!Anavar at 18!

[nba2005uk]

Hey guys, please dont curse me for asking this cos i really wanna no what the effects would be. i know a few people that are really thinking about taking the closest thing possible to steroids, or even steroids for the matter. ive done some research and the best and mildest roid i found is 'anavar'. i read it doesnt need such a strong PCT as other roids, and it was even used to children with growth delays. i no 18 is still too young, but if an 18 yr old was to take this at a low dose of say 15mg up to 25mg for about 3-4 weeks, what do you think the positive and negative effects would be? really appreciate it thanks!

[*Alex*]

whats the reason you wnat to take anavar at all? p.s anavar is not a mild roid what so ever. its as real as it gets.

[marcus300]

You dont need anything just take advantage of your natural hormones and train and eat, you dont need anything mild or heavier just go natural and build a solid base by food/training,

[perfectbeast2001]

Welcome to AR mate.
at that dose for that length of time i don't think you will get any results at all. If you can't make gains without gear at 18 then something is very wrong with either your diet or training or both.

[skipp]

I don't think that's a good idea, just because you will shut down your HPTA and notice little results. IMO wait.

If you must do something to 'help' you, just take some nolva.. It's shown it can raise natty T levels up to 150% with 10mg (not point in taking more, it doesn't raise them more)

[Danbrooks2k]

add 200 grams worth of protien shakes to your diet every day instead...

no side effects and at 18 it will make you grow better...

[SMAN12b]

WELCOME TO AR.


No one here will tell you it is OK for you to do ANY AAS at 18 no matter how mild it is. It will still shut down your natural hormone levels, and and 18 you really really really dont' want to be screwing with your natural hormones !!!

If it was OK, we would be the firs to tell you to go for it!! We jsut want you to be safe and think of the long term.
As Marcus said, you can make incredible gains right NOW using your naturally high hormone levels and jsut eating and training correctly. WHICH is the most important part of any successful AAS cycle. If you are not eating correctly to grow, and training correctly to break the musles down the right way, it won't matter what AAS you take, it will be wasted,.

So I suggest getting the diet and training in line for the next 3-4 years before ever touching any AAS. You will definetly thank us for it later!!! I PROMISE !!

[C_Bino]

AAS are AAS man, its not as simple as tryin to find a milkd one and thinkin it will be ok at a young age. It just doesnt work like that or everyone would be doing it man.

To me its making an excuse saying its mild...like hey I wanna shoot someone, I think I will use a 9mm and not a shotgun...you know, its more mild.

AAS is AAS, you are still playing with your bodies natural hormone production at a young age. Dont do it.

[nba2005uk]

does anybody else think nolva by itself would give me any type of gains? i heard this from somebody else in my health shop in my local town!

[SMAN12b]

does anybody else think nolva by itself would give me any type of gains? i heard this from somebody else in my health shop in my local town!

Now your just jerking with us right????....thats a funny one....lolol

[perfectbeast2001]

I dont think it will help mate. plus it has sides just like all drugs.

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

hahha this kid is not thinking Nolva like Tamoxifen.. hes thinking that NOLVEDEX shit they sell at Vitamin World and GNC...

I wouldnt worry about AAS at this point.. i mean granted I started cycling at 20.. I atleats had been researching for years on it. Dont make a mistake and end up being that kid 20/20 tlaks about that makes my mom shun me

[Danbrooks2k]

no nolva wont do crap... listen to us on this one...

creatine, protien, vitamins, 6 meals a day, healthy diet, plenty of water, lots of rest, and train hard but train smart...

do all that for a few years and when at 23 you finally juice it will work like magic...

[nba2005uk]

i never said nolvedex did i. i sed a guy in my health shop told me that he got good gains from it, i didnt say they sold it in that certain shop. im talking about real nolva used for PCTs after a cycle!

[Hellmaskbanned]

no nolva wont do crap... listen to us on this one...

creatine, protien, vitamins, 6 meals a day, healthy diet, plenty of water, lots of rest, and train hard but train smart...
do all that for a few years and when at 23 you finally juice it will work like magic...

I agree on the red.


I don't agree how it's god awfly wrong for someone to use aas at 18 but when he's 23 it's all of a sudden OK. Sides are apparent for all ages.

