First "real" cycle with testosterone

[godric]

hello
i am new member from finland and think that you maybe know better about steroids than finish bodybuilders, that s the reason why i registered in here

i have done few simple oral cycles with d bol anadrol and winstrol, once with sustanon with low dosages. my intrest is get more power, not bulking

i think my next and the first "real" cycle would be like this: 9weeks

1.sustanon250mg, testosteron propionate250mg, d bol20mg/d
2.sustanon250mg, testosteron propionate300mg, d bol25mg/d
3.sustanon500mg, testosteron propionate300mg, d bol30mg/d
4.sustanon500mg, testosteron propionate250mg, d bol20mg/d
5.testosteron cypionate 250mg, testosteron propionate250mg
6.testosteron cypionate 500mg, testosteron propionate250mg
7.testosteron cypionate 500mg, testosteron propionate200mg
8.testosteron cypionate 250mg, clomifen 50-100mg/d
9.clomifen 50-100mg/d

what do you say about that? Thank you

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

i think its all ****ed to be honest.. why would u combine Sust and prop.. sust has prop in it... Sustanon is a blend of 4 esters for different release times... also i dont see why u are increasing then decreasing dbol and tests dosage...


then ur dropping some cyp in place of the sust and prop... its a long ester.. it wont even fully kick in for 4-6 weeks, where you cycle is due to end... not to be an ass but this cycle doesnt make any f**** sense to me..


try this

500MG Test Enanthate weeks 1-12


simple and will work MUCH better

[El Kelio]

hello
i am new member from finland and think that you maybe know better about steroids than finish bodybuilders, that s the reason why i registered in here

i have done few simple oral cycles with d bol anadrol and winstrol, once with sustanon with low dosages. my intrest is get more power, not bulking

i think my next and the first "real" cycle would be like this: 9weeks

1.sustanon250mg, testosteron propionate250mg, d bol20mg/d
2.sustanon250mg, testosteron propionate300mg, d bol25mg/d
3.sustanon500mg, testosteron propionate300mg, d bol30mg/d
4.sustanon500mg, testosteron propionate250mg, d bol20mg/d
5.testosteron cypionate 250mg, testosteron propionate250mg
6.testosteron cypionate 500mg, testosteron propionate250mg
7.testosteron cypionate 500mg, testosteron propionate200mg
8.testosteron cypionate 250mg, clomifen 50-100mg/d
9.clomifen 50-100mg/d

what do you say about that? Thank you

Decrease the Test if you don't want to bulk. ( 250 mgs per week ).
Horrible PCT. My suggestion :
Tamoxifen 40/40/20/20/20/10 beggining week 10
HCG just in case your testicles shrink

[godric]

my sample cycle is made by very experienced coach, but i also wonder why he always tell do to "increase and decrease" the dosages... i mean clomiphene citrate.

thanks for answers

[SVTMuscle*]

my sample cycle is made by very experienced coach, but i also wonder why he always tell do to "increase and decrease" the dosages... i mean clomiphene citrate.

thanks for answers

Your coach dosnt know what he is talking about unfortunately, you were smart comming to this board.
Like IIIIIIIIIIIII said, keep it simple and easy the first cycle

Test E- 500mg/wk 1-12
D-Bol- 40mg/ED 1-4

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

ohh yeah forgot about the dbol..... SHIT!!!!

So ya! What SVT said!

[RobbieG]

hello
i am new member from finland and think that you maybe know better about steroids than finish bodybuilders, that s the reason why i registered in here

i have done few simple oral cycles with d bol anadrol and winstrol, once with sustanon with low dosages. my intrest is get more power, not bulking

i think my next and the first "real" cycle would be like this: 9weeks

1.sustanon250mg, testosteron propionate250mg, d bol20mg/d
2.sustanon250mg, testosteron propionate300mg, d bol25mg/d
3.sustanon500mg, testosteron propionate300mg, d bol30mg/d
4.sustanon500mg, testosteron propionate250mg, d bol20mg/d
5.testosteron cypionate 250mg, testosteron propionate250mg
6.testosteron cypionate 500mg, testosteron propionate250mg
7.testosteron cypionate 500mg, testosteron propionate200mg
8.testosteron cypionate 250mg, clomifen 50-100mg/d
9.clomifen 50-100mg/d

what do you say about that? Thank you

DO NOT DO THIS

[SVTMuscle*]

ohh yeah forgot about the dbol..... SHIT!!!!

So ya! What SVT said!

i love how you made your own sig haha

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do


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[godric]

12 weeks is too long cycle for me, because i m under doping control. even 8weeks cycle with sust, cyp or enth is big risk.

how about this: 1-8 sust250mg every 4day,1-8 prop100mg eod, 1-4 d bol 25mg eod

[RobbieG]

12 weeks is too long cycle for me, because i m under doping control. even 8weeks cycle with sust, cyp or enth is big risk.

how about this: 1-8 sust250mg every 4day,1-8 prop100mg eod, 1-4 d bol 25mg eod

Sust contains 4 esters. 3 long.

cyph is a long ester
enanth is a long ester.

Listen:
If you think that stopping enanth, cyph or sust on week number 8 is enough for a drug test on 9th week you are wrong.

These esters will be in your system atleast 10 days, unless you use steroid-cleanser (trademark).

IMO! :

if you want to do a short cycle:

1-6 week: Test Prop, 70 mg ED
1-6 week: anavar/anadrol/dianabol
2-9 week: Aromasin 20-25 mg ED.

6-9 week: Nolvadex 20 mg ED.

Marcus might want to say a few word on shorter cycles, but basicly:

1. you should do Test Prop.
2. Do not use sustanon for the sake of drugtest.
3. Do not change the dosage of test, don´t ramp it up or down, it´s worthless.
4. If your coach want´s to learn more about AAS, I do believe he is welcome here.

[godric]

robbie g: i knew that E Cyp and sust can cause positive doping test at 1-2months after last shot.

thanks for advices!