How good is Arimidex ? Can i do Deca + Test E with NO BLOAT ?

[needbigguns]

How good is Arimidex? Im now pritty cut up for summer at 10% body fat with all my abs showing, can i do Dbol Test E and Deca with Arimidex and Nolvadex and still stay lean and cut without getting bloated from the test deca and dbol

- im prone to holding water in my face which i do not want to have so im wondering how effective is Arimidex, i can also get hold of Proviron - what should i run in terms of AI's and anti E's to get minimal bloat and at what dosage...

[KBZ]

bump, lol, same cycle here, same question, exact same situation lol.

[one8nine]

i just made a thread like this a few days ago (but i have halo instead of d-bol) and also i went through searches and it seems like letro is the STRONGEST and looks best on paper but i had a lot of people say to me and i real a lot that armidex is the best for bloat

[shortie]

Letro is the strongest, but ldex will do a very effective job of keeping off the bloat and inhibiting gyno with no estrogen rebound when you stop taking it. Forget the nolva for that cycle though bigguns-nolva will stimulate the PGR and make you more prone to prolactin sides from the deca.

[G-1000]

If you are prone to water bloat you are going to haole some not mater what. But letro and l-dex would be the best choice. You can cut back on most if im sure.

[cfiler]

Letro is best.

[KBZ]

k so if one were to run a test for 12 week, deca for 12 week, dbol for 5 and then run winny weeks 8-14 lets say, would one take nolva, ldex and letro all together for the least amount of bloat?
ldex and letro for bloat and nolva for estrogen?
If this is correct what dosing would you run?
thanks

[mister.fantastic]

Letro is best.

I agree. I've had succes with both, but i prefer letro not only bacause its a newer science, but my lumps sucked right up and tight using it both times.

[cutting_king]

k so if one were to run a test for 12 week, deca for 12 week, dbol for 5 and then run winny weeks 8-14 lets say, would one take nolva, ldex and letro all together for the least amount of bloat?
ldex and letro for bloat and nolva for estrogen?
If this is correct what dosing would you run?
thanks

please dont take all 3 at once. waste of money. forget nolva altogether IMO. letro or arimidex for estrogen and bloat. arimidex is a better choice because there is no estrogen rebound when you come off it like there is with letro and you can also run arimidex all the way through pct so you don't have to worry about switching up what your using

[Pinnacle]

Letro is best.

Have to disagree, not with just you,but everyone saying letro is best.AROMASIN IS BEST...hands down.Letro sucks..it's pushed on this board cause Lion nutrition pushes it down everyones throat.

~Pinnacle~

[cutting_king]

Have to disagree, not with just you,but everyone saying letro is best.AROMASIN IS BEST...hands down.Letro sucks..it's pushed on this board cause Lion nutrition pushes it down everyones throat.

~Pinnacle~

hey pinn, could you give some info on why Aromasin over arimidex. lion stocks both now anyway but Aromasin is $25 more expensive if i remember rightly and i just wondered what the advantage would be and if it would be worth the extra $

[Seattle Junk]

I prefer l-dex (armidex) for preventing bloat. Once bloat shows up start taking 1mg of l-dex for a few days then go down to .50mgs for the rest of your cycle. Gets rid of the water in a few days.

[ShnouzedUp]

Keep a strict diet, run ldex .5ml ed.... i always have high pro, low carb, low fat diets and i always stay lean. i ran dbol/test c/deca the first part of my cycle and never lost my abs... all in the diet.

[mister.fantastic]

Have to disagree, not with just you,but everyone saying letro is best.AROMASIN IS BEST...hands down.Letro sucks..it's pushed on this board cause Lion nutrition pushes it down everyones throat.

~Pinnacle~

I've never used aromasin, so i can't really comment on that, although from what i've research it is quite the remarkable compound. But saying that letro sucks?? i very much have to disagree with you on that one pinn

[Swifto]

From my research Aromasin seems to be the AI of choice at the moment for me. All you have to do is read the Profile on it in the Steroid Profiles Forum.

