My 1st Cycle

[MRRoboto]

wk 1-10 TestCyp 500mg each week (250x2)
wk 1-5 Dbol 40mgED (2x20)
wk 1-12 Aromasin 20mgED
wk 1-12 Nolva 20mgED
wk 4-12 HCG 500iu/week
PCT wk 13-15 Proviron 25mgED
PCT wk 13-15 Nolva 20mg ED
PCT wk 13-15 Aromasin 20mg ED
PCT wk 13-15 HCG 250iu-500iu ED
PCT wk 13-15 Vitamin E 1,000iu ED

I would love some feedback on this one. Anything I missed?

[skipp]

Why are you taking aromasin and nolva? I would just keep nolva on hand and aromasin for pct.

And start your pct 2 weeks after your last shot, not 1. And I'd be careful running HCG for 11weeks, that might mess with your leydigs.

[MRRoboto]

Look closer, my PCT begins on week 13 and my Test ends on week 10.
Swifto uses HCG all the way through and never gets shrinkage. I would love to hear from him on this cycle. Anyone else use Vitamin E? I just put it there because was recomended to me by one of the other guys to help the HCG do its job. Truth is I'm still gonna look into it some more.

[skipp]

HCG is great, and I definitely recommend it. But not for 11 weeks. I use it for the 2 weeks between my last test shot and pct, my boys we're @ 110% of their normal size. I did 500IU eod.

And I still don't think you need an AI or a SERM on cycle, unless you KNOW you're gyno prone. If not, just keep it on hand and at the slightest thought of nip soreness start taking one. I say this because lowering estro WILL slow gains, how much is dependent.

[poloblue]

your first cycle should be the best. therefore i would add in deca aswell, and have extra dbol just incase you did want to up the dosage.

my first cycle was test cyp and tbol and wasnt very impress with it. the whole time i kept wishing i had added deca to it.. i did read here before doing it and followed everybodys advice on test only for the first. only put on ten pounds that time.

im on week 4 of dbol at 75mg ed, test e and deca. im up 12 lbs already with barley no bloat at all. this is winter so its ok to bulk up now plus at your height with test cyp only you might not see that much of a differnce.. so if i was you i would add in the deca.. all that saying to do test only for your first cycle to see how you will react is way over rated in my opion. its not that much difference. make your first the best and dont half step..

[GHO5T]

your first cycle should be the best. therefore i would add in deca aswell, and have extra dbol just incase you did want to up the dosage.

my first cycle was test cyp and tbol and wasnt very impress with it. the whole time i kept wishing i had added deca to it.. i did read here before doing it and followed everybodys advice on test only for the first. only put on ten pounds that time.

im on week 4 of dbol at 75mg ed, test e and deca. im up 12 lbs already with barley no bloat at all. this is winter so its ok to bulk up now plus at your height with test cyp only you might not see that much of a differnce.. so if i was you i would add in the deca.. all that saying to do test only for your first cycle to see how you will react is way over rated in my opion. its not that much difference. make your first the best and dont half step..

definetly have to disagree with you bro, IMO your first cycle should consist of test e or c(longer ester preferred) no reason to add deca and dbol for a first cycle because the body will already be in shock from the excessive testosterone and if diet is spot on you will create a very anabolic environment which in turn give you great results just from test e alone

IMO the reason you didnt see the gains you wanted from your first cycle poloblue is 1 diet was off(sloppy) 2 gear you had was underdosed or 3 your training was off

[BOOST]

Dam Bro seems like overkill to me. Keep your first simple to see how your body responds.

1-10 500mg/week of Test E or Cyp
12-14 150mg/day clomid
15-16 50mg/day clomid
12-16 40mg/day nolvadex

[jf18t]

Ya i agree with skipp the hcg should be started the last week of your cycle and continued for 3-4 more week at 1500-3000 iu per 5-6 days......good luck

[MRRoboto]

Poloblue sounds a lot like me. I've been wondering if I should add deca. As for the HCG, I just can't stand to see my boys lose any size. Does it happen to everyone? Anyone ever had any bad sides from using HCG that long? I have tons of dbol mabey 60 a day, 20mg every 8 hours?

