I don't see anyone reasoning to run test in a cycle just because your body stops producing test, is this where the logic comes from, if i can handle no test in my body for 8 weeks whats the harm ?
I don't see anyone reasoning to run test in a cycle just because your body stops producing test, is this where the logic comes from, if i can handle no test in my body for 8 weeks whats the harm ?
Alot of times its libido issues bro...if you can handle your girl playing with your noodle and having it stay just like that a wetnoodle then you dont need test...now thats not everyone...some people can take anything and not have that problem...me included...
test is the basis of all cycles. LOOK IT UP!!!
Odix Test Is One Of The Best Steroids.....,why Wouldnt You Want To Take Test............ Great Question
Depends on the cycle, and your goal.
Not all cycles require test.
Personally though, I LOVE test. So for me, I wouldn't plan a cycle without some sort of test ester in it.
every cycle needs test
the funny thing is, i read and read that, but if mostly any steroid shuts down your hpta, and injecting artificial test has nothing to do with keeping anything but your libido(right? theres no other beneficiaries to this other then building muscle, it doesnt help get your hpta functioning again if you do inject it while your on when your cycle is over.) I love controversy as seen by last posts, and im sure this a controversial issue talked about and talked about. I like test too, but i can get away with a var,eq,masteron cycle and no test, so im going to do it. It's all personal taste once you know the basics ladies.
send your girl to my house for the 8 weeks![]()
alright ill send my man over there, im gay.
hes on his way and ready for action
ha ha...that was a joke..lol..no one responded. J/P bro sorry if i scared ya. been with my chic for 4 years but it always gets up, test or none.
C'mon,Originally Posted by mkrulic
that does not answer anything. I am curious also. I have done Eq/winny cycles without problems. I really don't believe that test is a must in every cycle. Where did this theory come from? Many people in this forum state "test is the base" or "every cycle needs test" without even knowing what they are talking about.
I agree that test must be run with heavily supressing drugs like nandrolone or trenbolone, other than that i think its a matter of option by the user.
I have done cycles with, and without test. They both work, but gains are going to be better when you have some sort of testosterone in their, and you will have more energy to fuel your workouts also.
General dispostion, libido, harder time coming off... why deprive your system of what made you a man to being with? Hormones are powerful little messenagers - not just muscle builders - shutting your system's androgen prodcution down in exchange for a deriative is, overall, not very wise... there are still many unknown effects of testosterone - we haven't discovered everything. Give your body at least a replacement dose...
To me, this is kin to replacing my thumb with a wooden stub; sure the stub works, has other handy benefits, and I am able to still function - but I miss my thumb damn it!![]()
its just one of the best for power and mass
every cycle needs testOriginally Posted by hugovsilva
.. just reading this.. I guess you have to ask the question "why take a gram of test?"
Originally Posted by odix
I could tell by your responses![]()
j/k bro
;p mkrulic back that up, dont just say every cycle needs test. if test is so important to your body, so is estrogen, for many many reasons, and we suppress that don't we? i personally love test, even though it burns fat, ill be safe to leave it out of my cutters.
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Suppress it, yes. Nuke it out of existance, no.Originally Posted by odix
Estrogen is not the bastard child that it is frequently pimped as... it has beneficial properties while on a cycle... it can help protect you from the increased cardiovascular disease risk factors from adminsitering high levels of AAS.
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