Cycle Critique

[rhino1]

Test C 600mg/wk
Tren e 400mg/wk
Dianadrol TP 1cc/day(Dbol 25mg/cc;Anadrol 25mg/cc;Test p 50mg/cc) x 6 wks

Standard Nolva 20mg/day and Arimidex 1cc/day (until Dianadrol complete)

Weeks 8, 12, 14, 16 HCG 5000 iu/wk
Nolva 20mg/day x 3 wks

Any adjustments?

This is the 2nd cycle

1st was
Test e 500mg/wk x 14wks
Deca 400mg/wk x 14wks
Anadrol 100mg/day x 4wks

Hcg 2000iu eod x 2 wks
Nolva 20mg/day x 3 wks

[rhino1]

Bump.....anyone care or can help??

[guest589745]

Dianadrolsterone propionate, lol me rikey.

Looks fine.

[SMAN12b]

I would NOT recommend Tren E for a second cycle. Tren is known for harsh sides and not for the beginners. If you must use tren, go with tren A so if you get terrible sides, you can stop and its out of your system much faster then Tren E

[rhino1]

What kind of sides shoud I expect??? I want to achieve my goals and this is probably my last cycle.

[KAEW44]

Why not using clomid also in the PCT??

I know many who do just HCG and Nolva and are fine afterwards, but the science part of the recovery stresses that clomid is necessary for you to actually start fully producing naturally and normally.

[rhino1]

Not using clomid because I feel it isn't necessary....I've personally spoken to an endocrenologist and he feels nolva, hcg, and something else like letro or armidex is better. Besides clomid makes you feel like a sissy imo.

That doctor said scientifically for re juvinating "the boys" the clomids side effects do not outway the results. He said HCG and nolva are the safest and most effective method to re instil normal testicular function.

[KAEW44]

Not using clomid because I feel it isn't necessary....I've personally spoken to an endocrenologist and he feels nolva, hcg, and something else like letro or armidex is better. Besides clomid makes you feel like a sissy imo.

That doctor said scientifically for re juvinating "the boys" the clomids side effects do not outway the results. He said HCG and nolva are the safest and most effective method to re instil normal testicular function.

I'm not disagreeing with you, i just remember a past thread long time ago in which one of the super-saijan members gave a detailed explanation about how HCG produces a "fake" type signal to the testes which makes them shoot back out but it doesnt signal them to start naturally producing testosterone! I am pretty sure that was it, clomid was the only thing that can force-start the natural production. Therefore using both HCG and Clomid together will be the optimal effect when it comes to recovery.

However like i said i know many people who have cycled several times and did PCT iwth HCG only! And they are fully functional down there and having kids recently without a problem so their boys can swim still!! I must add that these same people have excellent genetics and still have a thick head of hair and no side effects (acne/bodyhair/gyno) even after doing more than 10 cycles always including Dbol/Winstrol/Deca/Sust/EQ!! So i always thought maybe they were the gifted quadrant of the genetic pool and thats how they got away with it! On the other hand i know guys who did only one cycle and have been impotent/bald/gyno and even lost all the gains since! Can you say cycle from hell??

[guest589745]

Clomid and nolva is good but with HCG is better. Its all you need IMO.