If you have no TRUE reason to cycle no one should use no matter what age.IMO

[biggdav]

Build up on your core strength at your age-deadlifts,squats,bench,bent over rows etc. make most of you natural testosterone. Forget AAS! Would everyone agree?

[MattY_D]

Build up on your core strength at your age-deadlifts,squats,bench,bent over rows etc. make most of you natural testosterone. Forget AAS! Would everyone agree?

Yep,

you'd be amazed with what you can accomplish just with your diet and workout regiment in order

[Tank75]

i was told the same information you've heard above when I was 18 too. I decided to not take any AAS and waited for another 4 years until I was 22. I'm glad I did because I grew naturally, learned a lot more, and also grew another 2 inches I wasn't expecting to grow. If you start using AAS now, it will seal the growth plates in your bones and you probably still have a few years left of growing/maturing to do.

Through hard work, diet, and rest you can accomplish great things. I know people that have done a few cycles already and have nothing to show for it because they didn't take the time to get their act together.

Also, from what I've heard, that short of a cycle (4 weeks) would probably yield no real results except your wallet will be a great deal lighter.

Remember, there can be great strength in patience.
Best of Luck,
-Tank75

[powerliftmike]

Your age aside, I dont a var only cycle will do much good for ya. it tends to make ppl really sleepy and tired when used alone..so your training will suffer.

[GGallin]

I am 23. Does Anavar truly work as good as you guys say it does. I have tried so many different supplements that dont work or barely work and it is killing my wallet and my patience. Also do you think it would be safe to stack with dianobol?

[Ufa]

nba - just curious as to why you want to start aas at such a young
age?

[nba2005uk]

^^ it seems that i have hit a plateau for the last year or so. i train the right way include all the compound lifts, eat right, rest enough etc, just seems like i am not growing anymore. i also have two friends one at 18 and one at 19 who have been on steroids on and off for a few months now and they r HUGE,both benching over 140kg too. i wouldnt go this far as to using strong steroids but i just heard that var wasnt as strong as others, and i heard it was a lot safer. thanks for all your info guys, can anybody tell me what the best supplement would be to use at 18, ive heard of hyperdrol? and x-factor, have had good results without a PCT? thanks!

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

ehh those are junk.. if your gonna waste your money on that you may as well juice.. Me personally, I got horrible acne from Methyl rage but never from Test or Adrol... Try a NOS supplement like No Xplode and jump the protein up to like 200grms a day... you'll be growing then.. if you want you can shoot some B-12 aswell

[nba2005uk]

i already eat around 230-250 grams of protein per day. does anyone else think NO-Xplode is any good? i am already takin glutamine creatine protein, i just got a new job and feel like expeiriencing with some new products! thanks !

[briancb1]

If you hit a plateau already you arn't training/eating right and you will be dissapointed with the steroids results. If you think supplements are your answer you are going to get on the "I cant do it with out supplement _______" bandwagon. Thats what all the nutrition companies want you to believe.

Buy some books on bodybuilding and training just ask questions of some guys on here about how to train, you might find out you need to switch things up more often or something else.

[nba2005uk]

is their anythin wrong with this routine.. i train 5-6 days per week, repeating the cycle below.
Day 1-Chest/Triceps
Dumbell bench press 4x10
• Incline bench press 3x10
• Decline bench press 3x10
• Flat bench press 2x8
• Dumbell flys 2x12
• Skullcrushers 4x10
• Dips 3x10
• Cable pulldowns 3x12

Day 2-Back/Biceps/Traps
• Deadlifts 4x8
• Barbell rows 4x10
• Pullups 4x10
• Lat pulldown 3x10
• Ez bar Curl 4x10
• Preacher Curl 4x10
• Shrugs 4x15

Day 3-Shoulders/Legs
• Squats 4x12
• Lunges 3x12
• Leg press 3x12
• Lying hamstring curl 3x12
• Calf raises 2x15
• Dumbell shoulder press 4x10
• Side laterals 3x12
• Push press 4x8

[powerliftmike]

I am 23. Does Anavar truly work as good as you guys say it does. I have tried so many different supplements that dont work or barely work and it is killing my wallet and my patience. Also do you think it would be safe to stack with dianobol?

