Poll: Vials Or Syringes For Sachet Gear?

[frank12391]

What do you think is the easiest and safest way to store your sachet gear? In a syringe or in a vial?, Give us your reasons.

[beuleux]

I dont use sachet gear but if I did Id prefer a vial for these reasons..

1. Vials are easier to store and hide
2. syringe tip is exposed while changing pins bacteria could grow while storing
3. drawing from a vial makes you feel like a doctor and panders to my fantasies
4. this bloke at works second cousin once removed on his wifes side said vials are better

[frank12391]

Syringe tip is exposed while changing pins??

What to air? Do you know how much air goes into a vial?

[beuleux]

Yes I mean air, if its put in storage any spores or micobes in the air could possibly multiply and there will be no BB on the tip of the syringe to deal with it, I know there is air in the syringe you inject with but for a very short time and I know there is air in the vial but there is also BB in the vial which will kill the baddies, it may seem like an insignificant minor detail but thats what I'd do and for those reasons. Im not proposing to pass a law or anything JMO.

[frank12391]

your rite, it's a minor detail but, if you swab the tip of the syringe and not have an extra vessel that the gear is exposed too then it would be safer, wouldn't it?. There is BA in the gear and the syringe is sterilzed with radiation. If your worried about microbes on the tip of a syringe then what about the stoma inside the rubber stopper on a vile? You can't swab that and how do you get BB in there? Multi use vials can be penetrated more than once in the same path, risking the possiblity of cross contamination, thats why only drugs that contain Ba or BB can be stored in Multi vials, the rest in ampuls.

[frank12391]

bump for more opinions

[beuleux]

LOL Im a real germaphope when I inject I practaly disinfect the entire room first (slight exaggeration). Thats just me I would put it in syringes if I had to travel anywhere with it but I try to plan around it.

[2bshredded]

I recentely tranferred my gear from a sach to a sterile vial, you can hold it up to the light and see very small particles floating as well as what I think is part of the sach pack.
I think I'm done with sachets.....too much hassle and risk.

[frank12391]

Oh dear, I never saw floaties. If I did I would ditch it too and ask the supplier for a "please explain" Thats sad, I'v never had a problem, never had abcesses or anything. the only people that I'v heared got abcesses forgot to swab the sachets before drawing.

[G-1000]

This is easy. Get your self a large syringe 60cc. Draw out oll the oil out of each one into the large syringe. The just filter into new steril vials and add. .5 cc of ba for ever 60cc oil.

[frank12391]

With the filter, can you run it straight into the vial or are we gonna need 2 60 ml syringes with a filter before we jab the vial?

[G-1000]

you No just use the one large syringe.
Draw out of each one with the same syringe.
Then just put the filter on that syringe and inject into the new vials.
You need to swab the tops of each vial and sach.

[frank12391]

settled. I'll go with that. Thanx

[evil pepsi]

your rite, it's a minor detail but, if you swab the tip of the syringe and not have an extra vessel that the gear is exposed too then it would be safer, wouldn't it?. There is BA in the gear and the syringe is sterilzed with radiation. If your worried about microbes on the tip of a syringe then what about the stoma inside the rubber stopper on a vile? You can't swab that and how do you get BB in there? Multi use vials can be penetrated more than once in the same path, risking the possiblity of cross contamination, thats why only drugs that contain Ba or BB can be stored in Multi vials, the rest in ampuls.

swab the tip of the syringe????????

[frank12391]

Yes, obviously you haven't seen a canular get swabbed before the flush and drug admin and thats in your vein!! No rubber there, just an opening straight in your vein with a screw cap. Each time you penetrate a rubber stopper you are creating small openings and after multi uses it is possible to penetrate the same stoma twice where you can't swab and where bacteria can breed so they put BA in the mix. Drugs that don't have BA are stored in single use apules. No rubber there just an opening once you have cracked it open. The next correct step is to swab the top of that opening incase you touched it and tiny glass fragments. That is the reason why canulars don't have a rubber stopper. You remove the cap on the canular and swab it, then flush then administer, flush then swab and replace cap. Drawing from a syringe is more aseptic than than drawing blood. Syringe tips remain sealed with a new sterile pin and cap. Your skin has microbes on it. Swabing syringe tips and replacing pins is just as aseptic as the canular and cap.

[vermin]

This is easy. Get your self a large syringe 60cc. Draw out oll the oil out of each one into the large syringe. The just filter into new steril vials and add. .5 cc of ba for ever 60cc oil.

Have you ever done this? For me, I get better and more efficient collection if I do multiple draws, after emptying the syringe (via the filter) so nothing more than a 5cc (which really goes to 6) has ever been required. I have never pulled more than 4cc, and usually about 3, per draw (though I end up with 5.5+ per sachet).

[G-1000]

I have done it. You can use a smaller one like a 10cc.

[frank12391]

I use 10ml syringes to draw

[evil pepsi]

Yes, obviously you haven't seen a canular get swabbed before the flush and drug admin and thats in your vein!! No rubber there, just an opening straight in your vein with a screw cap. Each time you penetrate a rubber stopper you are creating small openings and after multi uses it is possible to penetrate the same stoma twice where you can't swab and where bacteria can breed so they put BA in the mix. Drugs that don't have BA are stored in single use apules. No rubber there just an opening once you have cracked it open. The next correct step is to swab the top of that opening incase you touched it and tiny glass fragments. That is the reason why canulars don't have a rubber stopper. You remove the cap on the canular and swab it, then flush then administer, flush then swab and replace cap. Drawing from a syringe is more aseptic than than drawing blood. Syringe tips remain sealed with a new sterile pin and cap. Your skin has microbes on it. Swabing syringe tips and replacing pins is just as aseptic as the canular and cap.

never seen a canular get swabbed, but i have seen a CANNULA inserted. wtf is a canular?

[Hephens]

Gee, I am probably asking for a infection i get the sachets, poor them into a cap very clean i make shor i am doing it in a clean place etc. But my gear is exposed to air than i suck it all up with my syringes and put them away and use them over the comeing weeks thats what i did but i never got a infection from doing that, i pray not to get one. Thats the easiest way to do it i feel. i cant get vials etc anwyays.

[frank12391]

Just wash em and swab em and punch a hole in the sachet with the pin and draw. Pooring the oil in a container is not a good idea. Be Careful. Or you can run some alcohol over a pair of scissors and cut the corner. Just a suggestion.