[Triple X]

your first cycle should be the best. therefore i would add in deca aswell, and have extra dbol just incase you did want to up the dosage.

im on week 4 of dbol at 75mg ed<-------RETARD , test e and deca. im up 12 lbs already with barley no bloat at all. this is winter so its ok to bulk up now plus at your height with test cyp only you might not see that much of a differnce.. so if i was you i would add in the deca.. all that saying to do test only for your first cycle to see how you will react is way over rated in my opion. its not that much difference. make your first the best and dont half step..

75mg is way, WAY too much. Never heard of anyone taking that much. Just plain stuuuuuuuuuupid

[skipp]

75mg is way, WAY too much. Never heard of anyone taking that much. Just plain stuuuuuuuuuupid

I've seen someone take 150/day for a kickstart (4 weeks), not everyone believes that less is more.


You'll grow like a weed on test only, no reason to add anything else.

[Getbig06]

75mg is way, WAY too much. Never heard of anyone taking that much. Just plain stuuuuuuuuuupid

"It´ll raise your blood pressure (4) and is also hepatoxic (Liver-Toxic), so be careful with it. Although I have known people to take up to 100mgs/day of this stuff and not suffer any ill-effects, and one study looked at that exact dose, and the people involved didn´t suffer any intolerable side effects." Read the profile Anthony Roberts wrote on Dbol. 75 mg in my opinion is a bit high but nothing to crazy, he just needs to make sure to get his blood work done after the cycle.

[poloblue]

75mg is way, WAY too much. Never heard of anyone taking that much. Just plain stuuuuuuuuuupid

seems like you are just parrotting what other people are saying on this board.. 75mg ed is not waaaayyyyy to much. its not norm but its not stupid.. lots of people do 100mg ed. but would not recommend more than 50mg ed for a first time cycle

[Mista Massive]

ppl are inclined to believe that 150mg of anadrol is ok while anything over 60mg of dianabol is stupid.

do some research, you'll find that dianabol has much better effects and is actually less hepatoxic. it's just that no one does like 150mg of Dbol cos they think it's not as good. my research suggests otherwise.

[Triple X]

seems like you are just parrotting what other people are saying on this board.. 75mg ed is not waaaayyyyy to much. its not norm but its not stupid.. lots of people do 100mg ed. but would not recommend more than 50mg ed for a first time cycle

I am! SQUAAAAACK SQUAAAAACK......now..........

If you know so much why did you post the friggin question then? Go ahead and take it. Hope you enjoy the massive headaches you're gonna get, oh well.


oh, and

[MRRoboto]

Well, I sure could use some more input on the HCG topic cause I like my nuts the way they are.

[James444]

Good god, would you just listen to these guys. thats why your here right?cause you dont know about how much to take of the: MOST TOXIC w/THE MOST UNWANTED SIDE EFFECTECTS HAVING ROID(anadrol). i wound not tell wy worst ememy to take that much

[skipp]

Well, I sure could use some more input on the HCG topic cause I like my nuts the way they are.

I understand you don't wanna lose your boys, but would you rather have them full size your whole cycle and come off and have extra low test levels (lower than norm on pct) and take a chance of becoming infertile? Leydig desensitization will cause this.

Not everyone even experiences testicular atrophy, IMO you could prob run it on weeks 6-8 and again on the 2 weeks between your last shot and pct.

[Johny-too-small]

TRIPLE X = AR's biggest asshole.


Every f*cking post, youre a complete prick to someone. Im sure you'll have some sweet things to say to me now just to prove my point.

[cfiler]

Dam Bro seems like overkill to me. Keep your first simple to see how your body responds.

1-10 500mg/week of Test E or Cyp
12-14 150mg/day clomid
15-16 50mg/day clomid
12-16 40mg/day nolvadex

Much better cycle. I'd save the dbol for your next cycle.

[MRRoboto]

I understand you don't wanna lose your boys, but would you rather have them full size your whole cycle and come off and have extra low test levels (lower than norm on pct) and take a chance of becoming infertile? Leydig desensitization will cause this.

Not everyone even experiences testicular atrophy, IMO you could prob run it on weeks 6-8 and again on the 2 weeks between your last shot and pct.

Yeah good point. I might actually want kids someday. Maybe I'll just keep it handy for now.