1st Cycle what do you think

[hddp]

I have been reading and reading and reading trying to learn as much as possible. I am going to try my first cycle. Not sure on dosages yet. I am 34, 6'1 190lbs and 11% bodyfat.
I was told that I should not worry about an estrogen blocker until I see if I need it. From reading on here, I think I will probably go with one.

Deca and Winny. (Not positive on dosage, still reading up on recommendation for newbie).
Planning on the Nolva and Clomid from AR-R.
What estrogen blocker? Preferrably from AR-R.

Also, my guy says that I should wait on Test to see how my body reacts to the Deca and Winny. Any recommendations on that?

I appreciate any feedback.

[Logan13]

I have been reading and reading and reading trying to learn as much as possible. I am going to try my first cycle. Not sure on dosages yet. I am 34, 6'1 190lbs and 11% bodyfat.
I was told that I should not worry about an estrogen blocker until I see if I need it. From reading on here, I think I will probably go with one.

Deca and Winny. (Not positive on dosage, still reading up on recommendation for newbie).
Planning on the Nolva and Clomid from AR-R.
What estrogen blocker? Preferrably from AR-R.

Also, my guy says that I should wait on Test to see how my body reacts to the Deca and Winny. Any recommendations on that?

I appreciate any feedback.

BAD cycle. Winny and Deca without test? Do more research........

[hddp]

Anyone have some feedback with helpful information?

[theboss]

Anyone have some feedback with helpful information?

read more...alot more....got to the profiles on these ones....bad bad choices

try 500mg of test E a week....

[G-1000]

Anyone have some feedback with helpful information?

both compounds are very harsh for a first cycle.

You will also risk the loss of you labedo.

[FranKieC]

Anyone have some feedback with helpful information?

His information was more than helpful..You need to educate yourself more before even thinking about running anything..I am not saying that to be a D i c K as I did the same thing when i was younger. Take all that this board has to offer and run with it

[hddp]

His information was more than helpful..You need to educate yourself more before even thinking about running anything..I am not saying that to be a D i c K as I did the same thing when i was younger. Take all that this board has to offer and run with it

Thanks. So many of you are extremely educated on this, so I know everyone was new at some point. I will take your advise and keep researching and reading.

Thanks again.

[GV315]

I would go with test alone on the first cycle. 10 weeks at 400 to 500 mg/week

[MAXIMA5]

Your friend told you backwards.
You should see how you react to test, before you add deca or winny.

What are your goals? DO you want to pack on muscle, or sculpt your body by adding quality lean mass?

A general rule of thumb:
Deca is for mass - and should only be used with a test base
Winny is more of a hardness/quality muscle drug - not generally used for mass

If you want the best of both worlds, run a long-ester test with maybe some anavar or Tbol.

We can help you more if you lay out your goals in black and white.