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    Can Clen really **** up your heart?

    I was reading that clenbuteral can harden the outer layers of your heart?, and can cause serious heart conditions?.. which is messed up because my heart beat has been louder and harder ever sense ive taking a bottle of clen!
    has anyone experienced this?

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    I only notice my heartbeat the most while taking clen and doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicepig
    I was reading that clenbuteral can harden the outer layers of your heart?, and can cause serious heart conditions?.. which is messed up because my heart beat has been louder and harder ever sense ive taking a bottle of clen!
    has anyone experienced this?

    That happens because clen raises metabolism so it is normal for you to feel a stronger/ faster heartbeat.
    It is thought that clen may cause heart cell death, because in lab studies with animals some developed this heart condition while taking clen, but this happened with ridiculously high dosages, at normal dosages it has not been proven, altough it has not been demonstrated that it is safe at these same dosages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicepig
    I was reading that clenbuteral can harden the outer layers of your heart?, and can cause serious heart conditions?.. which is messed up because my heart beat has been louder and harder ever sense ive taking a bottle of clen!
    has anyone experienced this?
    Clen is a very potent sympathomimetic (causes sypathetic nervous response) with an affinity for beta2 (respiratory) receptors. Very similar to Albuterol in the fact that any dose outside the therapeutic range may cause a beta1 (cardiac) reaction, such as increased rate and force of contractions. As we know, any muscle that is forced to work harder will adapt by growing. Long term use above the therapeutic range can cause an enlarged heart, but I have never read any cases of tissue hardening.

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    I havent read that but it sounds possible. Although i have noticed that Clen does cause heart murmurs, but if i have a good cardio routine i dont get them.

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    so it's safe under the conditions and dosages we use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuad
    so it's safe under the conditions and dosages we use?
    Everyone reacts to clen differently, so i guess it depends on your tolerance level, health problems and your over all physical shape. All i can say is that i feel my sides are mild for the reults i achieve while using clen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicepig
    I was reading that clenbuteral can harden the outer layers of your heart?, and can cause serious heart conditions?.. which is messed up because my heart beat has been louder and harder ever sense ive taking a bottle of clen!
    has anyone experienced this?
    Laboratory tests showed that rats who used Clenbuterol for an extended period of time developed tissue necrosis in the heart, as well as a build-up of thick, scar tissue-like material which disrupted the regularity of the beat.

    There is a reason the FDA has made Clenbuterol illegal and its potential for misuse as a thermogenic metabolism enhancer is high. If you're going to try Clenbuterol (I've used it regularly for months now, so I'm speaking from experience and more than a few trips to the doctor), take it in very short cycles and in graduating doses.

    For example, using 20mcg pills:

    WEEK 1
    Monday - 20mcg
    Tuesday - 20mcg / 20 mcg
    Wednesday - 40mcg / 20mcg
    Thursday - 40mcg / 40mcg
    Friday - 40/mcg / 40mcg
    Saturday - 40mcg / 40mcg
    Sunday - 40mcg / 40 mcg

    WEEK 2
    Monday - 40mcg / 40 mcg
    Tuesday - 40mcg / 40 mcg
    Wednesday - 40mcg / 40mcg
    Thursday - 40mcg / 40mcg
    Friday - 40mcg / 20mcg
    Saturday - 20 mcg / 20 mcg
    Sunday - 20 mcg

    WEEKS 3 & 4 off, repeat for WEEKS 5 & 6, etc.

    Using this method, you can avoid two things: over-usage and dependency, which can develop on this drug. I noticed that during my first cycle, once I went off, the weight gain was immense, which included a lot of bloating (5 lbs in the first week). This was after a 6 week cycle of 60mcg / day, which is actually by most standards considered to be a mild dosage.

    Try this method for a few months and report back with your findings.
    Last edited by DecimaMAS; 02-15-2007 at 10:29 PM.

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    DecimaMAS..... very helpful thanx

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    It ihas been 3 years since this thread has been created...

    Does anyone get more news about clenbuterol and scar tissues ?

    or does science bring more information about this issue ?

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    It is interesting to see what dosages people are recommending. I had others recommending starting at 60mg going up to 140mg a day in only about 7 days and tapering back down to 60mg. The problem is not many people respond to Clen threads for some reason...I put one up and only got 2 or 3 posts. Maybe Primobolon might be a better choice?

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    I dunno

    For my part I Lost 30 Lbs of fat without anything ( just cardio and low carb diet) but When I will get closer to my limits, I will use an ECA stack or clenbuterol.

    That being said, I am more inclined to use clenbuterol because ECA is very rare in my country....

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