of my legs. because my form in the first, fourth and fifth were horrible. i can almost feel how mush slower i was. but yea i will take that time any day of the week hahah.

NOT AT ALL, YOU PROBABLY JUST HAD A HARD TRAINING WEEK, THAT WHY I LIKE DURING SPEED EARLY IN THE WEEK:

FOR EXAMPLE:

MON SPEED
TUE REST
WED: SPEED
THUR: REST
FRI: SPEED

OR

MON: SPEED
TUE; REST
WED: REST
THUR SPEED
FRI: REST

[JJEB2]

NOT AT ALL, YOU PROBABLY JUST HAD A HARD TRAINING WEEK, THAT WHY I LIKE DURING SPEED EARLY IN THE WEEK:

FOR EXAMPLE:

MON SPEED
TUE REST
WED: SPEED
THUR: REST
FRI: SPEED

OR

MON: SPEED
TUE; REST
WED: REST
THUR SPEED
FRI: REST

to be honest i took since monday off as far as running bc of weather permitting up here and i dont have acess to the dome anymore. i do the same as u guys as far as my speed days and such. it just happens so frequently where my numbers drop off and i feel my body not going as fast.

[seeeker]

hello.i hav made some podts.but i dont get reply.somebody tell.where ishould post.and where i get response?thanks

[JJEB2]

hello.i hav made some podts.but i dont get reply.somebody tell.where ishould post.and where i get response?thanks

depends on what u want to ask

[buckeyefootball4]

do u know how to post video on here bc they say the file is too large.

[JJEB2]

do u know how to post video on here bc they say the file is too large.

nah i dont. no idea. i amnot the most computer literate person

[JJEB2]

anything is better than nothing.

[JJEB2]

if u go back and watch reggie's first step out, look at how he pushes off with his quick leg. he comes out low and he drives off that foot. before i was just touching with the foot and off with no power. my fast few weeks i have been focusing on driving out bc its on movement and i dont want a rolling start.

[buckeyefootball4]

if u go back and watch reggie's first step out, look at how he pushes off with his quick leg. he comes out low and he drives off that foot. before i was just touching with the foot and off with no power. my fast few weeks i have been focusing on driving out bc its on movement and i dont want a rolling start.

i agree: nice read:

With the sprint starts they do require practice. Get in the right position. Lead foot 1.5 to 2 foot lengths behind the start line. Back foot one foot length behind the lead foot. Get in position and practice. Make sure you're pushing from both legs, extending fully from the start and not taking short choppy steps. In fact it often helps if you concentrate on pushing first with the trail leg. Make sure your heals aren't hitting first. If they are you're over-striding.

[JJEB2]

i agree: nice read:

With the sprint starts they do require practice. Get in the right position. Lead foot 1.5 to 2 foot lengths behind the start line. Back foot one foot length behind the lead foot. Get in position and practice. Make sure you're pushing from both legs, extending fully from the start and not taking short choppy steps. In fact it often helps if you concentrate on pushing first with the trail leg. Make sure your heals aren't hitting first. If they are you're over-striding.

yea cant get any better of advice then right there. i have made my start very fast by practice.

[buckeyefootball4]

yea cant get any better of advice then right there. i have made my start very fast by practice.

question for you, how do you push off the back leg without leaning back bc as you know you want a good forward and sometimes that forward lean take pressure off the back leg?

[JJEB2]

question for you, how do you push off the back leg without leaning back bc as you know you want a good forward and sometimes that forward lean take pressure off the back leg?

my initial push is off my front/strong leg. my quick leg come accross and i keep a low center. i head is still down at this point. my knees are bent. right leg is forward and left hand is up from a good arm swing. then i am so low that i push off my quick leg and arm switch and leg switch. these steps are staggered and then i start to bring my form in. after 10 my head comes up.

[JJEB2]

u may be able to post it on rapidshare and then put the link up and we will just have to dl it ourselves

[buckeyefootball4]

if i post it, it will only be for a few mins

[JJEB2]

understandable

[buckeyefootball4]

damn

[buckeyefootball4]

lookin at the combine video now, it look like most of the guys there were close to the line, instead 1shoe length back.

[JJEB2]

lookin at the combine video now, it look like most of the guys there were close to the line, instead 1shoe length back.

there were guys who were on that second line which is no more then 5 inches

[buckeyefootball4]

there were guys who were on that second line which is no more then 5 inches

yeh im starting to look at my 1shoe length, im looking at the praisi combine video they teach 3-6in.

