Tren-Prop cycle questions-t3 or not t3

[piepiezzz]

cycle:

tren week 1-6 to 8 (100 mg EOD)
prop week 1- 14 (125 mg EOD)
winny week 6-12 (100 mg EOD)

Should I take T3 with the clen? I know it is a debated subject.

Also, what should I take for protection against aromitization. Is letro or A-dex better? I have Nolva and Clomid on hand for pct.

[goose]

Tren lowers your thyriod level,it also raises your prolactin,I recommend taking T3 25mcg along with your tren.

[SPIKE]

cycle:

tren week 1-6 to 8 (100 mg EOD)
prop week 1- 14 (125 mg EOD)
winny week 6-12 (100 mg EOD)

Should I take T3 with the clen? I know it is a debated subject.

Also, what should I take for protection against aromitization. Is letro or A-dex better? I have Nolva and Clomid on hand for pct.

OK, a few things here. first off, run the cycle like this:

tren week 1-8 (100 mg EOD)
prop week 1- 12 (125 mg EOD)
winny week 6-12.5 (50-100 mg ED)

Start PCT 3 days after last prop injection and the day after last Winny injection. I'd prefer to see both the Prop and Tren ED and the Winny is a must ED.

T3 and clen is not a debated subject as far as running them together. It is debated wether it is useful in cutting (and bulking for that matter) as it can break down LBM. As the O so wise Goose already stated, Tren will have an effect on natty throid output so I would run 12.5-25mcg ED while on the Tren. The clen can be cycled. Please dont ask about the Clen/T3 cycling methods out there. Too many threads on that already.

Why do you haev to worry about aromatization for? That Prop ? If anything I'd worry about the rise of Prolactin and progesterone type sides more then anything. Some B6 on hand would be nice.

Nolva and Clomid is fine for PCT. I'd get my hands on some HCG if I were you. Tren isnt exactly the easiest compound to recover from, hence running that test a few weeks longer.

Fheeeeeeeeeeeeeew I'm tired, I gotta hit the gym in a bit.

[SPIKE]

Any thoughts Pie?

[piepiezzz]

Jayhova...thanks for the advice. I will use a small doage of T3 as recommended. I won't be on clen because I am currently cycling clen(6-wk, benadryl wk 3&6) to get down to 7-8% BF before I hit the tren.

I have read that tren can cause "bitch tits" thus my concern and question about letro,A-dex. I will ask my source if he has any HCG, I know he does at times so I will try and get my hands on it. Do this instead of nolva/clomid or on top of???


Goose......you confirmed my toughts verbatim...thanks

[SPIKE]

I am currently cycling clen(6-wk, benadryl wk 3&6)

I"m curious to see how the benadryl is working for you. This is nioce b/c no one highjacked your thread and its nice and clean. You're lucky b/c you can personalize this thread for yourself as long is it doesnt get cluttered. New info is always appreciated though.

I have read that tren can cause "bitch tits" thus my concern and question about letro,A-dex. I will ask my source if he has any HCG, I know he does at times so I will try and get my hands on it. Do this instead of nolva/clomid or on top of???

Well you've read right buddy. Tren can cause gyno but i dont see it happend often. Better to be safe then sorry and have the proper ancilleries on hand before starting. Most cross their fingers and start the cycle without them hoping no adverse sides will occur. Hopefully not but then some of those same people post frantically asking what to do about their gyno.

I'd keep at least some B6 on hand. Its very inexpensive and can always be used in the future if not in this cycle. I'm not sure how prone you are to gyno.

Nolva and clomid for PCT, not throughout the cycle. DO NOT USE NOLVADEX THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE. If you werent using the Tren nolva could be an option but wont be in this run.

[IBdmfkr]

I see tren cause lactating more so than gyno, therefore I always take T3 @ 25mcg/day like goose stated and B6 at 200mg/day. At the dosage you're using you should be fine, but I'd run it ED if I were you because it's more effective and gives less sides.

[piepiezzz]

I will run ED, just not use to any injection sites other than quad, so I am kind of worried about that..


Not to sound stupid, but what is B6? You mean just the vitamin B6? So no letro or A-dex.........just B6 and T3 during cycle, and nolva/clomid pct(unless I can get my hands on HCG)

Prior cycles were all Deca/Test and no apparent gyno. But would prefer to be safe than sorry.


Jayhova........I start the benadryl tonight, so I will let you know ho I react.

[IBdmfkr]

You could use a low dosage of letro/L-dex during cycle but I don't think it's really necessary with the low dosages you are running, never hurts to have them on hand though just in case.
B6=vit. B6 yep.

[SPIKE]

You could use a low dosage of letro/L-dex during cycle but I don't think it's really necessary with the low dosages you are running, never hurts to have them on hand though just in case.
B6=vit. B6 yep.

You saved me the time in writing it BD. Pie, with your past experiences I'd have them on hand and use them if needed.

[piepiezzz]

Can I get away with one or the other, or do I need to buy both??? (letro, L-dex)

[J0E]

letro is fine no need for both.

[SPIKE]

letro is fine no need for both.

Correct, no need for both.