Advice on this cycle? Beginner here

[tommy0677]

Here is what I plan on doing for my first cycle after a lot of reading and thought I'd post for some friendly input and advice on it.

12 week cycle of:
Test E 500mg/weekly
EQ 400mg/weekly
D-bol 50mg/daily
Proviron 25mg/daily
Nolva 10mg/daily

Week 13:
Nolva 40mg/daily
Clomid 100mg/daily

Week 14:
Nolva 30mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

Week 15:
Nolva 20mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

Thanks in advance for any and all thoughts.

[IBdmfkr]

What's your current stats and previous cycle experience?

[tommy0677]

I'm 29, 6'4" and weighing in about 280-5lbs, down from 335lbs last spring, with a lot of hard work and diet. Recently blown out L5&6 in lower back during fire & rescue training, which caused the 335lbs from 245-lbs. Been following a BFL type diet and for a routine using the Heavy Duty 2 routines since late July last year. Blood work is good ( just did annual medical) and no previous cycle experience.

[one8nine]

12 weeks of dbol is liver suicide

[HORSE~]

If this is your first cycle I would sugest A test only cycle.

Try reading this post newbie's starter pack by: Kale

Hope this help's

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

wow too much for first, i think

i am gonna do a first. i am 6'5 240. 8-9%bf. i think i am gunna do 500mg test e a week for 10-12 weeks. this will put on like 20lbs hopefully.

too many chemicals, you wont gain in the future.


do 2-3 test only cycles, then add a 2nd anabolic and do 2 cycles of that upping the dose. then another do that 2-3 tiems.


keep your body new to things

[marcus300]

To many compounds for first cycle, just stick with the basic 500mg of test per kw for 10-12 wks and see how you react to this, if you have a good base and the diet is in order the gains will be good, if you search around this site there are plenty of posts regarding first time cycles.

[tommy0677]

Wow! Thanks for the fast response and advice guys. I guess I was jumping the gun and trying to learn too fast about a first cycle. I may stick with the test e & eq stack. Is proviron a good anti-estrogen to be using or will the nolva and clomid be good enough? What is a good cycle time for the d-bol for future reference? I'll just cut that out of this cycle and save what I have for the future.

[marcus300]

Test only for first cycle, no need for any other compounds, please re-read my earlier post.

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

.25mg adex or liquidex a day for whole cycle

pct
1-2 nolva 40mg a day
2-6 clomid and nolva


might be too olong . but just to make sure.

[tommy0677]

Thanks Marcus. I'm just a slow typer and didn't catch your post before I made my last one. I've been reading a lot of posts though where people recommend a test + eq stack for beginners along with the nolva and clomid for anti-est. So a test E only cycle would be best with no other compounds like nolva would be good?

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

no use nolva. you still need pct.

pct
week1 40mg nolva/day
week2 40mg nolva a day
week3 40mg nolva, 100mg clomid/day
week4 20mg nolva, 50mg clomid/day
week5 20mg nolva, 50mg clomid/day
week6 20mg nolva/ day

keep workouts hard as all hell. eat at least 2g pr per lb, and like 4000-5000 cals minimum. rest well. be safe. report back.

[Bigmax]

pct sounds ok...rethink the cycle and stick to one compound bro....you'll be better off.That way you know how your body responded for that first one.

[urbanbody]

12 weeks of dbol is liver suicide

Yep do alittle more research on your orals

[tommy0677]

Thanks for all the great advice guys. I'll try out a 12 week cycle of Test E and nolva + clomid for PCT. So, this cycle should look something like this?

Weeks 1-12
Test E 500mg/week
Nolva 10mg/daily

Week 13:
Nolva 40mg/daily
Clomid 100mg/daily

Week 14:
Nolva 30mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

Week 15:
Nolva 20mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

I'm glad there are forums out there for beginners like me. I'm sure a lot of people would end up screwing their bodies up with out all the great insightful people on this forum. Thanks for all the input and advice again people.

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

look decent. keep cals high, and keep em high after you come off, and keep workouts intesnse so you can keep what u earned.

[tommy0677]

Thanks to everyone who posted again. Saved me some cash and probably some headaches. Once I fire it up on this cycle, I'll be sure to post updates and some B&A pics too.

[IBdmfkr]

Areed, test only would be all you need. Goodluck and keep us posted.

[cfiler]

Thanks for all the great advice guys. I'll try out a 12 week cycle of Test E and nolva + clomid for PCT. So, this cycle should look something like this?

Weeks 1-12
Test E 500mg/week
Nolva 10mg/daily

Week 13:
Nolva 40mg/daily
Clomid 100mg/daily

Week 14:
Nolva 30mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

Week 15:
Nolva 20mg/daily
Clomid 50mg/daily

I'm glad there are forums out there for beginners like me. I'm sure a lot of people would end up screwing their bodies up with out all the great insightful people on this forum. Thanks for all the input and advice again people.

Looks better. Try for 10 weeks, and if you still want to continue, then continue on for another two weeks.

[Ufa]

Test only for first cycle. No exceptions.

[tommy0677]

Hey guys,

Had some problems with my supplier, but back on track for my first cycle. I have one final question. With the Nolva, is it okay to take 20mg EOD while on cycle instead of ED? I was only able to get 20mg tabs of the Nolva and remember reading somewhere that it's no good to split Nolva tabs or any tabs for that matter because of dosage problems.

[IBdmfkr]

get a pill cutter, they are extremely cheap.. spliting tabs is fine.. do 10mg/day, honestly if you're only doing 250-500mg/wk of test Nolva usually isn't necessary. But whatever.

[YZFR1Tim]

I am starting my first cycle of test 500 and eq

[HORSE~]

I am starting my first cycle of test 500 and eq

Bro please dont just jump on someone else's thread and post this

If you have a qeustion about your cycle start your own thread

If this is your first cycle it should be a test only cycle but like I said make your own thread and will help you all we can

[Bigmax]

Horse is right bro.....

[IBdmfkr]