- Reduces estrogen by upto 85%
- Its an SAI.
- It doesnt lower estrogen low enough to compromise ones CNS/joints.

Just read the Profile in full.

[ShnouzedUp]

i wouldn't say letro sucks. and the ldex works great

[Swifto]

Some claim AI's work best at reducing water retention, other's claim SERM's work well. It would be logical, IMO, to use both then. Combine an effective AI/SERM. Aromasin 25mg/ED with Nolva 20mg/ED would be my choice.

[needbigguns]

So which should i get then Letro or Arimidex ? Im sure i read earlyer that Arimidex does nothing for bloat from Dbol... Is this true ?

[LatinoPR]

How good is Arimidex? Im now pritty cut up for summer at 10% body fat with all my abs showing, can i do Dbol Test E and Deca with Arimidex and Nolvadex and still stay lean and cut without getting bloated from the test deca and dbol

- im prone to holding water in my face which i do not want to have so im wondering how effective is Arimidex, i can also get hold of Proviron - what should i run in terms of AI's and anti E's to get minimal bloat and at what dosage...

.....arimidex .25 mg/day or .5mg eod...





LPR.

[Ufa]

Almost impossible to describe. You gotta experience it first hand.
I was impressed with arimidex.

[Anon Poster]

Have to disagree, not with just you,but everyone saying letro is best.AROMASIN IS BEST...hands down.Letro sucks..it's pushed on this board cause Lion nutrition pushes it down everyones throat.

~Pinnacle~

It's also en vogue at the moment due to a study showing it possesses the ability to reverse pre-existing gyno. However, it can inhibit sex drive...haven't heard of the others doing that.

[energizer bunny]

Im using Arimedex and proviron on cycle and Nolva and Aromasin on PCT. i might run the Proviron on PCT aswell.

[Othello]

Personally I'm an Arimidex fan myself...used it in my current cycle...after kick starting with dbol for first 4 weeks, and frontloading with 1.5g of test E, I had some serious water bloat problems on week 5...I took 1mg ED for 4 days, then went off to take 1mg EOD. ( I wanted to do .5 ED but splitting the tablets turned out to be way too messy for me...plus given the half life of Adex, I thought what the heck anyways...both ways are fine). Must say the bloat subsidised in about 6 or 7 days...I'm currently combining Adex with Proviron and I must admit results are great...

By Far Arimidex one of the most expensive drugs used during a cycle over here in Lebanon...its like a tablet of Adex costs like 17 times as much as a tablet of Proviron!!!!!and about 8 times that of Nolvadex!!!!!!its supposed to be a drug that fights breast cancer (you should see the faces on some pharmacists when I walk in and buy a box--their like who is it for???) so I guess thats y the price is so high...but then when it comes to one's body, I say never mess around what u put in it...

[Pinnacle]

I've never used aromasin, so i can't really comment on that, although from what i've research it is quite the remarkable compound. But saying that letro sucks?? i very much have to disagree with you on that one pinn

You can disagree all you want.Does letro lower SHBG levels?NO..Do you get an estrogen rebound effect from Aromasin?NO..Letro you do...the list is endless with the negetives with letro.Do as you want though as I could really careless what you or anyone uses for that matter.


LETRO SUCKS!!!!


~Pinnacle~

[shortie]

No, Pinnacle, don't hold back, let us know how you really feel about letro. J/K

[IBdmfkr]

I recently used aromasin with a combination of drugs, one being Drol and was extremely impressed with the results (my diet at the time was less than perfect also).. I ran it at 25mg/day to start which seemed a bit much because of libido sides etc.. so I dropped it to 25mgEOD with much better luck. Deff run it again, haven't ran letro so I can't compare..

