Hey all..I have been using bsn's no-explode along with bsn's cellmass, and I don't think I want to spend the money on their products if I can find other brands that make the same stuff.....does anyone know of a product that does the same as no-explode for pumps, and cellmass cee for strength that is cheaper? I heard the vpx no-shotgun is good but havent checked out the price of it yet. any suggestions? Its almost time to re-up my suppliment supply....