Nolvadex or Ldex or both

[dimentia]

if you are using L-dex in a cycle do you need to use Nolvadex?

if you do feel the onset of gyno while using L-dex how much Nolvadex should you be taking?

[Samson7]

no, l dex should do the trick on cycle. Gyno is an estrogen related side, therefore if you are on l dex you will not get it since l dex is an AI.

[cmax]

if you are using L-dex in a cycle do you need to use Nolvadex?

It depends on what your cycle is and how much l-dex you are taking. L-dex does not protect you from gyno and does not stop the onset of gyno to the same degree as nolva.

If you're only take .5 mg of l-dex ED or EOD on cycle it be enough to protect you from estrogen related sides, but there are too many factors and you did not provide enough information for me to try and predict this...

Many people prefer to take nolva during the cycle to flood the receptors rather than l-dex to lower the overall estrogen levels. They say that l-dex can hinder gains (it may just reduce the water weight) so they prefer to take nolva on cycle instead.

Regardless of what you take on cycle you'll definitely still need the nolva for PCT.

if you do feel the onset of gyno while using L-dex how much Nolvadex should you be taking?

I would take 40 mg of Nolva for the first two days (until the symptoms subside) and then reduce the amount to 20 mg each day.

[BajanBastard]

It depends on what your cycle is and how much l-dex you are taking. L-dex does not protect you from gyno and does not stop the onset of gyno to the same degree as nolva..

BS

If you're only take .5 mg of l-dex ED or EOD on cycle it be enough to protect you from estrogen related sides, but there are too many factors and you did not provide enough information for me to try and predict this....

Exactly what 'factor come into play here?

Many people prefer to take nolva during the cycle to flood the receptors rather than l-dex to lower the overall estrogen levels. They say that l-dex can hinder gains (it may just reduce the water weight) so they prefer to take nolva on cycle instead..

True, although i always thought it was not the wisest thing to do.

Regardless of what you take on cycle you'll definitely still need the nolva for PCT..

Can't argue with that.

[cmax]

BS

I thought that nolva would flood the receptors and stop the onset of gyno much faster than l-dex could lower your total estrogen levels to stop the onset of gyno.

Doesn't nolva flood your receptors within hours (or days at the most), but l-dex takes several days to become effective?

Exactly what 'factor come into play here?

The factors are what his cycle was and how much l-dex he is taking. He did not tell me either of these things. So there is no way of knowing if the amount of l-dex he is taking will suffice.

[TheSentinal]

I am using Adex and it stops gyno - simple as that. I adjust the doseage according to my symptoms. I save clomid/Nolva for PCT. AI's kick butt.

[dimentia]

I thought that nolva would flood the receptors and stop the onset of gyno much faster than l-dex could lower your total estrogen levels to stop the onset of gyno.

Doesn't nolva flood your receptors within hours (or days at the most), but l-dex takes several days to become effective?



The factors are what his cycle was and how much l-dex he is taking. He did not tell me either of these things. So there is no way of knowing if the amount of l-dex he is taking will suffice.

This is my first cycle of test e 500mg/week taking 250mg monday and thursday. I'm taking .25mg of ldex everyday and 2.5mg of proscar ed. since this is my first cycle I just want to take it easy and see how I react. I have plenty of nolva and clomid for PCT. I'd like to save the nolva for PCT if possible so I have enough for a 2nd cycle.

[O.M.E.G.A]

best route for moderate cycles:

Adex at 1 mg a day
Nolva at 10 mgs a day

PCT keep the same but maybe up Nolva to 20 mgs
add Clomid at 50 mgs a day

run HCG at 2000ius every 3rd or 4th day for 4 shots after last shot of long acting ester

[O.M.E.G.A]

also for that cycle you may not need proscar

[dimentia]

well I don't have adex and being that I moved across the country I don't have any sources either. I have ldex and nolva. I do have some letro from one of the sponsers here but to be honest I'm not sure I trust it. if anybody else here has experience with it let me know your thoughts but I wasn't to pleased with one of their other products. seemed underdosed very underdosed to me so I'm not sure I trust the letro if I happen to suffer from gyno.

[O.M.E.G.A]

Ldex IS Arimadex

[marcus300]

c bino where are you??

Tell em!!

[Seattle Junk]

Nolva + Clomid in PCT works the best for me.

[Bigun]

also for that cycle you may not need proscar

What if the Proscar is for prostrate or anti DHT reasons?

[TheSentinal]

L-dex does not protect you from gyno and does not stop the onset of gyno to the same degree as nolva.

This is simply not true. Adex and Ldex are highly effective at preventing the development of gyno while on cycle. Regardless of personal preference, AI's are a better choice while on if you are prone to gyno.

[O.M.E.G.A]

What if the Proscar is for prostrate or anti DHT reasons?

sure thats fine

but people should front load it since its half life is 5 weeks, plus he is also taking too much of it

[dimentia]

how much of it should I be taking? I know that's what the prescription stregnth is if you are taking it for hair loss reasons.

[dimentia]

bump

[O.M.E.G.A]

.5 ed