Oximetolona

[Antonio Vilhena]

Hi guys, I´m a 50 year old brazilian bodybuilder from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and I´ve been lifting weights for about 11 years, but only got started with steroids in the past 6-7 years. I´m 5´5" , weighting around 182 pounds (let´s say 15% bodyfat), following an old, but efective, Istvan Javorek´s training routine (M, W and F), witch is to say I train almost all bodyparts in a 90 minute workout, with 8 sets of 15 reps each @ 60-70% of my repmax. I´m using Humulin-R (10 iu) after my workout, with my protein and carbs (no shakes). I´m also using Oximetolon witch in Brazil appears under the commercial name of Hemogenin. The thing is that most recently the lab (Aventis) has changed its formula, and what seemed to work with 1-2 pills a day now is not doing the same. I´ve heard they took the alchool (?) off, and the most effective way to use it is to take it 12 hours before training. The lab literacture says (for medical use) the recomended dose, both for kids or adults, is 1-5 mg/kg of bodyweight a day, witch makes me realize I should be taking 8-10 pills a day. I´m also on Novaldex (20 mg/day) to skip gyno.
I´m sorry for my being so long, but I hope you understand it´s my very first thread, ever, and also the very first time I talk about this issue in English, witch might turn a little complicated for me if I give you wrong directions. I´m really concerned with my poor English. Please, go easy on your language posts. I might not know some expressions or names such as Tren... or Sus that, in Brazil, comes under the name of Durateston and carries 4 different esters in its formula.
So, witch woud be the best way for me to use Oximetolon with Humuli-R?

[BajanBastard]

Welcome to the site, so you are using the hemogenin (oxymetholone) alone?

[*Narkissos*]

Hi guys, I´m a 50 year old brazilian bodybuilder from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

First off.. welcome to the site.

I'm from Barbados

and I´ve been lifting weights for about 11 years, but only got started with steroids in the past 6-7 years.

What have you previous steroid cycles/courses looked like?

I´m 5´5" , weighting around 182 pounds (let´s say 15% bodyfat), following an old, but efective, Istvan Javorek´s training routine (M, W and F), witch is to say I train almost all bodyparts in a 90 minute workout, with 8 sets of 15 reps each @ 60-70% of my repmax.

Interesting.

I´m using Humulin-R (10 iu) after my workout, with my protein and carbs (no shakes).

You're taking humulin post-workout without fast-acting carbs?

Have you not had instances of low-blood sugar?

How long have you been using the insulin?

I´m also using Oximetolon witch in Brazil appears under the commercial name of Hemogenin.

Hemogenin Aventis 50mg= Anadrol-50

The thing is that most recently the lab (Aventis) has changed its formula, and what seemed to work with 1-2 pills a day now is not doing the same.

Has the concentration per tablet changed?

That should not be. Are you sure what you are getting is not fake?

most effective way to use it is to take it 12 hours before training.

I believe that's wrong.

I'd take it 1 hour before training.

The lab literacture says (for medical use) the recomended dose, both for kids or adults, is 1-5 mg/kg of bodyweight a day

Is this not for the treatment of anemia?.. not muscle building.

Our dosages differ from the 'therapeutic dosage'

witch makes me realize I should be taking 8-10 pills a day.

8-10? How many mg of the drug is there per tablet? 8-10 is much too much (unless the tabs are 5 ng tabs.. and Hemogenin is supposed to come in 50 mg-75 mg tablets).

I´m also on Novaldex (20 mg/day) to skip gyno.

Nolva won't help with this compound in my opinion. Taking it can't hurt but you'd be better off trying to find Letrozole (Femara)

I´m sorry for my being so long, but I hope you understand it´s my very first thread, ever, and also the very first time I talk about this issue in English, witch might turn a little complicated for me if I give you wrong directions. I´m really concerned with my poor English.

Don't worry about your English. It is better than some here who speak English natively

Please, go easy on your language posts. I might not know some expressions or names such as Tren... or Sus that, in Brazil, comes under the name of Durateston and carries 4 different esters in its formula.

ok

So, witch woud be the best way for me to use Oximetolon with Humuli-R?

