Can you run Testosterone Prop. and Sustanon together for an entire cycle?
If so how much of each, or would it be a waste?
Can you run Testosterone Prop. and Sustanon together for an entire cycle?
If so how much of each, or would it be a waste?
Yes im running both now and its amazing, but first we need to know your stats and cycle experience..Originally Posted by darkzide
And by the way sus has prop in it...Originally Posted by darkzide
No problem Im 19 and I have done 3 cycles.
So far:
1-4 100mgs Test Prop. eod
1-3 Dbol 25mgs
4-12 Sustanon 250 (500mgs every 5 days)
3-12 Masteron 100mgs eod
4-12 20 mgs winny
Currently 208 & 6'0 about 7% BF and eat more than you would belive and NCAA football player.
It's that I have 2 10ml vials of Test prop. left over from the beggining of the cycle, should I continue to use it or save it to kickstart another cycle? And if I should continue to use how much should I use to get sum serious bulk?
19 ??? Well i think you know that your to young to have ran any cycles, no less 3..Originally Posted by darkzide
Yeh I know but could you help with the dosage of the sust/ test prop.?
Let me do a quick check on the rules to make sure 19 is ok, i think its under 18...Originally Posted by darkzide
Its under 18
Thanks bro, i cant find it anywhere...Originally Posted by darkzide
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So um could ya help me now?
Im gonna tell you that sus should be done EOD, imo, im running sus eod, along with the shot of sus ( 250 mgs ) i add 50 mgs of prop this will give you 80 mgs of prop eod, now on the days i dont do the sus i do 80 mgs of prop, so now you will be running 80 mgs of prop ed.. Now this means ed shots, depending on how long you run your cycle, you could run the prop through out the whole cycle up to pct , or you could run it for the first 4 weeks.. Im running it through out the whole cycle stopping the sus after 10 weeks, and then running the prop right up to pct, witch would be week 13.... Im 6 weeks in and f'n blowing up, now this is what im doing by no means am i telling you to do this, this is my opnion, and my opnion only..Originally Posted by darkzide
Bro,19 ..3 cycles what are your stats??
You could also run the prop the first and last 4 weeks..
Bench 350
Sqaut 515
Clean 275
40 ys dash 4.4
Height 6'0
Weight 208
He posted them above..Originally Posted by Bigmax
Stuball I have 16 amps left so an amp eod would be ideal? And I could hit up the prop on the days im not using sust? Sounds good, but the time I would be usin sust would be like 6 weeks is that legit or should I stretch it to 10/12 weeks? Granted I started using the test. prop since nov 10 making it a 12 cycle in the end.
Its more like a month, but to keep blood levels stable on the days your not doing the sus run 30 mgs of prop. But IMO thats just a waste of gear, the best thing to do is wait till you have all your gear and do it correctly... And do you have your PCT set up ??? This is all very important. Dont rush things this is your body were talkin about....Originally Posted by darkzide
Isnt a month of sust short? I have pct set up Ive done some cyles before and kept the majority of the gains
Oh you started the prop already, now you want to and the sus ?? Well the deca in the sus is a long ester so i dont know how long its gonna take to kick in.. How much prop are you using now and how often ???Originally Posted by darkzide
400mgs /week about 100mgs eod
When i said a month i ment thats all the sus you have for EOD shots..Originally Posted by darkzide
Theres no nandrolone in sustanon!
Yeh 16 amps at eod is about 1 month but is that too short or will it get the job done
Well all the other esters are short in the sus to, 3 to 4 days, it's not gonna hurt but it would have been better to start both at the same time.. So correct me if im wrong right now you doing EOD of prop at 100mgs ???Originally Posted by darkzide
Yes and today was my second shot of sust
@ 500mgs. and still have 16 amps of sust left
Others: 2 vials of masteron, 100 tabs of 10mg winny, pct set aside
Just want to be done with pct before february b/c possibilility of NCAA drug test.
p.s thanx for the help
That 16 amps of sust and 2 10ml vials of test prop
Thats what you have left ???Originally Posted by darkzide
What I have left:
2 10 ml vials of test prop
16 amps of sust
1.5 vials of masteron
100 tabs of winny
what would you do with that being that you have done 4 weeks of 100mgs eod of prop?
Last edited by darkzide; 12-08-2006 at 07:36 PM.
Do you plan on useing the Masteron & winny ??Originally Posted by darkzide
Yes i do
When do you plan to incorperate that into you cycle ???Originally Posted by darkzide
Now, my question is what would you do personally with all those if you are on week 5 after 4 weeks of 100mgs of prop eod?
Mmmm, i dont want to suggest anything that might not be right being that i never used winny or masteron, i know it is usally used to dry out, i have done research on it but it woudnt be right to tell you how to incorperate it into the rest of you cycle without having any experience with it... You can do some research on it.. but in the future make sure you have all your gear together ( enough for your cycle ) So as of right now your gonna do eod shot of sus and eod shot of prop for the rest of the cycle ??Originally Posted by darkzide
Exactly but that would last 1 month thats hella short man right?
Yeah but there is nothing wrong with an 8 week cycle, you should see very good gains, i just wish you started the sus along with the prop, if you cut back to 75 mgs of the prop and added 50 mgs of prop to the sus you would be running 525 mgs of prop a week and keeping everything stable.. I would personally have no problem running a prop only cycle.. Im guessing you cant get a hold of anymore gear ??? So in the future have every thing lined up before you start..Originally Posted by darkzide
So how much prop per week and how much sust per week in the end?
If you could only get one more vial of prop that would be great, but Do eod sus and add 45 mgs of prop to that than on the days you dont do the sus do 75 mgs of prop that would be just about 20 mgs of prop that means you should finish thr sus and prop at the same time...Originally Posted by darkzide
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