Proper Dosage for 4-AD (ORAL)

[Mogamedogz]

I plan on running a stack of M1t (oral) and 4ad (oral) this summer. This is the first time that I have stacked M1t with 4-ad, and I am unsure of the proper dose to run ED. I have 200mg caps.

I have done other prohormones in the past. Including M1t at up to 30mg per day, for up to 5 weeks. Never really had many sides from it (or gains for that matter). I actually stacked it with 1ad (I know, its basically pointless), but I did see results with it.

Here is what I intend on running-

Week 1 -
20mg of M1t ed
1000mg of Milk thistle
??mg of 4ad

Week 2 -
20mg M1t ed
1000mg Milk thistle
??mg 4ad

Week 3 -
30mg M1t ed
1000mg Milk Thistle
??mg 4ad

Week 4 -
30mg M1t ed
1000mg Milk Thistle
??mg 4ad

Week 5 -
30mg M1t ed
1000mg Milk Thistle
??mg 4ad

Week 6-
20mg M1t ed
1000mg Milk Thistle
??mg 4ad

Then obviously I would do the proper PCT. Including Nolva, Clomid, Hawthornberry, and Bloodwork.

Can anyone help me with the dosage of 4-ad? Any help is appriciated.

thanks-

[Bryan2]

oral 4 ad is a WASTE youd need around 3000mg+ doses so see marginal results

transdermal is the way to go

[goose]

oral 4 ad is a WASTE youd need around 3000mg+ doses so see marginal results

transdermal is the way to go

What results can you expect with 4 AD at 3000mg each day? Thanks.

[Mogamedogz]

oral 4 ad is a WASTE youd need around 3000mg+ doses so see marginal results

transdermal is the way to go

Yeah...but Transdermal is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find. I have looked everywhere for Dermabolics...without any luck.

[Bryan2]

orally is basically pointless

but 3000mg orally will give you 22.5mgs of test base which does well for the beginning cycler.

everything taken orally is only absorbed 5%

trandermally is 15%

then AFTER its absorbed 15% of that turns into test.

However regular unconverted 4AD is said to be 95% as anabolic as test(and while I disagree with 95% it is still noticeably anabolic)

[Bryan2]

Yeah...but Transdermal is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find. I have looked everywhere for Dermabolics...without any luck.

Well it is an illegal steroid in the united states now!!!

If your willing to risk it just go for the real shit now.

[Mogamedogz]

Well it is an illegal steroid in the united states now!!!

If your willing to risk it just go for the real shit now.

I would like to. However, I just dont feel like I know enough about it, to do it the "right" way. I know the basics... I just dont understand "amps" and "Half lifes" and "CC's"... Im just not that smart. lol- And I REALLY dont trust myself enough to stick a needle in my ass cheek!

[Bryan2]

well keep reading and eventually you will gain enough knowledge

there is always transdermal test as well

[Mogamedogz]

well keep reading and eventually you will gain enough knowledge

there is always transdermal test as well

Really? They make transdermal Test?? Is it as good as an injectable?

[mwolffey]

Really? They make transdermal Test?? Is it as good as an injectable?

no it not nearly as good...its called andro gel i do belive

[cfiler]

You can make your own. Just take some 1-test powder, and use a transdermal ester. Look into the lab section. Lots of info there.

[Bryan2]

yes you make your own transdermal test

just get some test base powder and a trandermal carrier