It would be best for you to add an injectable with the Oximetolon and Humulin.

Testosterone.

Lay out your previous cycles and we will try to assist you

Thanks

Narkissos

[Antonio Vilhena]

Sure thing... I think you´re right. I´ll be starting cipionate (Sigma Pharma in Brazil) 200 mg (one shot) first week, moving up to 400 mg (split in 2 shots along thee week). Continue 400 mg (a week) for 2 more weeks and drop it to 200 mg to close it with Oxi and Humulin. Would that be ok for a mass cicle?

[Antonio Vilhena]

Along these past 6-7 years I´ve have mostly taken Deca, Deposteron (Cipionate) Durateston (Sustanon), Hemogenin, Winny V, Propionate, Equipoise and Clembuterol. Good news is all of these products are purchased in a regular drugstore - except for winny, equip and propionate that are bought in a vet drugstore. Witch is to say we never buy fake (I´ll sue their asses if so).
I´m a first timer with Humulin and as I said before I´m taking 10 iu after workout with my after workout meal that consists in portein and complex and simple carbs. ´Been doin´this for 2-3 weeks and I never felt any side efect or disconfort such as diziness or sweating... I guess I´m gonna move up to 12 iu to see what happens and go on till I find my limit (what you think?)
When I do Durateston (Sus) I never take more than 750 mg a week. Never do Ciponate more than 400 mg a week either or more than 400 mg of Deca. I´m really afraid of gyno and sometimes I can´t afford Nolva (too expensive) or Proviron to protect me. We don´t have Letrozole (Femara). After my terapies I like to go on a Clomid one just to set things to square one.
By now I´m sort of curious to go on ketogenic approach with Humulin. I know it´s dangerous, but I workout in the morning and take my shot right on. If I eat only lean meat I´ll surely accelerate my metabolism, but since I´m not going to sleep (gotta go to work) I think I can manage the my low blood instances with some candy bar in my pocket while I consume, let´s say, around 200-300 g of complex carbs a long the day till 5 PM. From that point on, only protein. What´d you say about that? Too risky?
The thinh is I want to gain more mass, but I don´t wanna turn into a meatloaf, if you know what I mean...
Liked your body in the photos... Are you IFBB back in your homecountry? By chance I work for IFBB Rio de Janeiro for about 6 years and know lot of athletes. We´ll be glad to host you the day you drop by. If you want to take a look at some of these guys, try my Blog at the following adress: http://antoniovilhena.multiply.com

[Antonio Vilhena]

Welcome to the site, so you are using the hemogenin (oxymetholone) alone?

Not exactly... I´ve been takin´as I said, before Humulin R (10 iu) for 2 weeks, after my workouts, but honestly I can´t see the difference. I´ve gainned some weight (8 lb), but I think I woulda made the same with hemogenin alone... Think I´m gonna move up to 12 iu and continue till I reach a disconfort zone (no side efect at all till now). What you say about this?

[BajanBastard]

I've used alot of insulin (humalin-R) before and to be honest i only 'feel' something from it at 15IU workout post with high simple sugar/whey protein intake. In about 1 week i start to feel a bit fuller and get a bit more energy in the gym, it's hard to really tell if it's working the effect is not as pounced as i thought it would be.

[Antonio Vilhena]

Thanks a lot for your opinion. I´ll follow my instincts and I´ll move up to 15 iu tomorrow. Tell you if something goes wrong or else. What if I start cipionate
(200-400 mg/week) for only 4 weeks to go with it? I´m lifting really heavy, specialy on chest press, squats and roman dead lifts, and back pull downs, with 8 sets of 15 reps each... I´m kind of tired of my body frame so I think it´s about time for me to go bigger and maybe I´ll experience a better shape refinement on the coming months. Would you go that way? Your photo reminds me some of my IFBB´s friends of Rio. You´re middle-weight aren´t ya?