Running Nolva and L-dex with first cycle

[kihop]

Approaching my first cycle soon so I have some newbie question, please bear with me.
The newbie starters cycle guide recommends running Nolva and L-dex along with test.

Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Is this common or is this just taking utmost precautions? I ask because the majority of cycles I've read about will use a nolva/clomid combo for PCT but other than that, they are mainly kept on hand just in case of gyno symptoms appearing during cycle.

The recommended pct for this cycle is:
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

So L-dex should be kept at a consistent dose during & post cycle while nolva gets a slight increase in dosage post cycle, is this typical protocal for a simple cycle of 500 mg of Test Enan per week? How would a DHT inhibitor like Finasteride be incorporated into this?

Also, as an extra precaution should I also have letro on hand? Could this be run in a small dosage during the cycle to cut down on water retention? Or am I looking into too many chemicals and should just stick with the basic nolva/clomid combo?

Thanks for any help.

[kihop]

bump for help please

[abstrack]

The nolva and l-dex are just fine. I would run the nolva 3 weeks past the test and I would taper down the dosage as you come out of pct to 10mg and then quit. No need for anything else (Letro) IMO. I wouldnt take finastride unless you are prone to MPB. Keeping the l-dex at the dose you have it at is just fine.

[Othello]

Hi All,

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't running Nolva (Tamoxifen) and L-dex (Arimidex) something of an overkill???

[guest589745]

I saw nark say "hell no" to the idea of taking ldex/nolva together......thats gotta be good for something.

[kihop]

Hi All,

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't running Nolva (Tamoxifen) and L-dex (Arimidex) something of an overkill???

I guess this kind of sums things up...Am I being too precautious, or is there such thing?

[Othello]

Actually if you look at the leaflet that comes with the Arimidex box, it clearly statres that Arimidex should not be taken with Tamoxifen...

[kihop]

So it's best to run Nolva by itself while on the cycle rather than Nolva & L-dex together? I keep hearing different opinions.

[Swifto]

Actually if you look at the leaflet that comes with the Arimidex box, it clearly statres that Arimidex should not be taken with Tamoxifen...

Take one or the other IMO.

Nolva in full clinical doses reduces anastrozol plasma levels by 27%. So if you run it, run more than normal.

[timtim]

you'll have no gains whatsoever if you run both with 500mg test. you could probably get by with nothing for the first few weeks. if you start to notice bloat, go with .5mg ldex eod. if you need more, go to ed with the ldex.

i always add my ldex in around week 5 or 6 with test (except prop) because its around this time when i notice alittle water retention. .5 eod works very well.