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    Hcg And Cycle

    I want to use hcg in my cycle ,at what stage should i use it and at what dose should it be ran...
    cycle looks like this.
    test e @ 500mg,s ew for 14 weeks
    deca @ 400mg,s ew for 10 weeks

    running nolva toughout cycle @ 10 mgs ed
    pct ..clomid days 1/5 100mgs
    days 5/ 20 50mgs ed
    days20/30 20mgs ed

    nolva 30 mgs days 1/30

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    Anyone

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    start taking the last week of your cycle at 500iu's ed for 2-3 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by layinglow
    start taking the last week of your cycle at 500iu's ed for 2-3 weeks
    THANKS

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    Quote Originally Posted by layinglow
    start taking the last week of your cycle at 500iu's ed for 2-3 weeks
    HCG isn't suppose to be ran at the same times as Clomid, and if he starts taking it at the end of his cycle for 2-3 weeks that isn't gonna work?Wouldn't it be better for him to start taking HCG after his last test E shot? Because after his last test E shot he has to wait 14 days anyways before starting HCG, so i think it would be best to run the HCG within that period, and stop the HCG 3 days before you start your clomid therapy. I'm no expert by any means with HCG, and have no experience with it, but i'm also planning on running it for 1 or 2 weeks for my next cycle, and thats how i plan on doing it. Someone correct me if thats a bad way to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoxer23
    HCG isn't suppose to be ran at the same times as Clomid, and if he starts taking it at the end of his cycle for 2-3 weeks that isn't gonna work?Wouldn't it be better for him to start taking HCG after his last test E shot? Because after his last test E shot he has to wait 14 days anyways before starting HCG, so i think it would be best to run the HCG within that period, and stop the HCG 3 days before you start your clomid therapy. I'm no expert by any means with HCG, and have no experience with it, but i'm also planning on running it for 1 or 2 weeks for my next cycle, and thats how i plan on doing it. Someone correct me if thats a bad way to do it.
    Anyone got any comments on this

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    Goodluck with your cycle bro... u are gona be massive after you finish it
    Cheerz

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    Im taking HCG 1 week after my last test e shot @ 500iu ED for 10 days. Then Ill start my pct as normal 1 week later. (Im running a similar cycle to yours). Im not sure there is a definitive answer bro but taking HCG during the cycle will keep your test levels high and reduce the feminizing effects of estrogen, whilst taking HCG after a cycle will increase the production of testosterone. Whichever is the best solution,,,,I have no idea, just what suits the individual!!!!??? Read the thread submitted by Pinnacle in the pct forum, Interesting read. Good luck bro

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    im in my 3rd week of hcg i started it 21 days after the last shot of deca. also i have been using redkat an clomid. My doc said this

    When you are on any type of testosterone treatment is HIGHLY recommended that you also use HCG Chorionic Gonadotropin 10,000 iu 10ml. This will help bring your own natural testosterone back to normal. You would administer this beginning the last week of your testosterone regimen. Suggested use would be to use 2 cc’s / equiv. to (2,000iu’s) every fifth day. Example: if you are on an 8 week regimen, you would start on the 8th week, doing 1 injection every 5th day for about 2-3weeks This is imperative to close the gap at the end of your treatment. Many people skip this and see there gains lost!!!.
    The last item that was recommended is a product called Clomid (Clomiphene Citrate). This will help bring ALL YOUR LEVELS back to normal at “MID” and at the “END” of you cycle, closing the unwanted gap most people do not for see. It does this by elevating endogenous testosterone which is the body’s own testosterone. EX: for “MID” cycle in your fifth (5th) week. Take two pills a day for five (5) days (1 in Morn and 1 @ Night). This will help stimulate the release of more Gonadotropin from the pituitary gland. EX: at the “END” of your cycle, take two pills a day for five (5) days (1 in Morn and 1 @ Night) starting the day after your third (3rd) injection of HCG, After taking two (2) pills decrease to ONLY 1 pill a day for the next last five days.
    A closer look:
    *5th week, Mon-Fri Take two pills a day for five (5) days (1 in Morn and 1 @ Night)
    *8th week/ last injection of testosterone / START HCG - 2 CC’S every fifth day
    Day2
    Day3
    Day4
    Day5 – 2 CC’S of HCG
    Day6
    Day7
    Day8
    Day9
    Day10 – 2 CC’S of HCG
    Day11/ 2 pills of Clomid
    Day12/ 2 pills of Clomid
    Day13/ 2 pills of Clomid
    Day14/ 2 pills of Clomid
    Day15 – 2 CC’S of HCG/ 2 pills of Clomid
    Day16/ 1 pill of Clomid
    Day17/ 1 pill of Clomid
    Day18/ 1 pill of Clomid
    Day19/ 1 pill of Clomid
    Day20 – 2 CC’S of HCG / 1 pill of Clomid



    but i didnt do that I thought hes just a doctor what does he know!
    In retro spect i probobly should have but I did a lot of research on this forum and used what these guys recomended
    if i were you i would do alot more research on hcg on this website
    just my $0.02

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    This hormone is not a natural male hormone but mimics the natural hormone LH (Luetinising Hormone) almost identically. This LH stimulates the production of testosterone by the testis in males. Thus HCG sends the same message and results in increased testosterone production by the testis due to HCG’s effect on the leydig cells of the testis.
    Athletes use HCG to increase the body’s own natural production of testosterone which is often depressed by long term steroid use. Also when steroids are used in high dosages they can cause false signals to the hypothalamus that results in a depressed signal to the testicles. Over a period of weeks of this depressed signal the testicles ability to respond to any signal from the pituitary becomes very weak, which results in testicular atrophy. To avoid this athletes will use HCG to keep an artificial signal going to the testis and preventing testicular atrophy. When administered, HGC raises serum testosterone very quickly. A rise in testosterone first appears in about two hours after injecting HCG. The second peak occurs about two to four days later.
    HCG therapy has been found to be very effective in the prevention of testicular atrophy and to use the body’s own biochemical stimulating mechanisms to increase plasma testosterone level during training. Some steroid users find that they have some of their best strength and size gains while using HCG in conjunction with the steroids. This may wee be due to the facts that the body has high level of natural androgens as well as the artificial steroid hormones at that time.
    The optimal dosage for an athlete using HCG has never been established, but it is thought that a single shot of 1000 to 2000 IU per week will get the desired results.
    So bro I would suggest you use HCG every fourth week of your cycle for one week shot @ 500iu EOD that will keep your testies working and test won't shut you down as much therefore when you finish your cycle Your PCT will work quicker, I have tried it before and it worked good, that's my opinion. Cheers
    Last edited by aboulaly; 06-24-2006 at 06:48 AM.

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    ya i will likely take it every 4th or 5th week during my cycle.

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