Im going to try a different brand, but Ive run 3 short cycles of var back in the day. Didnt like it at all. Ended up throwing a bunch out. If you run a really high dose and stack it with a heavy androgen it can help, but a really high dose var cycle isnt worth the money IMO.

[Snrf]

If you're hitting everything twice a week you're probably overtraining imo.

[Anabolios]

is their anythin wrong with this routine.. i train 5-6 days per week, repeating the cycle below.
Day 1-Chest/Triceps
Dumbell bench press 4x10
• Incline bench press 3x10
• Decline bench press 3x10
• Flat bench press 2x8
• Dumbell flys 2x12
• Skullcrushers 4x10
• Dips 3x10
• Cable pulldowns 3x12

Day 2-Back/Biceps/Traps
• Deadlifts 4x8
• Barbell rows 4x10
• Pullups 4x10
• Lat pulldown 3x10
• Ez bar Curl 4x10
• Preacher Curl 4x10
• Shrugs 4x15

Day 3-Shoulders/Legs
• Squats 4x12
• Lunges 3x12
• Leg press 3x12
• Lying hamstring curl 3x12
• Calf raises 2x15
• Dumbell shoulder press 4x10
• Side laterals 3x12
• Push press 4x8

your routine is very similar to mine..almost identical actually. i just have more rest time in between every body part gets hit every 5-7 days stay away from any steroids because of what everyone said above and the results will be very minimal on a cycle like that. i wouldnt say "take advantage of all these hormones" blah blah because to be honest an 18 year old doesnt have some wild amounts of testosterone. your body just isnt done growing and there is a lot of "potential" if you train right. remember to keep good form and dont take shortcuts in your diet and training because down the road youll end up wasting a lot more time in the long run if you dont do it properly

[MattY_D]

is their anythin wrong with this routine.. i train 5-6 days per week, repeating the cycle below.
Day 1-Chest/Triceps
Dumbell bench press 4x10
• Incline bench press 3x10
• Decline bench press 3x10
• Flat bench press 2x8
• Dumbell flys 2x12
• Skullcrushers 4x10
• Dips 3x10
• Cable pulldowns 3x12

Day 2-Back/Biceps/Traps
• Deadlifts 4x8
• Barbell rows 4x10
• Pullups 4x10
• Lat pulldown 3x10
• Ez bar Curl 4x10
• Preacher Curl 4x10
• Shrugs 4x15

Day 3-Shoulders/Legs
• Squats 4x12
• Lunges 3x12
• Leg press 3x12
• Lying hamstring curl 3x12
• Calf raises 2x15
• Dumbell shoulder press 4x10
• Side laterals 3x12
• Push press 4x8

UGLY!!!
1: your missing some key exercises
2: some of your sets for some exercises arnt enuf
3: some of those exercises you dont need
4: and if thats in order i think im gonna slap you

[Hellmaskbanned]

UGLY!!!
1: your missing some key exercises
2: some of your sets for some exercises arnt enuf
3: some of those exercises you dont need
4: and if thats in order i think im gonna slap you

[ruffcute]

atleast wait until ur 21, that way, u atleast know ul have stop growing on the inside

[GGallin]

Im going to try a different brand, but Ive run 3 short cycles of var back in the day. Didnt like it at all. Ended up throwing a bunch out. If you run a really high dose and stack it with a heavy androgen it can help, but a really high dose var cycle isnt worth the money IMO.

Well I might try it. Stack w/ dbol most likely.

[cfiler]

Way too young. Don't waste your naturally high test levels, use them.

[nba2005uk]

Matty_d, why do u think this is an ugly routine. i dont do them exercises in order, but why did u say the other 3 things wrong with my routine?

[MattY_D]

Matty_d, why do u think this is an ugly routine. i dont do them exercises in order, but why did u say the other 3 things wrong with my routine?

dude seriously take a look at it, your all over the shop

looks similar to when i first started training...i didnt know shit, i guessed everything

do some research on workout regiments and talk to a personal trainer at your gym

trust me your missing out on some serious muscle growth especially if your using AAS

[nba2005uk]

well tell me whats wrong with it then i can learn! i have made amazing gains with this the last year, of course if mixed it up a bit but my strength and size has gone up like crazy by using this sort of routine!