[KBZ]

You can disagree all you want.Does letro lower SHBG levels?NO..Do you get an estrogen rebound effect from Aromasin?NO..Letro you do...the list is endless with the negetives with letro.Do as you want though as I could really careless what you or anyone uses for that matter.


LETRO SUCKS!!!!


~Pinnacle~

k, so I've heard letro has a bad rebound.... but is it okay to run ed at a low dose with L-dex on a 15 week cycle? And with letro do you stop once you start pct? and how hard of a rebound is it?
anyone?

[Pinnacle]

k, so I've heard letro has a bad rebound.... but is it okay to run ed at a low dose with L-dex on a 15 week cycle? And with letro do you stop once you start pct? and how hard of a rebound is it?
anyone?

No!!You don't run ldex with letro.Your estrogen levels will be nothing at all,and your sex drive will be nonexistant.Not to mention sore,dry joints(sore ,dry joint=fvk you letro!!)

Def stop letro at PCT,then switch to adex


As for rebound effect,you'll have to experiment and see for yourself (if you actually run letro).Adex is better,and aromasin is the BEST.Reason I say adex is because it doesn't totally suppress estrogen.You need some as estrogen is somewhat anabolic in a sense.Letro doesn't offer that among other things.

~Pinnacle~

[znak]

LETRO SUCKS!!!!


~Pinnacle~

Pinny, could you tell us how you really feel? Lot of fuzz on that.

[branch]

im currently runninga similar cycle without the bol, 400mg deca 600mg test e. and everyone has told me hcg is def necessary waht do u think?

and heres what ive been sugggested to use for pct:
(i have acess to just bout every pct necessary)

hcg 5000iu
nolva
clomid 100 50 mg tabs
proviron 40 25mg tabs

u think all this is necessary, cause im kinda strapped for cash at the moment?

is the proviron necessary? or go with adex?

do i really need the hcg if im gettin the clomid to get my balls back?

thanks

[needbigguns]

my question is, if i am allready bloated say 3 weeks into a cycle and have not been using Adex from the start...If i start using Adex - will it remove all the bloat - or just stop me getting FURTHER bloated...

[shortie]

my question is, if i am allready bloated say 3 weeks into a cycle and have not been using Adex from the start...If i start using Adex - will it remove all the bloat - or just stop me getting FURTHER bloated...

Bloat is est related water retention, so simply eliminate the estrogen and the bloat should go bye bye. Go ahead and start it at anytime and it should eliminate the bloat, good experiment really, see how good a stuff you get.

[Liftnainez]

anybody who used adex and aromasin want to give their opinion? Which worked better?

[needbigguns]

So like nolvadex is an anti estrogen - which would stop any further estrogen building but not get rid of existing estrogen...right ? and i know arimidex is an AI - does that mean it can get rid of existing estrogen as well as stopping more being made ?

[shortie]

Nolva is a SERM, does not lower estrogen levels, simply blocks it from binding to a E receptor. Ldex is an AI, stops the production of Estrogen through the Aromatase enzyme, does not eliminate existing estrogen though. Estrogen is metabolized through the body fairly quickly so existing levels will not be a major issue, just block the production of new est and you should see results in a few weeks or less.

[crazyhorse666]

wow lots of views

[needbigguns]

so back to my point...will it eliminate existing bloat and FAT FACE within a few days of using it (arimidex) - or will i still have FAT FACE but it just not get any better or worse once i start arimidex treatment

[boxingbean]

ok...now that evrybody got their opinions...sorry eheh, how did anyone answere his ? on how to incorporate it all together...still awaitin...!!!

[needbigguns]

ok...now that evrybody got their opinions...sorry eheh, how did anyone answere his ? on how to incorporate it all together...still awaitin...!!!

I dont seam to be getting anywhere boxingbean lol...

Once Again :

will it eliminate existing bloat and FAT FACE within a few days of using it (arimidex) - or will i still have FAT FACE but it just not get any better or worse once i start arimidex treatment

[boxingbean]