[JJEB2]

yo buckeye i just re read all the info for the regional combines and we have 5 hrs to warm up, height, weight, lift, SS, 40s and vert. so i would say 3 and a half hrs to actually do vert, bench, 40s and SSs and position drills which include half the guys at the combine bc its one on ones. that doesnt seem to bad at all.

[buckeyefootball4]

last yr they one vs one only lasted about 30-45mins at best.

[JJEB2]

thats straight then because you get 3 hrs to do 2 SSs, 2 40s, bench and a vert. that actually is really good if you think about it. there is two sessions as well. 7 am and 1230pm. so you have to think no more than 400 people will go to each regional one so say 200 people at each session. i think i wont have too much problems with fatigue

[buckeyefootball4]

it goes pretty fast, no rest at least the one in texas last yr.

[JJEB2]

yea i have been through similar processes at college where we did all these events in 2 hrs so i am used to it.

[buckeyefootball4]

kool, also u dont have to deal with the 110degree heat either thats a big difference.

[JJEB2]

kool, also u dont have to deal with the 110degree heat either thats a big difference.

yea no shit. it hit 80 here the other day and i was sweating my dick off. but ya'll are used to that weather.

[JJEB2]

i am an ILB as well forgot to mention dont want buckeye looking better than me. guy almost outweighs me and hes a wr hahah.

[JJEB2]

buckeye, let me ask ya something. when i do my flies i am not as fast as i am when i do a straight 20, 30 or 40. when i do my flies it seems i am not accelerating. when i get down in my stance and explode out i hit me top speed at 20 yards and i keep getting faster but not when i do flies. this always confused me

[buckeyefootball4]

buckeye, let me ask ya something. when i do my flies i am not as fast as i am when i do a straight 20, 30 or 40. when i do my flies it seems i am not accelerating. when i get down in my stance and explode out i hit me top speed at 20 yards and i keep getting faster but not when i do flies. this always confused me

flys are diff FIRST THING DONT GET DOWN INTO A 40STANCE USE A ROLL STANDING START. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WERE DOING FLYING 20 WITH A 20YD ACC ZONE, U WOULD START IN A ROLLING STANDING START AND DO A GRAD BUILD SO BY THE TIME YOU HIT THE 20 U R AT FULL TILT THEN FROM THERE JUST MAINTAIN DONT DONT TRY AND GO FASTER MAINTAIN AND HOLD FORM. THE LONGER THE ACC ZONE THE MORE GRAD UR BUILD CAN BE.

[JJEB2]

flys are diff FIRST THING DONT GET DOWN INTO A 40STANCE USE A ROLL STANDING START. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WERE DOING FLYING 20 WITH A 20YD ACC ZONE, U WOULD START IN A ROLLING STANDING START AND DO A GRAD BUILD SO BY THE TIME YOU HIT THE 20 U R AT FULL TILT THEN FROM THERE JUST MAINTAIN DONT DONT TRY AND GO FASTER MAINTAIN AND HOLD FORM. THE LONGER THE ACC ZONE THE MORE GRAD UR BUILD CAN BE.

oh ok. good explanation bc that is what i am doing and i didnt feel like i was faster. the people watching me said it looked like i was just strdiing it out. i start low on two feet and do the gradual build up. thanks

[buckeyefootball4]

had a guy run 1.33 -10yd 2.53- 20yd 4.47- 40yd he need major top speed work in only 3weeks - lol.

[JJEB2]

had a guy run 1.33 -10yd 2.53- 20yd 4.47- 40yd he need major top speed work in only 3weeks - lol.

his start is remarkable. he def needs top end. even his 10-20 is bad for a 1.33 start. that means he is on a 1.2 in 10 yards which isnt that great. his overall start to 20 is still good but in proportion to his his start is really bad. his start and 10-20 are only at a .13 difference. his 20-40 is 1.94 which is decent but not where he needs to be. this guy could be in the 4.3 easy. just work on his top end speed man. you know the deal so he should be straight.

[JJEB2]

i had a pretty good workout myself today. nothing timed but i felt my stride is really good and my form is good. starts were shaky at first bc i was sore form lifting on sat but after the adrenaline started to flow i was straight.

[JJEB2]

hard call. you have been doing flies and he must not be responding to it. i would say that the 50 and 60s would serve a prupose. he would be accelerating throughout the run but its longer than 40. he accelerates but not to the point that he needs to. his 40 is still good but he needs to increase throughout the whole run. what about flying 30s or 40s? he would be at max speed for the length that he is having problems with.

possibly chutes and if you have bungees that could help as well. but if not i would say fly 30s or the 50s and 60s.

what do u think?